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Notso
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Posted: Wed Sep 12th, 2007 12:19 am |
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Fortunately, this is her 2nd term, so I guess she can't run anyway???? (I'm assuming we have term limits here??) Unfortunately, she was just re-elected and we have another 3 years to go  .
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Armed4Life
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Posted: Wed Sep 12th, 2007 09:18 pm |
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Notso wrote: It's in the alcohol code
4-244. Unlawful acts
30. For a licensee or employee to knowingly permit a person in possession of a firearm other than a peace officer, the licensee or an employee of the licensee acting with the permission of the licensee to remain on the licensed premises or to serve, sell or furnish spirituous liquor to a person in possession of a firearm while on the licensed premises of an on-sale retailer. This paragraph shall not apply to hotel or motel guest room accommodations nor to the exhibition or display of a firearm in conjunction with a meeting, show, class or similar event. It shall be a defense to action under this paragraph if the licensee or employee requested assistance of a peace officer to remove such person.
This particular section does NOT say that the person carrying a weapon into an establishment that serves alcohol for on-premises consumption is acting unlawfully. It says that the operator or employees that allow someone carrying a firearm to remain in such an establishment is acting unlawfully.
Section 29 contains the actual prohibition against carrying in bars and restaurants that serve alcohol.
29. For any person other than a peace officer, the licensee or an employee of the licensee acting with the permission of the licensee to be in possession of a firearm while on the licensed premises of an on-sale retailer knowing such possession is prohibited. This paragraph shall not be construed to include a situation in which a person is on licensed premises for a limited time in order to seek emergency aid and such person does not buy, receive, consume or possess spirituous liquor. This paragraph shall not apply to hotel or motel guest room accommodations nor to the exhibition or display of a firearm in conjunction with a meeting, show, class or similar event.
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Notso
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Posted: Thu Sep 13th, 2007 04:36 am |
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You're so right Armed4Life. When I looked at that something didn't seem right, but was in too big of a hurry to think about it I guess. I knew it was there somewhere, just picked the wrong one. 
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only_one
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 08:52 am |
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29. For any person other than a peace officer, the licensee or an employee of the licensee acting with the permission of the licensee to be in possession of a firearm while on the licensed premises of an on-sale retailer knowing such possession is prohibited
wouldn't this mean then that any place that sells alcohol would limit a person carrying a firearm?
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dreamcro
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 12:23 am |
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| Not at all. Two kinds of liquor licenses. One allows the place to sell for consumption on premies( NO firearms allowed), and the other for take home use only(Firearms totally cool).
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only_one
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 07:43 am |
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| is that where the "on-sale retailer" part comes in?
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John Skookum
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Posted: Thu Jun 26th, 2008 06:49 am |
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For any person other than a peace officer, the licensee or an employee of the licensee acting with the permission of the licensee to be in possession of a firearm while on the licensed premises of an on-sale retailer knowing such possession is prohibited.
This language should get you a get-out-of-jail-free card.... ONCE. If it's not posted. And you don't have a CC permit.
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cato
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Posted: Tue Jul 1st, 2008 05:17 am |
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John Skookum wrote: For any person other than a peace officer, the licensee or an employee of the licensee acting with the permission of the licensee to be in possession of a firearm while on the licensed premises of an on-sale retailer knowing such possession is prohibited.
This language should get you a get-out-of-jail-free card.... ONCE. If it's not posted. And you don't have a CC permit.
Very good point! Very usefull for out of staters!
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marshaul
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Posted: Tue Jul 1st, 2008 09:20 am |
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CA_Libertarian wrote:
FogRider wrote: ...drinking with firearms is always a bad idea.
I'm curious, why is drinking with a firearm a bad idea? Does the alcohol vapor corrode the ammunition? 
Sarcasm aside, I'll guess that you are repeating the 'guns and alcohol don't mix' mantra that most of us hear from time to time. I honestly think this is just another gun-grabbing tactic to try to deter carrying a firearm - you know how us 'redneck gun nuts' love our beer!
My opinion is that guns are less dangerous than cars. If I'm sober enough to drive home, then I'm sober enough to not accidently draw my gun and shoot someone.
Now, if you have a drinking problem, or plan to get drunk for some special occasion, then you probably shouldn't drive and or carry your gun (...or your knife ...and maybe wear a helmet).
I have come to feel the same way, and have been known to OC while having a beer at my local "watering hole" when I am in Virginia. My criterion is simple: if I am sober enough to drive home, I am sober enough to carry my gun. If I am not going to be sober enough to drive home, I have no business going out in the first place, and furthermore I won't. Therefore, if I do go out, there is no reason not to bring my gun, even if I may at some point drink a beer, at a bar or private residence (god forbid a party!). This also happens to be legal in Virginia, as far as I can tell.
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