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GWbiker
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 Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 07:59 pm
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....and that was a **BIG** mistake, 'cause man get's shot by Tucson Cop..........DUH:banghead:



http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/hourlyupdate/298353.php

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 Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 08:05 pm
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man what a dickhead, im glad he got shot. +1 for the officer

usually how it goes in this world, you try to help someone and what happens? no good deed goes unpunished

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 Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 08:30 pm
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10 to 1 they're illegals.  'Tried to jack a cop 'n pulled a gun too?  :uhoh:  

In Arizona? :what: Darwin Award winner.  One less. :celebrate

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 Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 08:57 pm
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.....and stay tuned for the next episode of "The World's Dumbest Criminals!!"

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 Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 10:08 pm
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Stupidest Criminal ever.

Mistake #1.  He pointed his gun at a cop.

Mistake #2.  As the cop tried to take the gun away, he didn't fire.

Mistake #3.  As the cop went to get his own gun, he didn't fire.

Mistake #4.  When the cop actually got his gun, the idiot didn't drop his or fire it first.

Never point a gun at something you aren't willing to shoot.

Never shoot something you aren't willing to kill.

Cop did the right thing.  Ended up saving the taxpayers a lot of money.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 11:27 pm
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I doubt the were illegals, at least not the now deceased suspect. However, I have a high level of confidence that they were participating in something illegal. Otherwise, why the suspicious behavior?

I'm glad the LEO is safe and unharmed. Hopefully, Hoppler didn't reproduce before this incident. His kind of stupid is probably genetic.

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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 04:36 am
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I know it's funny how stupid criminals can be, but damn that sounds scary. I'm glad the cops are okay.

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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 03:50 pm
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News as of this mornin'... Hopper pulled an Airsoft gun with the orange plug removed.  It was 1AM... 'n it's dark out there.  No matter... One less idiot.  If he'd pulled that on me I would'a shot him too.

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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 06:11 pm
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Sonora Rebel wrote:
News as of this mornin'... Hopper pulled an Airsoft gun with the orange plug removed.  It was 1AM... 'n it's dark out there.  No matter... One less idiot.  If he'd pulled that on me I would'a shot him too.

Yep, wife and I were driving by what was left of the crime scene yesterday morning. Checked out the guy's mug shot on the Red Star's web site- it seems Mr Hopper had a record. I would have done the same thing Officer Acevedo did- that's one thuggish looking perp.

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Looks aren't everything. I used to have long hair, a full beard, and when I was in a fully non-work, and relaxed mode, I was usually in beat up blue jeans and a t-shirt. I was still successful at work, but the following story wouldn't be possible if I'd looked "straight."

About 10 years ago I was in a beer/wine store in Flower Mound, TX. I walked in while a couple of LEOs were at the counter buying sodas and cigarettes. The whole time I was in the store the LEOs watched me. They had already paid, and yet they stayed in the store and kept a large amount of curiosity aimed my way.

When I went to the counter and paid, I looked at the LEOs and just shook my head. The attendant, an african-american man, took my money and said to me just under his breath, "I know how you feel man."

Looks aren't everything.

Today I am still successful in my work. I now shave my head, or sometimes wear my hair extremely short. Like the perp in the article leading this thread, I have a goatee. I'm 6'4" and I weigh 250, so a lot of people think I'm a pretty imposing figure. My wife and daughter know I'm a teddy bear. I dress a little cleaner, and I'm probably not classed anywhere near the mountain man look I had ten years ago.

But I still get suspicious looks. Even when I'm not carrying.

Hoppler's look gets folks thinking that he's what criminals should look like. But looks aren't everything.

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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 07:02 pm
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I hear you. I am 6' 1", around 235 with a 52" chest and a full beard. My hair is short but when I carry they still give me strange looks.

And as most AZ types know, even showing a gun to a cop in AZ in a threatening manner is bad advice.

I cannot blame the LEO types at all.

Last edited on Thu Jun 25th, 2009 07:03 pm by keninaz

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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 09:58 pm
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davesnothere wrote: The attendant, an african-american man, took my money and said to me just under his breath, "I know how you feel man."

ahahahaha thats priceless

personally if i had a cop following me around id start playing hide and seek. no law against hiding from a cop

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 Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2009 07:34 am
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Decoligny wrote: Stupidest Criminal ever.

Mistake #1.  He pointed his gun at a cop.

Mistake #2.  As the cop tried to take the gun away, he didn't fire.

Mistake #3.  As the cop went to get his own gun, he didn't fire.

