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r6-rider
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Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 12:02 am |
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army national guard. i enlisted at 17, would you care to know what day i signed the paper?
but really though i am just a kid who wants to be in the army, national guard isnt cutting it for me i just went this route so i can go to school and have promotion points later when i join the regular army.
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Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 01:34 am |
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r6-rider wrote: army national guard. i enlisted at 17, would you care to know what day i signed the paper?
but really though i am just a kid who wants to be in the army, national guard isnt cutting it for me i just went this route so i can go to school and have promotion points later when i join the regular army.
Thank you r6,
It sounds like you have started down a good path.
I quite frankly didn't want to ask the question but simply had to do so. I hope you can understand.
For what it's worth, I now accept that you are a US Service man.
Thank you for your service.
When the time comes keep your head and butt down and eyes open.
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Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 01:48 am |
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all good. unfortunately i still cannot say im a veteran but rumor has it (again) that we're set for Afghanistan. so hopefully we'll start mobilizing around october or november
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Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 06:33 am |
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R-6 as TOF said you are good to go, I hope you don't see combat ever, but get all the training you can if you feel you will be going oversea's.
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Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 06:15 pm |
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Gotta re-iterate on this point.
During my time in the Desert on Active Duty (Desert Storm and Desert Shield), I was fortunate enough to avoid seeing combat, or anything combat related.
I wasn't so fortunate in Iraq as a civi. I spent 4 years there from 2003 to 2007 and I saw a lot of good friends hurt/killed due to everything from IEDs to random gunfire.
Only one person I know directly was ever killed by direct fire - and he was a medic rushing to the aid of another during a firefight at Abu Ghraib prison.
I hope you don't have to feel that pain of loss, or the experience of being shot at in the first place.
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Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 06:21 pm |
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r6-rider wrote: all good. unfortunately i still cannot say im a veteran but rumor has it (again) that we're set for Afghanistan. so hopefully we'll start mobilizing around october or november
There are two types of veteran.- Combat - those who have served in an active theater and seen or been near combat.
- Non-combat - those who have performed a term of military service.
Both have equal stature in my eyes. Both have the possibility of being heroes. Both have given up much of themselves and their individual freedoms in service to their country.
All give some. Some give all.
And I say that both have the possibility of being heroes because not every veteran has or even had honorable service. Even if they were discharged honorably.
Think Lindy Englund, and you'll know where I'm coming from.
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Posted: Sat Jul 4th, 2009 07:18 pm |
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For those that served in actually combat they will receive a ribbon and it will be on your DD-214.In the Nam I think almost all have seen some combat, though I was never south of DaNang. I would say I encountered a firefight more as a 0341 then I did as a 0321. Any one there in 1968 around the Arizona Territory?
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Crossfire Jedi
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Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 05:56 pm |
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Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 05:58 pm |
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You can order nearly any ribbon online, as long as you remember which one it was. 
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Sonora Rebel
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Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 07:28 pm |
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Only 'ribbon' for combat (NAVY/MARCORPS) is the Combat Action Ribbon. It's blue/gold/red with a thin red/white/blue stripe in the center. There is no pendant 'medal' attached. The CAR is not issued to those 'in the combat zone'... you have to have been 'shot at'. Now... if you're aircrew... you get shot at 'n that don't count. You have the Air Medal... (maybe) but if you're a passenger (as in a helo)... and get shot at... (even if you get to shoot back) you get neither. You have to be on the ground or aboard ship. This is typical dubble-think. As for the 'maybe' on the Air medal... you haft'a go get shot at 3 times (Strike Flights) to earn one. If some dink lobs one in your direction... even remotely... you can pick up a CAR.
Combat Infantrymen Badge I b'lieve was 30 days in the bush. I proposed somethin' similar for NAVY/MARCORPS. Navy was a silver cutlass on a blue field with a silver border 'n the Marines was a gold musket on a red field with a gold border.
There's so many different 'pins' now... I can't keep up with 'em... medals too. I think the Air Force gives 'em a medal for graduating basic. WTF? I see E-2's on the street with at least 3 ribbons 'n they're still in their bootcamp issue.
