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coolusername2007
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Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 12:30 am |
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Read this on the Calguns forum. I haven't UOC'ed at this Walmart, but I have UOC'ed at the Temecula Walmart (next closest store) just this week, I had no problems...nobody noticed. Apparently this guy wasn't as 'lucky'.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=217350
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coolusername2007
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Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 01:06 am |
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Just called the Murrieta Walmart and talked with one of their managers. She would not give any specifics on the incident, but did confirm this store's policy is not different than the corporate Walmart policy. So to confirm I asked her again if it was OK to open carry in their store. She said yes.
(also posted this in the cgf thread).
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Sons of Liberty
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Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 03:00 am |
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If this person was illegally detained, maybe this Walmart ought to be our next UOC event?!
A little public education never hurt anyone. 
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demnogis
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Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 03:13 am |
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I usually don't shop at Wally World™. Not enough products made in the U.S.A. are sold there.
Add that to the fact that it is all the way out in Murietta... I don't know... 
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ourmanthejoker
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Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 03:33 am |
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demnogis wrote: I usually don't shop at Wally World™. Not enough products made in the U.S.A. are sold there.
Add that to the fact that it is all the way out in Murietta... I don't know...
I concur. Unfortunately most clothing is made overseas, so I take target over wally.
Even further I try to buy ammo at small businesses, even if it's a buck extra.
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coolusername2007
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Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 04:38 am |
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| At this point we don't know if it was a Walmart employee who called the law, it could have been a customer. Let's find out the facts first, Pullnshoot sent in a FOIA form (I think). If this guy was legally UOC'ing and was harassed by the Murrieta PD, then that's where we go. Until then let's wait for the facts. But guys, listen, we have to exercise our rights where its needed, not where its convenient.
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sudden valley gunner
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Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 03:45 pm |
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I agree with the above post and wish I wasn't so far away I would join you there.
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Streetbikerr6
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Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 06:23 pm |
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Well assuming the facts are that...
1.Black man walks into walmart with LAPD souvenir hat.
2. He is lawfully open carrying.
3. Walmart calls the cops because they think it's against their policy.
4. Police unlawfully detain or arrest him and run a serial number check on his weapon.
5. Edit addition- The man was not asked to leave the store, he was not trespassing.
Then this seems like not only an infringement on this man's rights, yet racial profilling as well.
Last edited on Fri Sep 4th, 2009 06:26 pm by Streetbikerr6
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1245A Defender
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Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 06:43 pm |
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Streetbikerr6 wrote: Well assuming the facts are that...
1.Black man walks into walmart with LAPD souvenir hat.
2. He is lawfully open carrying.
3. Walmart calls the cops because they think it's against their policy.
4. Police unlawfully detain or arrest him and run a serial number check on his weapon.
5. Edit addition- The man was not asked to leave the store, he was not trespassing.
Then this seems like not only an infringement on this man's rights, yet racial profilling as well.
how in the hell do you get racial profiling?
was he OCing because he is black? or because he cant get a permit to CC?
this kind of stuff happens to OCers often and every where!
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N6ATF
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Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 07:34 pm |
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coolusername2007 wrote: Pullnshoot sent in a FOIA form (I think)
Expect they'll follow the anti-citizen playbook and claim there is an ongoing investigation and they don't have to reveal jack feces to anyone. PRAR (Public Records Act Request), btw.
Last edited on Fri Sep 4th, 2009 07:39 pm by N6ATF
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demnogis
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Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 09:55 pm |
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2, 4, 5 A Defender, California's firearms laws are racially motivated. The Mulford Act of 1967/1968 for example, is what gave us P.C. §12031. I can easily believe that because the person in question was UOCing and was black is why the police were called. Murrietta is conservative cow country. They're not called stereotypes without a reason.
2, 4, 5 A defender wrote: Streetbikerr6 wrote: ...
Then this seems like not only an infringement on this man's rights, yet racial profilling as well.
how in the hell do you get racial profiling?
was he OCing because he is black? or because he cant get a permit to CC?
this kind of stuff happens to OCers often and every where!
On a side note, I will not refer to black people as African-American; they are American just like everyone born and raised here. I believe further compartmentalizing nationality by race is racist. Only would I refer to a first generation African who has earned citizenship in our country as an African-American (and they're not all black!).