Mistake #4.  When the cop actually got his gun, the idiot didn't drop his or fire it first.

Never point a gun at something you aren't willing to shoot.

Never shoot something you aren't willing to kill.

Cop did the right thing.  Ended up saving the taxpayers a lot of money.

Fortunately, the true nature of a coward shone through.  He thinks the gun makes his dick bigger, he's never pulled the trigger.  It's a macho show-off thing.  When it came time to put up or shut up, his mind was not anywhere near the circumstance.

And that's just fine with me!  +1 for the good guys.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2009 07:37 am
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r6-rider wrote: davesnothere wrote: The attendant, an african-american man, took my money and said to me just under his breath, "I know how you feel man."

ahahahaha thats priceless

personally if i had a cop following me around id start playing hide and seek. no law against hiding from a cop

I play peek-a-boo and when they frown on it I refer to them in the manner of 'aw, I'm sorry sweetie, did I get sand in your....'  You get the idea.

Rude people, badge or not, get it right back.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2009 08:37 am
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ixtow wrote: r6-rider wrote: davesnothere wrote: The attendant, an african-american man, took my money and said to me just under his breath, "I know how you feel man."

ahahahaha thats priceless

personally if i had a cop following me around id start playing hide and seek. no law against hiding from a cop

I play peek-a-boo and when they frown on it I refer to them in the manner of 'aw, I'm sorry sweetie, did I get sand in your....'  You get the idea.

Rude people, badge or not, get it right back.

Wow, like to f*ck with the Police, don't ya'? I met your kind in the state prison system, when they pissed off the Police, got arrested and jailed and came whining to me 'cause they were scared and couldn't do jail time.

For the past 30 years I OC/CC in Pennsylvania and around Arizona and I've NEVER been followed around or questioned by Police as why I carry a hand gun.

Maybe it's because I don't act like a wise a$$ PUNK!:what:

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 Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2009 08:53 am
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GWbiker wrote: ixtow wrote: r6-rider wrote: davesnothere wrote: The attendant, an african-american man, took my money and said to me just under his breath, "I know how you feel man."

ahahahaha thats priceless

personally if i had a cop following me around id start playing hide and seek. no law against hiding from a cop

I play peek-a-boo and when they frown on it I refer to them in the manner of 'aw, I'm sorry sweetie, did I get sand in your....'  You get the idea.

Rude people, badge or not, get it right back.

Wow, like to f*ck with the Police, don't ya'? I met your kind in the state prison system, when they pissed off the Police, got arrested and jailed and came whining to me 'cause they were scared and couldn't do jail time.

For the past 30 years I OC/CC in Pennsylvania and around Arizona and I've NEVER been followed around or questioned by Police as why I carry a hand gun.

Maybe it's because I don't act like a wise a$$ PUNK!:what:

When a cop acts like a wise-ass punk, I give it back.

People who use their badge to intimidate those who aren't doing anything wrong, deserve to be messed with.  I was followed around a convenience store by a State Trooper once.  I gave back.  Big deal.  Get over yourself.

There wasn't anything 'suspicious' about me.  She was just being a see you en tea.  I said 'hi' and 'can I help you?' when I noted she was standing uncomfortably close, with the smarmy "I'm better than you" look.  She refused to even speak, just stand there staring me down.  Following not even 2 steps behind me anywhere I went.  I started walking around in circles, looking at stuff I didn't even want to buy, just for laughs.  Note, my hands were full (one item in each hand, intentionally) to show I couldn't be stealing anything...

How dare I buy gas for my bike and grab a chocolate milk and a slim-jim!  I really needed that!  I deserve to be in jail!

Whatever.  Shut your mouth, boy.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2009 09:24 am
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ixtow wrote: GWbiker wrote: ixtow wrote: r6-rider wrote: davesnothere wrote: The attendant, an african-american man, took my money and said to me just under his breath, "I know how you feel man."

ahahahaha thats priceless

personally if i had a cop following me around id start playing hide and seek. no law against hiding from a cop

I play peek-a-boo and when they frown on it I refer to them in the manner of 'aw, I'm sorry sweetie, did I get sand in your....'  You get the idea.

Rude people, badge or not, get it right back.

Wow, like to f*ck with the Police, don't ya'? I met your kind in the state prison system, when they pissed off the Police, got arrested and jailed and came whining to me 'cause they were scared and couldn't do jail time.

For the past 30 years I OC/CC in Pennsylvania and around Arizona and I've NEVER been followed around or questioned by Police as why I carry a hand gun.