I have a couple friends who're 'Nam vets... one was a helo driver 'n the other a grunt. They're tellin' me 'bout an encounter they had with a 'poser'. This guy was about 56-58 or so... 'claimed to be 'Military Intelligence'. (uh-huh) Now... at a minimum... the earliest he could'a been in the 'Nam was '68... and as a 18 yr old E-nuthin'... he's not gonna be any kind'a spook. OK... so we'll give it a few years... '71 maybe. Lets make him a Sgt by then even? But... he'd be a short-timer. (but... I digress)... So... the dude starts of his tale of derring-do with: "We used to take 'em (the VC) up in helo's... 'throw one of 'em out... so the others would talk.' I have heard that piece of BS more times than I can count. One... you can't hear squat inside a UH-1B/C w/o the phones on. Plus all the other 'missing parts' of such stuff. So... my bud the grunt asks this dude; ''Remember the stamps we used back then? 'Had a funny design but i can't remember what it was?" The guy sez: "Yeah... but I can't remember what it was either." So my helo pilot bud sez... 'You can't remember 'cause you weren't there. "There was no special 'stamp'. Ya wrote 'FREE' in the upper r/h corner of the envelope." The guy left his beer on the bar 'n left...
Here's a 'poser'... blowin' smoke at a pair of real vets. How dumb can ya be? They told me they'd wished I'd been there. Outing posers has become an obsession. 'Know what a 'John Wayne' is? A B-2 unit? Ham 'n limas was called what? What color were the limas? What was on the top of a 'spiced meatball'? What's unique about Chau Doc... and what river is it on? What was unique about the Parrots Beak?
The MSGST runnin' the Tan Son Nhut NCO club wa 'selling' memberships. What color was the card 'n what'd it cost? Richmond Barracks was where? What purpose did it serve?
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| Yeah, I remember it being both a ribbon and a separate box with a medal attached to a ribbon..granted it's been 18 years ago now, but I remember that much. I am going to try and find it online.
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Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 09:10 pm |
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Sonora Rebel wrote: There's so many different 'pins' now... I can't keep up with 'em... medals too. I think the Air Force gives 'em a medal for graduating basic. WTF? I see E-2's on the street with at least 3 ribbons 'n they're still in their bootcamp issue
not just airforce. when i graduated basic we got the army service ribbon and the national defense service ribbon. the company next to us got a total of 3 but im not sure what it was
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Sonora Rebel
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Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 09:12 pm |
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It was prob'ly National Defense.. Red ribbon... yellow stripe in the middle.
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Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 09:53 pm |
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He was correct I joined at 17 out of high school, and was not allow to go to the Nam till I was 18. In the Marines you do get the CAR if you see combat. Out of boot camp only had 1 ribbon. I arrived in the Nam in Jan. of 68 as a PFC. I remember the Ham and MFers well lol , preferred the Long rations much better.
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Sonora Rebel
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Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 11:00 pm |
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reconvic wrote: He was correct I joined at 17 out of high school, and was not allow to go to the Nam till I was 18. In the Marines you do get the CAR if you see combat. Out of boot camp only had 1 ribbon. I arrived in the Nam in Jan. of 68 as a PFC. I remember the Ham and MFers well lol , preferred the Long rations much better.
S/F Vic
'T'was Bean's 'n MF'rs... the ham chunks were like rubber... but the more ya knawed on 'em... the bigger they got. The beans were white (from age). 'Long? Ya mean LRRP Rats... (Long Range Recon Patrol)... 'Had a lotta sugar... we scored the gumdrops when we could get 'em.
I kept a folding Tommy cooker the size of a cigarette pack 'n had a metal canteen stove for my cup that fit over the canteen. I think those are quite rare now. The 'new issue ' wire handle cups sucked... the old style with the folding handle (WWII type) was much better. Made sure I had 'nuff hex tabs so I didn't have to eat the more impossible stuff cold. In '65... we were still gettin' K-rats from WWII... inna waxed box date 1944. (yum) Lucky Strike 'Green'... 'Light one and in one drag you'd finish the butt. 'Had 'Ham slices... dump it out... cut the green 'outer ring' off... 'n hope for the best with what remained. Chicklets (2) were petrified... but you could suck on 'em for the sugar. The innards were unchewable. I still have my John Wayne on my dog tag chain... Wartime ones are black anodized... the bare metal ones are later issue. They're called P-38's... cause it takes 38 P-unctures to open a C-rats can with one. 'Better than nuthin' Only one of thse per case of C-rats... so if you were gonna score one... you had to be quick.
