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smoking357 Banned

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Posted: Wed Apr 1st, 2009 08:14 pm |
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I'm looking for the real gun crowd, the take-no-ship, 10th Amendment, Constitutionalist, open-carry, survivalist types I find back in Kentucky, Tennessee, Montana, Idaho, Alaska, etc.
I'm not looking for city-boys who only want a gun so they can stick it down their pants and walk around Wal-Mart while they wear their wife's underwear in what has to be the gayest firearm practice I've ever heard of.
I'm not finding that hard-core gun element in Central-to-South Florida. If this crowd exists that far South, I haven't seen them or their stores.
Do the folks I'm seeking even exist in Florida? I guess you can't "head for the hills" if there are no hills.
How about Jax, Tally, the Panhandle?
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Grapeshot Activist Member

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Posted: Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 12:09 am |
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smoking357 wrote: I'm looking for the real gun crowd, the take-no-ship, 10th Amendment, Constitutionalist, open-carry, survivalist types I find back in Kentucky, Tennessee, Montana, Idaho, Alaska, etc.
I'm not looking for city-boys who only want a gun so they can stick it down their pants and walk around Wal-Mart while they wear their wife's underwear in what has to be the gayest firearm practice I've ever heard of.
I'm not finding that hard-core gun element in Central-to-South Florida. If this crowd exists that far South, I haven't seen them or their stores.
Do the folks I'm seeking even exist in Florida? I guess you can't "head for the hills" if there are no hills.
How about Jax, Tally, the Panhandle?
Open carry (OC) is not legal in Florida so it is not likely that you would "see" anyone so inclined.
Yata hey
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BB62 State Researcher
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Posted: Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 05:03 am |
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Grapeshot wrote: smoking357 wrote: I'm looking for the real gun crowd, the take-no-ship, 10th Amendment, Constitutionalist, open-carry, survivalist types I find back in Kentucky, Tennessee, Montana, Idaho, Alaska, etc.
I'm not looking for city-boys who only want a gun so they can stick it down their pants and walk around Wal-Mart while they wear their wife's underwear in what has to be the gayest firearm practice I've ever heard of...
Open carry (OC) is not legal in Florida so it is not likely that you would "see" anyone so inclined...
Yep, Florida has essentially no state constitutional right to keep and bear arms any more - all Floridians are left with is privileges granted by their masters.
Besides, a privilege to CC is much better!
I suggest you pose your question to these groups, as they might be able to hook you up, or help you form such a group:
http://www.nrawol.net/links.htmlLast edited on Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 05:11 am by BB62
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timf343 Campaign Veteran

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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 03:03 am |
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My wife and I will be moving down from NH soon (next month). Not looking forward to HAVING to conceal, plus I don't have a FL permit, so with the 60 day+ backlog, I may just be forced to temporarily choose between being unarmed or becoming a criminal.
Anyway, since my purpose for OC is dual purpose (to protect myself and to educate), I might just have some t-shirts printed up. Though I must conceal my weapon from view, I don't think I'm required to conceal my weapon from "awareness", right?
Can I wear a shirt saying I'm armed?
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smoking357 Banned

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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 01:52 pm |
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Dtimf343 wrote: My wife and I will be moving down from NH soon (next month). Not looking forward to HAVING to conceal, plus I don't have a FL permit, so with the 60 day+ backlog, I may just be forced to temporarily choose between being unarmed or becoming a criminal.
Anyway, since my purpose for OC is dual purpose (to protect myself and to educate), I might just have some t-shirts printed up. Though I must conceal my weapon from view, I don't think I'm required to conceal my weapon from "awareness", right?
Can I wear a shirt saying I'm armed?
Dude, you rule.
Great f-ing idea. Let's crank up RKBA advocacy and awareness.
Careful, though, the pretend RKBA friends at floridaconcealedcarry.com will contact their politicians and cops and complain about you. They're not into firearm rights; they're only into having their hall passes so they can feel "special" and walk through Wal-Mart with a gun in their panties.
Stay in NH. It's cleaner, nicer and feels more like America. Long term, you'll be happier there. Florida feels like Southern New York with all the accents. Some people have guns, but they don't get so far into it as to make Bubby feel uncomfortable.
Here are some draft slogans:
The Law Says My Gun Has to Be Concealed
I'd Rather Carry Openly
The Gun I'm Carrying is only Concealed
Because the Law Says It Has To Be
My Gun is Concealed Under Protest
opencarry.org
Does My Conealed Firearm Make You Uncomfortable?
Can You Spot My Concealed Firearm?
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tracylaud83 Regular Member

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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 05:10 pm |
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I'll buy 2 if under $15.00 each
Any of these slogans would work......
Just don't make them pink.....
Last edited on Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 05:11 pm by tracylaud83
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timf343 Campaign Veteran

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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 07:50 pm |
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Looks like someone had this idea for Texas:
http://www.zazzle.com/texas_concealed_carry_2_yes_i_am_tshirt-235974956335065349
You can customize the T-Shirt to whatever you want, or make your own from scratch.
There is a comment saying that (at least in Texas) wearing this shirt would result in you being charged with failing to conceal.
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DrTodd Regular Member

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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 09:02 pm |
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You could purchase one of these shirts too.
http://www.coated.com/duck-huntin-t-shirt/
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Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 04:26 am |
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Smoking,
Check out everglades city. There are some interesting characters there.
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Eagle Eye Regular Member

