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smoking357
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Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 06:59 pm |
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JeepSeller wrote: I rest my case. This nutcase won't even respond to valid arguments or challenges. All he wants to do is spill whatever garb he's plagiarizing and continue to spout his anti-American rhetoric.
Dude, haven't you noticed a significant void of anyone actually BACKING you up? Wonder why that is. Are you the only TRUE American in all the forums you've been? I guess, by you logic, everyone here on this forum is not a TRUE American, right? They're not agreeing with you, that makes them un-American according to you..right? My guess is that you are all alone in your beliefs and there must be some flaw in your theories for NO ONE to back you...even among SEVERAL forums.. Again, an intelligent person would have figured this out by now.
As I say, you are a fraud who's only goal is to stimulate conflict and reaction.
We've all seen he's a fraud. His rhetoric no longer has any bite to it. Several people have debunked his misguided theories. We've done our job here.
Again, thanks for playing. I've actually enjoyed it.
Stop by keepandbeararms.com, every day, and see what the real gun patriots are saying and thinking. Take a look at some of the heavy lifting Alan Gottlieb is doing for free-riders like you. As far as company, quit looking for a crowd to follow, and start thinking for yourself. Know this: the dumb American pickup-driving, cop-loving, soldier-sniffing, gun owner is getting his hat handed to him by his opponents. Ironically, you oppose that narrow group of gun owners that gives you the ammunition to repel your attackers. Your fellow travelers on "that forum" openly mocked my reference to natural law, ignorant that the existence of such law formed the basis for our victory in Heller.
Gun owners will not survive as a powerful political bloc if they are seen as dumb, old, bitter white guys who love police, war, and are really uncool.
Unless you smarten up and learn what the game is, you will eventually lose, supporting the means of your own destruction, all the way down.
"Plagiarizing?" Dear God. It's out, at last. What's really eating you is that you're furious at being an intellectual inferior. Admit it. You hate my "attitude," because you've gone through life hating people like me.
Get out of the way of those who are fighting your battles for you.
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smoking357
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Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 07:06 pm |
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OneInThePipe wrote: I think it is time for the moderators to step in and ban this nutcase.
You want the cops to attack me; you search far and wide to learn my identity and location, and now, you want the forum to attack me. Do you realize how enraged, scary and violent you appear?
If you're so right, make a compelling legal argument, and achieve victory with your mind. I will gladly agree with your position if you have legal authority in hand. Your lament is simply that you don't like what I say, and you have no means of refutation, so you're looking for someone else to help you "win."
Madison and Jefferson would have spurned you.
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OneInThePipe
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Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 07:12 pm |
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smoking357 wrote: OneInThePipe wrote: I think it is time for the moderators to step in and ban this nutcase.
You want the cops to attack me; you search far and wide to learn my identity and location, and now, you want the forum to attack me. Do you realize how enraged, scary and violent you appear?
If you're so right, make a compelling legal argument, and achieve victory with your mind. I will gladly agree with your position if you have legal authority in hand. Your lament is simply that you don't like what I say, and you have no means of refutation, so you're looking for someone else to help you "win."
Madison and Jefferson would have spurned you.
I simply voiced my opinion which like all the other opinions here that differ from yous seems to not be allowed by you.
I don't want the cops to attack you or for someone else to help me "win".
I just want you to stop advocating illegal activities as I feel you are doing more harm than good for our cause.
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HankT
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Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 07:41 pm |
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smoking357 wrote: Anyway, good thing I'm "official" after issuing myself my license.
"Next. You, #357, you're next!"
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acrimsontide
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Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 08:08 pm |
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smoking357 wrote: When you pass a few more college classes, you'll learn that what the cops think is far from necessarily being the law.
You Liberals are so disappointing. From what low ranks do you hail that you
seek validation from the government? What socialistic place has formed you into a person who asks the government's permission prior to action and seeks the state's approval for your conduct? Pro-authoritariansim and anti-individual is as Leftists as it gets.
Your worldview is anathema to Americanism. Stop being a Commie.
Anyway, good thing I'm "official" after issuing myself my license.
OK, Ye of so much knowledge. Based on your comment above, why "issue yourself a license"? Obviously you feel you need some permission from the "government" or you would not have applied for a license in the first place for which you are now claiming default. Why did you apply for a CWL? I guess you did "ask permission" didn't you? Now since you didn't get your answer, you will be a big dog and "issue your own license".