We got 30 round mags... but no 30 round mag pouches for our 782 gear. We used canteen covers with socks between 'em so they wouldn't rattle. We couldn't get M-7 bayonets or knives either for awhile. Finally got some Cammilus 'K-bar' types 'n scrounged up some M-3's.
I came back from 'Nam in '72... 'passed this surplus store that had a log in the window display... with M-7's stuck in it... Brand new... w/ new M-8 sheaths too. DoD in action. I go in this joint... 30 round mag pouches up the gazoo. Brand new, US marked. But wait... there's more! US marked AK-47 mag pouches... new... ALICE clips 'n all... I wasn't pissed... I was furious.
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Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 11:51 pm |
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Yeah, I can see why that would upset you Sonora..that's a disgrace.
http://www.azopencarry.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 8th, 2009 12:03 am |
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If your talking about me I was in P.I Plt 2001 Was 17 when I joined , Mos 0341 but to young to go to the NAM till 18 in Camp Pentelton, I advance jungle training. I was 1st tour In An -Hoa. I am 100 percent disabiled from the Nam.
I was with 2/5 H & S company 1st tour, BTW we called them Ham & mother Ferrs.
Enuff said What was your Mos ? Where were you in 68 ???????????
You probably was a Hollywood Marine lol
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Posted: Wed Jul 8th, 2009 12:24 am |
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It makes me sad when a Marine that maybe chewed the same mud as me questions me! I done more as a Marine then most but don't brag about it. I earned my Bubble and Wings and also a pathfinder , what is the scarf mean
Whale Sh!t on the eagle neck? You want to get down, I am up for you easy.
tyou are talking to a lean mean fighting machine here, you office poggy.
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Sonora Rebel
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'68?... I was either at MCAS Yuma or AO-B school in JAX. I'd already done a 'Nam tour (as a Petty Officer, same-same CPL) 3 years prior and had a total of 9 years active duty at the time. I also enlisted at 17... in 1960. I was neither a Marine nor an office pogue (housecat). I was a Navy Aviation Ordnanceman / Aircrew doin' close air support stuff. We had several Marines in the squadron (including NFO/Aircrew) one of whom was killed while I was there again in '71-'72. We flew OV-10A Bronco's outta Binh Thuy off the Bassac down in IV Corps. By this time I was a Senior Petty Officer... same-same SSGT. Also had the 1st ANGLICO there... still in-country when the media claimed all Marines were gone.
Dunno why you should get so defensive? Scarf is Marine slang for a necktie... the 'field scarf'. Whatever that other term is ain't common... Never heard it. My father was a China Marine... and also served in the 10th Horse in the 2nd Nicaragua where he was wounded.
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Posted: Wed Jul 8th, 2009 02:19 am |
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Sonora Rebel wrote:
'68?... I was either at MCAS Yuma or AO-B school in JAX. I'd already done a 'Nam tour (as a Petty Officer, same-same CPL) 3 years prior and had a total of 9 years active duty at the time. I also enlisted at 17... in 1960. I was neither a Marine nor an office pogue (housecat). I was a Navy Aviation Ordnanceman / Aircrew doin' close air support stuff. We had several Marines in the squadron (including NFO/Aircrew) one of whom was killed while I was there again in '71-'72. We flew OV-10A Bronco's outta Binh Thuy off the Bassac down in IV Corps. By this time I was a Senior Petty Officer... same-same SSGT. Also had the 1st ANGLICO there... still in-country when the media claimed all Marines were gone.
Dunno why you should get so defensive? Scarf is Marine slang for a necktie... the 'field scarf'. Whatever that other term is ain't common... Never heard it. My father was a China Marine... and also served in the 10th Horse in the 2nd Nicaragua where he was wounded.
First off your WRONG thee scarf means you made it thru the Armys Patherfinder school.
Second if you are a Marine remember what Sember Fi means, Marines are brothers, we don't talk behind someones back I shooy sraight like I talk.
So if you or anyone wants to talk about my beloved CORPS, talk like a Marine does not when I am out shooting and not hear to defend myself.
The real deal S/F Vic
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