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1245A Defender
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Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 10:04 pm |
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i see your point, we in wash had black panthers too, you got 12031, we got 9.41.270. and then there is the afro/african american nomenclature. obama is not afro; he is first generation. his dad was from kenya. they like to say hes the first black pres but hes half white too. i thought clinton was the first black pres!
there is more to the story of this OCer at walmart, cant wait to read about it.
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coolusername2007
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Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 10:14 pm |
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I know how to find out if this was racial profiling, at least anecdotally? We need to find this guy and ask him how many times he UOC'ed before being detained. Most everyone here has the same experience, you have to UOC quite a bit before anybody notices and calls the law. If this was his first UOC that would speak volumes don't you think?
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bigtoe416
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Posted: Sat Sep 5th, 2009 04:55 am |
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coolusername2007 wrote: I know how to find out if this was racial profiling, at least anecdotally? We need to find this guy and ask him how many times he UOC'ed before being detained. Most everyone here has the same experience, you have to UOC quite a bit before anybody notices and calls the law. If this was his first UOC that would speak volumes don't you think?
Not really. Bobbarker UOCed his first time in Oceanside on July 4th, 2008 and was arrested for it. I actually don't know what race bobbarker is, but I'm assuming he's white...just like...Bob Barker.
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coolusername2007
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Posted: Sat Sep 5th, 2009 05:55 pm |
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bigtoe416 wrote: coolusername2007 wrote: I know how to find out if this was racial profiling, at least anecdotally? We need to find this guy and ask him how many times he UOC'ed before being detained. Most everyone here has the same experience, you have to UOC quite a bit before anybody notices and calls the law. If this was his first UOC that would speak volumes don't you think?
Not really. Bobbarker UOCed his first time in Oceanside on July 4th, 2008 and was arrested for it. I actually don't know what race bobbarker is, but I'm assuming he's white...just like...Bob Barker.
That may not be a correct assumption. Plus for those who don't know Oceanside PD can be aggressive, there are plenty of seedy areas in Oceanside and adding the Camp Pendleton base into the mix means they are all over anything that raises their eyebrows.
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rmodel65
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Posted: Sun Sep 6th, 2009 05:58 am |
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ourmanthejoker wrote: demnogis wrote: I usually don't shop at Wally World™. Not enough products made in the U.S.A. are sold there.
Add that to the fact that it is all the way out in Murietta... I don't know...
I concur. Unfortunately most clothing is made overseas, so I take target over wally.
Even further I try to buy ammo at small businesses, even if it's a buck extra.
the Mossberg 500 are made in the USA  i just bought one from walmart here in GA 207$ 221$ OTD 
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chewy352
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Posted: Sun Oct 25th, 2009 03:16 am |
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I just OCd solo for the first time today. I had to drive all the way up to Ridgecrest CA to check on my brother. I suspected my mothers woman/child beating boyfriend was there again. As he has threatened my life once before I felt bringing my perfered method of self defense was warranted.
I drove all the way up from San Diego (painstakingly following all the gun laws which protect us from criminals  ) to Ridgecest. About a 3.5 hour drive. Along the way I made 2 stops, an AM PM in Murrieta and an AM PM at Kramer junction. No problems or questions at either.
I spent 30 mins at my mothers house with no problems and then headed home.
On my way home I realized my recorder was dying so I stopped at Murrieta Walmart. I was only in there for about 5-10 mins and for no apparent reason grown men started pissing their pants, unborn children self aborting and woman screaming hysterically (all due credit to whoever said this first). Just kidding I had no problems and made it home safe and sound.
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ConsideringOC
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Posted: Sun Oct 25th, 2009 03:33 pm |
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| Streetbikerr6 .... you need to quit assuming. We all know that phase that goes along with ASS-U-ME. Sometimes your ignorance really glistens in your posts.
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HankT
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Posted: Sun Oct 25th, 2009 03:44 pm |
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ConsideringOC wrote: Streetbikerr6 .... you need to quit assuming. We all know that phase that goes along with ASS-U-ME.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoqUwyHseg4
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CA_Libertarian
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Posted: Sun Oct 25th, 2009 05:41 pm |
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chewy352 wrote: I just OCd solo for the first time today....
What's with the off-topic necro-bump? I'm sure many of us want to hear about your OC experiences, but what does this have to do with someone being cuffed and detained at Murrieta Walmart?
Please, feel free to create a new thread rather than posting off-topic in a thread that has been dead for more than a month...
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