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Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 01:34 pm |
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| Smoking357 I've read a large number of your posts and I agree with a lot of what you have to say. There are however a couple items of interest I would like to address. One you do not list where you are located. It's not a big deal just an observation. It has little bearing on your platitudes but still a significant one. Folks on here have labeled you as a troll but I welcome a good discussion, emphasis on good. You do make you points in a very condescending way. Your enthusiasm is very commendable as all of us should be reaching for that ultimate goal of being able to carry any way we wish as long as we are responsible and respectful to all those around us. We don't not have a "constitutional right" to not be offended. It would be a great asset to us all to use your energy in a more positive manner to educate all folks in what we all strive to do. That includes folks on these forums and their ideas. I for one have learned a lot of very useful information from people and links to state statutes. I have gone to other states and open carried and like the fact that I could carry that way. Obviously we are limited in ways to carry in other places due to the "anti's" passing laws. But I believe with you energy and enthusiasm we all could get something going in Florida. It was said in the past "United we stand divided we fall". I for one will support a righteous idea as long as it is legal. We have a a duty to elect people to government which upholds the laws or is willing to introduce and follow through with those bills. That's a whole other issue though. <rant off> I commend you for your efforts but I also remember what mama used to say. "It's not what you say it's how you say it" and that is the the key to opening people's ears, minds and hearts. Keep up the effort but also walk softly and carry a big stick.
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hammer6 Regular Member

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Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 08:51 pm |
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smoking357 wrote: I'm looking for the real gun crowd, the take-no-ship, 10th Amendment, Constitutionalist, open-carry, survivalist types I find back in Kentucky, Tennessee, Montana, Idaho, Alaska, etc.
I'm not looking for city-boys who only want a gun so they can stick it down their pants and walk around Wal-Mart while they wear their wife's underwear in what has to be the gayest firearm practice I've ever heard of.
I'm not finding that hard-core gun element in Central-to-South Florida. If this crowd exists that far South, I haven't seen them or their stores.
Do the folks I'm seeking even exist in Florida? I guess you can't "head for the hills" if there are no hills.
How about Jax, Tally, the Panhandle?
have you been to wal-mart lately?
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smoking357 Banned

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Posted: Tue Apr 7th, 2009 04:54 pm |
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Eagle Eye wrote: I commend you for your efforts but I also remember what mama used to say. "It's not what you say it's how you say it"
Outside of jovial banter, I've never agreed with that.
For words that matter, It's always what you say.
While Momma is great, women listen in tones.
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BB62 State Researcher
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Posted: Wed Apr 8th, 2009 03:06 pm |
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Eagle Eye wrote: Smoking357 I've read a large number of your posts and I agree with a lot of what you have to say. There are however a couple items of interest I would like to address...
One suggestion - paragraphs.
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smoking357 Banned

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Posted: Wed Apr 8th, 2009 03:26 pm |
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BB62 wrote: Eagle Eye wrote: Smoking357 I've read a large number of your posts and I agree with a lot of what you have to say. There are however a couple items of interest I would like to address...
One suggestion - paragraphs.
Indeed, you are correct, but if they bemoan condescension in my laconic informational nuggets, they'll plead high complaint if my prose becomes yet more formal. You, obviously, are cut from finer cloth.
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Grapeshot Activist Member

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Posted: Wed Apr 8th, 2009 04:38 pm |
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smoking357 wrote: BB62 wrote: Eagle Eye wrote: Smoking357 I've read a large number of your posts and I agree with a lot of what you have to say. There are however a couple items of interest I would like to address...
One suggestion - paragraphs.
Indeed, you are correct, but if they bemoan condescension in my laconic informational nuggets, they'll plead high complaint if my prose becomes yet more formal. You, obviously, are cut from finer cloth.
It is less to do with that in which we cloak ourselves and more pertaining to the quality of our humble musings.
So speak up brother, don't mumble. 
Yata hey
Last edited on Wed Apr 8th, 2009 04:38 pm by Grapeshot
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sprat Regular Member

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Posted: Sat Apr 11th, 2009 07:27 pm |
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He still won't tell you where in Florida he lives, this guy is a clown he has been banned from other sites, watch who you suck up to and be very leary of his advise
he has been asked on other sites as to his residence and still refuses to answer, he is a fraud
enough said
sprat
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smoking357 Banned

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Posted: Sun Apr 12th, 2009 12:42 am |
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sprat wrote:
He still won't tell you where in Florida he lives, this guy is a clown he has been banned from other sites, watch who you suck up to and be very leary of his advise
he has been asked on other sites as to his residence and still refuses to answer, he is a fraud
enough said
sprat
Learn how to spell, Sarah.
Why do you anti-gunners waste your time spreading disinformation here? No, thanks, Sarah. I'll choose Freedom, Liberty, and the Second Amendment, and I'll continue to defend gun rights, despite the lies of your anti-gun front
group.
Sprat goes 'splat'...again.
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starbuck Regular Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 15th, 2009 06:31 pm |
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sprat wrote:
he has been asked on other sites as to his residence and still refuses to answer, he is a fraud
enough said
sprat
I'm not going to tell you where I live either. Am I a fraud as well?
While I don't agree with everything he says, I find his "kick in the ass" rhetoric to stir people from complacency to be commendable.
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Posted: Wed Apr 15th, 2009 06:34 pm |
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timf343 wrote: My wife and I will be moving down from NH soon (next month). Not looking forward to HAVING to conceal, plus I don't have a FL permit, so with the 60 day+ backlog, I may just be forced to temporarily choose between being unarmed or becoming a criminal.
Anyway, since my purpose for OC is dual purpose (to protect myself and to educate), I might just have some t-shirts printed up. Though I must conceal my weapon from view, I don't think I'm required to conceal my weapon from "awareness", right?
Can I wear a shirt saying I'm armed?
What is bringing you down here? Other than not being arctic, I can't imagine Florida being a better place to live than NH.
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timf343 Campaign Veteran

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Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 11:52 pm |
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Asking myself the same question, the more I read and research 
Looks like my wife wants to go back to Nevada after all, so Florida gets put on hold for now.
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