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glock culture
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Posted: Fri Jan 22nd, 2010 12:39 am |
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Greetings All,
This week i have received in the mail. A PLCF from the state of PA. The process was very easy and a cost of 26 bucks and two stamps. It can be done. good luck
Correction. This is not a CCW as mentioned!
Last edited on Fri Jan 22nd, 2010 03:12 am by glock culture
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Statkowski
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Posted: Fri Jan 22nd, 2010 02:20 am |
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A point of order - it's a Pennsylvania License to Carry Firearms, not a Pennsylvania CCW.
CCW means the Carrying of Concealed Weapons; the Pa. LTCF only addresses the carrying of a "firearm" (which is either a handgun, a short-barreled rifle, or a short-barreled shotgun (the last two of which also require an ATF tax stamp), but that's a separate issue). Other "weapons" such as knives, swords, etc. are not addressed by a Pa. LTCF.
A Pa. LTCF permits one to do several things, only one of which is carrying a firearm concealed:- It permits you to carry concealed statewide.
- It permits you to open carry in Philadelphia (in the rest of the Commonwealth no LTCF is needed to open carry).
- It permits you to borrow someone else's handgun.
- It permits you to carry during a declared state of emergency.
- It permits you to carry in a vehicle (bus, train, car, whatever).
"Carry" means loaded.
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glock culture
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Posted: Fri Jan 22nd, 2010 02:50 am |
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Statkowski wrote: A point of order - it's a Pennsylvania License to Carry Firearms, not a Pennsylvania CCW.
CCW means the Carrying of Concealed Weapons; the Pa. LTCF only addresses the carrying of a "firearm" (which is either a handgun, a short-barreled rifle, or a short-barreled shotgun (the last two of which also require an ATF tax stamp), but that's a separate issue). Other "weapons" such as knives, swords, etc. are not addressed by a Pa. LTCF.
A Pa. LTCF permits one to do several things, only one of which is carrying a firearm concealed:- It permits you to carry concealed statewide.
- It permits you to open carry in Philadelphia (in the rest of the Commonwealth no LTCF is needed to open carry).
- It permits you to borrow someone else's handgun.
- It permits you to carry during a declared state of emergency.
- It permits you to carry in a vehicle (bus, train, car, whatever).
"Carry" means loaded.
Thank you very much for those clarifications. however its somewhat confusing in the first statement. Please clarify for those of us who are not as well versed.
Are you stating the LTCF does NOT alllow me to conceal carry in pa or are you saying this allows me to conceal carry in pa inaddition to the other privaliges you mentioned. thanks
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Statkowski
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Posted: Fri Jan 22nd, 2010 12:56 pm |
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A Pa. LTCF allows you to carry a concealed firearm throughout the Commonwealth in addition to all the other stuff. Since it has nothing to do with knives or other weapons, it is not a CCW.
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Mike
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Posted: Fri Jan 22nd, 2010 02:25 pm |
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Statkowski wrote: it is not a CCW.
I really think we should stop using the term CCW as short hand for a permit to conceal - presumably it means Concealed Carry Weapon - that is not a eprmit.
Gun rights organizers shold speak in clear English and not using some secret code of a secret order - our target for communication is the general public which mildly supports gun rights in theory, but does not really get it in practice because tey do not understand what we are talking about.
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ProShooter
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Posted: Sat Jan 23rd, 2010 05:08 am |
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Mike wrote: Statkowski wrote: it is not a CCW.
I really think we should stop using the term CCW as short hand for a permit to conceal - presumably it means Concealed Carry Weapon - that is not a eprmit.
Gun rights organizers shold speak in clear English and not using some secret code of a secret order - our target for communication is the general public which mildly supports gun rights in theory, but does not really get it in practice because tey do not understand what we are talking about.
CCW is actually the opposite of what people think it is. Most assume that a CCW is a permit to allow them to carry concealed. CCW actually stands for "Carrying a concealed weapon" - a crime.
For example - "The suspect was charged with Armed Robbery and CCW and is in jail awaiting trial". CCW is a weapon violation, not a permission to carry or the permit/document itself.
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Mike
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Posted: Sat Jan 23rd, 2010 05:45 pm |
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ProShooter wrote: CCW is actually the opposite of what people think it is. Most assume that a CCW is a permit to allow them to carry concealed. CCW actually stands for "Carrying a concealed weapon" - a crime.
For example - "The suspect was charged with Armed Robbery and CCW and is in jail awaiting trial". CCW is a weapon violation, not a permission to carry or the permit/document itself.
Hmm, good point!
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