Maybe it's because I don't act like a wise a$$ PUNK!:what:

When a cop acts like a wise-ass punk, I give it back.

People who use their badge to intimidate those who aren't doing anything wrong, deserve to be messed with.  I was followed around a convenience store by a State Trooper once.  I gave back.  Big deal.  Get over yourself.

There wasn't anything 'suspicious' about me.  She was just being a see you en tea.  I said 'hi' and 'can I help you?' when I noted she was standing uncomfortably close, with the smarmy "I'm better than you" look.  She refused to even speak, just stand there staring me down.  Following not even 2 steps behind me anywhere I went.  I started walking around in circles, looking at stuff I didn't even want to buy, just for laughs.  Note, my hands were full (one item in each hand, intentionally) to show I couldn't be stealing anything...

How dare I buy gas for my bike and grab a chocolate milk and a slim-jim!  I really needed that!  I deserve to be in jail!

Whatever.  Shut your mouth, boy

Yep, I was right. You're nothing but a wise a$$ PUNK with an attitude that will get you jailed by Police.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2009 09:46 am
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GWbiker wrote:
ixtow wrote: GWbiker wrote: ixtow wrote: r6-rider wrote: davesnothere wrote: The attendant, an african-american man, took my money and said to me just under his breath, "I know how you feel man."

ahahahaha thats priceless

personally if i had a cop following me around id start playing hide and seek. no law against hiding from a cop

I play peek-a-boo and when they frown on it I refer to them in the manner of 'aw, I'm sorry sweetie, did I get sand in your....'  You get the idea.

Rude people, badge or not, get it right back.

Wow, like to f*ck with the Police, don't ya'? I met your kind in the state prison system, when they pissed off the Police, got arrested and jailed and came whining to me 'cause they were scared and couldn't do jail time.

For the past 30 years I OC/CC in Pennsylvania and around Arizona and I've NEVER been followed around or questioned by Police as why I carry a hand gun.

Maybe it's because I don't act like a wise a$$ PUNK!:what:

When a cop acts like a wise-ass punk, I give it back.

People who use their badge to intimidate those who aren't doing anything wrong, deserve to be messed with.  I was followed around a convenience store by a State Trooper once.  I gave back.  Big deal.  Get over yourself.

There wasn't anything 'suspicious' about me.  She was just being a see you en tea.  I said 'hi' and 'can I help you?' when I noted she was standing uncomfortably close, with the smarmy "I'm better than you" look.  She refused to even speak, just stand there staring me down.  Following not even 2 steps behind me anywhere I went.  I started walking around in circles, looking at stuff I didn't even want to buy, just for laughs.  Note, my hands were full (one item in each hand, intentionally) to show I couldn't be stealing anything...

How dare I buy gas for my bike and grab a chocolate milk and a slim-jim!  I really needed that!  I deserve to be in jail!

Whatever.  Shut your mouth, boy

Yep, I was right. You're nothing but a wise a$$ PUNK with an attitude that will get you jailed by Police.


I sure look forward to the cop who does that. Good thing for decent, free people that you aren't.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2009 06:45 pm
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Police who are belligerent rattle me, and I get extremely angry.  However, as I have mentioned in other posts, I have not run into this circumstance in Arizona.  My encounters with police have been professional and even friendly.

I think my thing is, I want to like cops.  I want to think of them as the good guys.  Because I know at their best, that is exactly what they are.  Anti-authoritarian as I am, I've never been one of these people who takes pleasure or broadcasts having problems with police.

My general policy is to be friendly, even warm to police, even if I'm annoyed at being stopped (and I get stopped all the time, wandering around my neighborhood at 3 AM with insomnia - after the third time in a month, it gets really annoying).    But even those guys, who really shouldn't have been stopping me for walking on a sidewalk, are never belligerent.  They're just wondering why some guy is wandering around at 3 AM.  I can understand that.

The thing about messing with cops playfully, or being rude to them, is it contributes to the tendency of seasoned cops to be gruff and suspicious of everyone.  I don't want to contribute to that because there's nothing worse than a guy with a gun and a badge and the power of the State behind him, snarling at you.

But again - in California I've had problems (and one very nice encounter in SF, one time), and tons of problems in New Jersey - police are just jerks in New Jersey and they enjoy being that way.

Here in Arizona, professional and courteous, based on my experiences so far, and as such, they will get the same back from me.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2009 09:21 pm
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WarDragonII wrote: .....and stay tuned for the next episode of "The World's Deadest Criminals!!"
Fixed it for you


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