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poothrowingape
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 09:51 pm |
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| ok since batons are banned, what about other less-lethal weapons. Tazers, stunguns, or mace.
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MudCamper
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Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 02:46 am |
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poothrowingape wrote: ok since batons are banned, what about other less-lethal weapons. Tazers, stunguns, or mace.
All legal, as well as knives.
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mjones
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Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 06:23 pm |
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MudCamper wrote: poothrowingape wrote: ok since batons are banned, what about other less-lethal weapons. Tazers, stunguns, or mace.
All legal, as well as knives.
I can't find the citation for my information on it, but if I remember correctly, Mace requires training and a license to carry in CA.
....But, Pepper Spray doesn't; and its FAR more effective anyway...
I can't find anything in CA Law that references Mace except GC 58001 and that's not what I was looking for. I wonder if the law was actually repealed.
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N6ATF
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Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 08:26 pm |
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mjones wrote:
MudCamper wrote: poothrowingape wrote: ok since batons are banned, what about other less-lethal weapons. Tazers, stunguns, or mace.
All legal, as well as knives.
I can't find the citation for my information on it, but if I remember correctly, Mace requires training and a license to carry in CA.
....But, Pepper Spray doesn't; and its FAR more effective anyway...
I can't find anything in CA Law that references Mace except GC 58001 and that's not what I was looking for. I wonder if the law was actually repealed.
It's chemical agents carried & used by security guards and PIs at work. OC/mace/pepper spray/tear gas.
http://www.bsis.ca.gov/forms_pubs/guardgd.pdf
PC 12403.5
Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a person holding a license as a private
investigator or private patrol operator issued pursuant to Chapter 11 (commencing with
Section 7500), Division 3 of the Business and Professions Code, or uniformed patrolmen
employees of a private patrol operator, may purchase, possess, or transport any tear gas
weapon, if it is used solely for defensive purposes in the course of the activity for which the
license was issued and if the person has satisfactorily completed a course of instruction
approved by the Department of Consumer Affairs in the use of tear gas.
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inbox485
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Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 07:20 pm |
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Decoligny wrote:
yelohamr wrote: Wear a tool belt and open carry a hammer.
When I fly to MO every year, I carry2 golf balls and a pair of socks in my carry on bag...along with a cane.
A nice glass paperweight works well in a sock.
A weighted sock is a billy club.
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inbox485
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Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 07:22 pm |
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mjones wrote:
MudCamper wrote: poothrowingape wrote: ok since batons are banned, what about other less-lethal weapons. Tazers, stunguns, or mace.
All legal, as well as knives.
I can't find the citation for my information on it, but if I remember correctly, Mace requires training and a license to carry in CA.
....But, Pepper Spray doesn't; and its FAR more effective anyway...
I can't find anything in CA Law that references Mace except GC 58001 and that's not what I was looking for. I wonder if the law was actually repealed.
No license for Mace/Pepper spray, but there is a per container limit for civies. Either way the stuff might fix a bad attitude (or make it worse), but it is worthless against a dedicated attack. Same for 99% of tasers.
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mjones
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Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 07:45 pm |
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inbox485 wrote: No license for Mace/Pepper spray, but there is a per container limit for civies. Either way the stuff might fix a bad attitude (or make it worse), but it is worthless against a dedicated attack. Same for 99% of tasers.
I've been on the giving end of many less-lethal alternatives including OC and Tasers. I've had them both be innefective.
The one time I was the closest to shooting someone was a guy on PCP that thought OC was a breath mint and actually laughed after multiple taser deployments.
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Decoligny
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Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 09:04 pm |
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inbox485 wrote: Decoligny wrote:
yelohamr wrote: Wear a tool belt and open carry a hammer.
When I fly to MO every year, I carry2 golf balls and a pair of socks in my carry on bag...along with a cane.
A nice glass paperweight works well in a sock.
A weighted sock is a billy club.
It is only a billy if the ball is in the sock. I was replying to a post from a guy who said he carries a couple of golf balls and a sock on board aircraft, implying that he had an improvised weapon. I was saying a glass paperweight would work better.
If a terrorist/lunatic were to attempt to take over a plane, I highly doubt that anyone would be pressing charges on anyone who drops a paperweight into a sock and then uses that "billy" to beat the terrorist unconscious.
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mjones
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Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 09:07 pm |
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Decoligny wrote: It is only a billy if the ball is in the sock. I was replying to a post from a guy who said he carries a couple of golf balls and a sock on board aircraft, implying that he had an improvised weapon. I was saying a glass paperweight would work better.
If a terrorist/lunatic were to attempt to take over a plane, I highly doubt that anyone would be pressing charges on anyone who drops a paperweight into a sock and then uses that "billy" to beat the terrorist unconscious.
I'd rip an arm off a seat if I had to!
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inbox485
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 01:05 am |
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Decoligny wrote: inbox485 wrote: Decoligny wrote:
yelohamr wrote: Wear a tool belt and open carry a hammer.
When I fly to MO every year, I carry2 golf balls and a pair of socks in my carry on bag...along with a cane.
A nice glass paperweight works well in a sock.
A weighted sock is a billy club.
It is only a billy if the ball is in the sock. I was replying to a post from a guy who said he carries a couple of golf balls and a sock on board aircraft, implying that he had an improvised weapon. I was saying a glass paperweight would work better.
If a terrorist/lunatic were to attempt to take over a plane, I highly doubt that anyone would be pressing charges on anyone who drops a paperweight into a sock and then uses that "billy" to beat the terrorist unconscious.
Quite right on the ball needing to be in the sock. I mis-read it. I thought he was saying that the golf balls were in the sock rather than with the sock.
In the vein of things you might have available on a plane, mouse balls have a steel core.
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inbox485
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 01:09 am |
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mjones wrote: Decoligny wrote: It is only a billy if the ball is in the sock. I was replying to a post from a guy who said he carries a couple of golf balls and a sock on board aircraft, implying that he had an improvised weapon. I was saying a glass paperweight would work better.
If a terrorist/lunatic were to attempt to take over a plane, I highly doubt that anyone would be pressing charges on anyone who drops a paperweight into a sock and then uses that "billy" to beat the terrorist unconscious.
I'd rip an arm off a seat if I had to!
I'd bare fist it if I had to, but the way attitudes towards hijackers has changed since 9/11, I doubt he'd be alive by the time I got to him unless I was right next to him to begin with.
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 08:36 am |
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California pretty much prohibits persons defending themselves. I can also say that weapons like this are generally outlawed. You can't order one of those, or a sword cane, for example. Gold Knuckles? Forget it. Move to Venus - weapons for self-protection are allowed there, and at other ports in the universe, if you can swing the import tax.
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CA_Libertarian
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 09:39 am |
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LadyTrojans01 wrote: California pretty much prohibits persons defending themselves. I can also say that weapons like this are generally outlawed. You can't order one of those, or a sword cane, for example. Gold Knuckles? Forget it. Move to Venus - weapons for self-protection are allowed there, and at other ports in the universe, if you can swing the import tax.
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How sly! Copy/paste word-for-word another person's post (credit to LeadLobber, page 1 of this thread), and then tack on your little URL advertisement on the end.
FYI, having the word "Torjan" in your user name might make people that much less likely to click your link... makes me think your website might contain/spread Trojans to infect computers...
(Hopefully nobody here clicks the link, and hopefully admin will delete the post and ban the IP from further posting.)
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yelohamr
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 09:22 pm |
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| Or advertising condoms.
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