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inbox485
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Posted: Sun Nov 8th, 2009 12:44 am |
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chewy352 wrote: To avoid this situation I will be purchasing Hand and leg restraints so that I can safely holster my firearm as soon as BG is restrained.
I'd recommend you consider zip ties instead. Having cuffs without an occupational use for them paints you as a wannabe cop if the guy sues for false imprisonment or injury from the cuffs. Zips (I'm talking about the automotive variety - not those sold at mall ninja sites) are merely restraints of opportunity. It's like defending yourself with a Maglight rather than buying a baton.
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chewy352
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Posted: Sun Nov 8th, 2009 03:53 am |
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| I have been looking into the zip tie cuffs. They are pretty cheap.
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J.A.G.
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Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2009 07:13 pm |
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Wow... very interesting incident. If cops are being taught to shoot first, ask questions later, then they are not getting very good training. He shoots the man 6 times, and the guy lives to tell about it? That's some pretty lousy shooting if you ask me.
I don't think we are getting all the facts (as usual), so it is really hard to say what the hell happened.
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Ian
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Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2009 07:39 pm |
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CA_Libertarian wrote: chewy352 wrote: To avoid this situation I will be purchasing Hand and leg restraints so that I can safely holster my firearm as soon as BG is restrained.
Handcuffs work just fine. I have two pair from my private security days, and would not hesitate to handcuff an intruder (whether I am forced to shoot him or not - I'm no doctor, so every BG entering my house would get cuffed, even if they appear incapacitated).
It helps to know some restraint and handcuffing techniques; most places that do BSIS guard cert classes also offer courses in restraint/cuffing for a reasonable price.
I would definitely NOT want to go hands on with an intruder! I'm keeping my distance so I have time to shoot if they decide to try something.
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chewy352
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Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2009 08:05 pm |
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| My trigger pull takes the same amount of time whether i'm 2 inches away or 20 feet away.
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eddyys
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Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2009 08:46 pm |
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Typical California. Just sad...
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chewy352
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Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2009 09:01 pm |
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eddyys wrote: Typical California. Just sad...
Says the guy who hides his location.
Amazing how you can classify people by one statement on an online forum.
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eddyys
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Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2009 09:03 pm |
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chewy352 wrote: eddyys wrote: Typical California. Just sad...
Says the guy who hides his location.
Amazing how you can classify people by one statement on an online forum.
I wasn't classifying the people I was classifying the situation. If this were to happen and they didn't say the location I would think, Cally, NY, or Maryland.
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chewy352
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Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2009 09:16 pm |
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| Sorry. Thought it was an attack on me. My bad
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inbox485
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Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2009 11:46 pm |
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J.A.G. wrote:
Wow... very interesting incident. If cops are being taught to shoot first, ask questions later, then they are not getting very good training. He shoots the man 6 times, and the guy lives to tell about it? That's some pretty lousy shooting if you ask me.
I don't think we are getting all the facts (as usual), so it is really hard to say what the hell happened.
Both issues trace back to the officer being a rookie. Shouldn't have been first through the door.
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CA_Libertarian wrote: chewy352 wrote: To avoid this situation I will be purchasing Hand and leg restraints so that I can safely holster my firearm as soon as BG is restrained.
Handcuffs work just fine. I have two pair from my private security days, and would not hesitate to handcuff an intruder (whether I am forced to shoot him or not - I'm no doctor, so every BG entering my house would get cuffed, even if they appear incapacitated).
It helps to know some restraint and handcuffing techniques; most places that do BSIS guard cert classes also offer courses in restraint/cuffing for a reasonable price.
I would definitely NOT want to go hands on with an intruder! I'm keeping my distance so I have time to shoot if they decide to try something.
+1 to you if you can keep a sharp vigil on somebody for 20 minutes waiting for police to arrive and give directions and descriptions of the situation at the same time, but I'm not, so I'd want the guy either restrained or dead ASAP.
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iownagn-gs
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 02:24 am |
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We have a very serious problem in this country with police officers. Last week on another state forum I watched You Tube videos in total disbelief the actions of many police officers violating individuals civil rights committing outright criminal acts against civilians. These officers do not get investigated justifiably, nor prosecuted for their actions and are protected by their peers, no matter what. It seems they can do no wrong. This latest incident of a man in his own home holding a thug at bay waiting for police help, is shot, not once, but SIX times "accidentally" by a cop and he is cleared of any wrongdoing. All I say is WTF!! Cops protecting cops! This country is in the toilet!   
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CA_Libertarian
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 04:41 am |
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eddyys wrote: Typical California. Just sad...
An almost identical situation occurred in AZ about a month ago.
Unfortunately, this issue isn't just in the big anti-gun states.
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eddyys
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 05:21 am |
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CA_Libertarian wrote: eddyys wrote: Typical California. Just sad...
An almost identical situation occurred in AZ about a month ago.
Unfortunately, this issue isn't just in the big anti-gun states.
I don't doubt the fact that this does occur in other states but the fact of the matter is when something like this does occur it is usually in a more populated and liberal state. Nothing more and nothing less.
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