Every post that you make is just to create an argument so you are achieving your goal. Your advice is dangerous to anyone who would heed it and your calling people communist, or liberal, or leftist is ridiculous. IF you are such a patriot, (at least of your own defintiion of one) then why not prove your cause. Go stand on the capital steps with your firearm openly displayed. That will get you arrested, provide you with publicity as the media will be all over it, and get you an audience in front of a judge and 12 of your fellow Americans. Then you can go through the entire legal process, maybe all the wat to the Florida Supreme Court or higher. Then we will have an answer to the legality of your position. Isn't it worth this sacrifice for your cause? But you won't do that will you? You had rather spout your BS over an internet forum than to take a real stand on an issue that you so strongly believe in. I think you should change your internet handle from smoking357, to smokescreenbs, it would more fit with all of your words of "wisdom".
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JeepSeller
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Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 08:40 pm |
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We're talking about a guy who picked a fight with the folks over at trapshooters.com about the color of "traps".... Come-on folks. He's a troll!
His spew is copied from authors even he's mentioned. Very little of his garb is his own words. And it's easy to tell which is his own thoughts and those that he's stolen off the web.
He's so transparent, it's almost too easy. 10 seconds with Google and you can have his number.
The jig is up dude. You've been exposed as the fraud you are. Give up already. No one believes you. You hide behind the anonymity of the Internet, and thrive on controversy, but, when challenged to actually stand up for your views, you take the cowardly approach by either completely ignoring those requests or futily attempting to turn the tables on your opponents by attacking their "patriotism".
You're done. Take your anti-American beliefs somewhere else. No one here is buying the junk you're selling.
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smoking357
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Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 08:51 pm |
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acrimsontide wrote:
OK, Ye of so much knowledge. Based on your comment above, why "issue yourself a license"?
Because it really honks off the Nazis.
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smoking357
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Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 08:59 pm |
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JeepSeller wrote:
We're talking about a guy who picked a fight with the folks over at trapshooters.com about the color of "traps".
Not traps, moron, targets. The "trap" stays in the house. The "target" comes out. Do you ever go shooting? Too bad for you that Jacksonville Gun Club and Amelia island are so expensive. when I stopped in JGC, a few days ago, I saw that a round was $9.40. OUCH! That's like twice the price it should be.
I just can't see those black-edged targets that well. Some like them and don't want anyone messin' up their good thing. To each his own, but I need the solid orange. I guess that's why they make lots of varieties. I can't wait to try green targets.
Unlike you, I'm tolerant of variety and a difference of opinion.
Last edited on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 09:00 pm by smoking357
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acrimsontide
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Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 11:55 pm |
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Smoking357 aka smokescreenbs
What is the date and time that you will be standing up for your rights by openly carrying on the capital steps. That would be the American thing to do, right?
Don't go off topic on the color of targets, we want you focused on your rights.
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JeepSeller
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 12:17 am |
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I'm the one that took him off topic on the color of targets. I was merely pointing out more evidence that this guy is only out to create conflict. AKA a troll! The boy can't even talk about shooting clay targets without getting folks all up in a fuss.
Sorry, I should have known better. Some people's trains of thought are just easier to derail than others. 
Last edited on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 12:17 am by JeepSeller
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 12:20 am |
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Seriously, smokescreen, what time and day do you plan to go to the capital steps and start waving your gun around in defiance of the "system".
I have some business I've been putting off up that way, I'd like to see that.
Now I know who this guy reminds me of....anyone remember or heard of MallNinja? Google it one day when you have some time and really need a good laugh.
What we've got here is "carry-ninja" .... noo..."Default-Ninja!!!"
Last edited on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 12:24 am by JeepSeller
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OneInThePipe
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 12:25 am |
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JeepSeller wrote: I'm the one that took him off topic on the color of targets. I was merely pointing out more evidence that this guy is only out to create conflict. AKA a troll! The boy can't even talk about shooting clay targets without getting folks all up in a fuss.
Sorry, I should have known better. Some people's trains of thought are just easier to derail than others.
Shame on you. 
Stay focused on the goal - when will smoking357 stop his diatribe and take action on his beliefs.
He has two challenges now:
- CC and approach the nearest LEO. Show him your weapon and explain his default license.
- Carry OC on the capital steps and talk to the new media about his right to open carry.
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 12:45 am |
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OneInThePipe wrote: JeepSeller wrote: I'm the one that took him off topic on the color of targets. I was merely pointing out more evidence that this guy is only out to create conflict. AKA a troll! The boy can't even talk about shooting clay targets without getting folks all up in a fuss.
Sorry, I should have known better. Some people's trains of thought are just easier to derail than others.
Shame on you.
Stay focused on the goal - when will smoking357 stop his diatribe and take action on his beliefs.
He has two challenges now:
- CC and approach the nearest LEO. Show him your weapon and explain his default license.
- Carry OC on the capital steps and talk to the new media about his right to open carry.
I think we're putting too much on the boy. How about if we let him choose just one?
Either way, we get to see a show, right? 
Last edited on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 12:46 am by JeepSeller
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 12:51 am |
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JeepSeller wrote: I'm the one that took him off topic on the color of targets. I was merely pointing out more evidence that this guy is only out to create conflict. AKA a troll! The boy can't even talk about shooting clay targets without getting folks all up in a fuss.
Sorry, I should have known better. Some people's trains of thought are just easier to derail than others.
Ah, no problem. I'm sure he wants to change the subject anyway!!! It's starting to be fun watching him evade the issue that he is calling the rest of us un American over and that's to stand up for his rights. I'm sure we can all think of places in Florida that he can go to get noticed and persue his course of action. Maybe an afternoon at Disney World with his gun on his hip, possibly a walk on a crowded beach, shopping trip to the mall etc. Heck if he goes the capital steps route or a day at Disney, he might even get mentioned by Katie Couric on CBS, that would give him a good start on his publicity. Letterman might even work it into his opening routine.
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smoking357
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 01:22 am |
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OneInThePipe wrote:
I simply voiced my opinion which like all the other opinions here that differ from yous seems to not be allowed by you.
I don't want the cops to attack you or for someone else to help me "win".
I just want you to stop advocating illegal activities as I feel you are doing more harm than good for our cause.
You have no cause. Never have. Never will. It ain't in you.
And quit lying, saying that I'm advocating anyone follow my footsteps. I'll take the lead, though you and your ilk will surely follow if you see someone has blazed the trail for you.
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OneInThePipe
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 01:30 am |
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smoking357 wrote: OneInThePipe wrote:
I simply voiced my opinion which like all the other opinions here that differ from yous seems to not be allowed by you.
I don't want the cops to attack you or for someone else to help me "win".
I just want you to stop advocating illegal activities as I feel you are doing more harm than good for our cause.
You have no cause. Never have. Never will. It ain't in you.
And quit lying, saying that I'm advocating anyone follow my footsteps. I'll take the lead, though you and your ilk will surely follow if you see someone has blazed the trail for you.
So when are you going to take the lead?
Stop the rhetoric and take up either of the two challenges that have been put before you.
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 01:42 am |
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Okay, this is starting to get old. What bothers me more than smokin357 running his mouth about things he obviously has no clue about is the fact that this site has admin and moderators. I may get banned from this site for talking negatively about them but I can not believe that someone comes to this site bashing everyone on the forum and giving this site a bad name and rather than ejecting one person for their crap, they would risk loosing many of their 8,000 plus members they have.
According to the forum rules, it states "the press and general public do read our postings" and the crap that smokin357 is saying is what this site wants the press to see????
The forum rules also state " While you may disagree strongly with another poster based upon their opinion, we will NOT tolerate any personal attacks ". Personal attacks is all this joker has posted.
Next rule up "(7) If you state a rule of law, it is incumbant upon you to try to cite, as best you can, to authority. Citing to authority, using links when avaiable, is what makes OCDO so successful.". This guy talks about 1 statute. 120.60 which talks about a default license but it has already been posted that you can not just issue yourself a license. So how does smokin357 spewing crap make OCDO so successful??? Just my .02
BAN THE  ALREADY
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 01:49 am |
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Glock23-4-Me wrote: Okay, this is starting to get old. What bothers me more than smokin357 running his mouth about things he obviously has no clue about is the fact that this site has admin and moderators. I may get banned from this site for talking negatively about them but I can not believe that someone comes to this site bashing everyone on the forum and giving this site a bad name and rather than ejecting one person for their crap, they would risk loosing many of their 8,000 plus members they have.
According to the forum rules, it states "the press and general public do read our postings" and the crap that smokin357 is saying is what this site wants the press to see????
The forum rules also state " While you may disagree strongly with another poster based upon their opinion, we will NOT tolerate any personal attacks ". Personal attacks is all this joker has posted.
Next rule up "(7) If you state a rule of law, it is incumbant upon you to try to cite, as best you can, to authority. Citing to authority, using links when avaiable, is what makes OCDO so successful.". This guy talks about 1 statute. 120.60 which talks about a default license but it has already been posted that you can not just issue yourself a license. So how does smokin357 spewing crap make OCDO so successful??? Just my .02
BAN THE ALREADY
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Well said.
Shall we take a vote?
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Glock23-4-Me
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 01:54 am |
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It may be worth a shot but if the mod are not willing to ban him based on his b.s. alone, why would they listen to how we feel about him?
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