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GIdeon_70
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Posted: Mon Oct 26th, 2009 06:18 am |
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Why do you want to open carry?
I plan to write all of Florida's reps, and try to get a dialog going, so I would like to hear from you first, about why you would prefer to carry openly.
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NavyLT
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Posted: Mon Oct 26th, 2009 09:59 pm |
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GIdeon_70 wrote: Why do you want to open carry?
I plan to write all of Florida's reps, and try to get a dialog going, so I would like to hear from you first, about why you would prefer to carry openly.
1. Open carry without a license required would be more consistent with the US Constitiution.
2. Open carry is a detterent to crime. It shows criminals who NOT to pick as a target.
3. It lets police know where the guns are on sight. Ask any cop if they would rather see a holstered gun being carried openly by a much-more-than-likely law abiding citizen, or if they would rather find and be surprised by a concealed firearm. Criminals don't carry their guns openly in holsters, by the way.
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hammer6
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Posted: Tue Oct 27th, 2009 03:16 am |
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umm- it's much more comfortable to open carry. i bought a ruger lcp for the fact that its pretty much impossible to carry my XD40 on a daily basis with the things that i do, and with the clothes i wear. if i were allowed to open carry, there wouldn't be a problem.
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HankT
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Posted: Tue Oct 27th, 2009 03:49 am |
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GIdeon_70 wrote: Why do you want to open carry?
I plan to write all of Florida's reps, and try to get a dialog going, so I would like to hear from you first, about why you would prefer to carry openly.
Excellent question. For an excellent purpose.
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fridaddy
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Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 11:24 pm |
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In the summer when its shorts and t shirts in FL Concealed means under my shirt sweating on the gun and a peice of metal pressed against my skin.
The Second amendment says I have a right to bear arms.
It is a lot easier to get too if I need it.
The people who use guns the most carry theirs openly, I should be allowed to as well. The people who work for me carry openly, but I can't?
It prevents issues when I do carry concealed like printing or inadvertent showing, from resulting in criminal charges for open carry or brandishing.
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ABNinfantryman
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Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 04:12 am |
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I am very cautious about open carry, not because I lack confidence in myself, but because I lack confidence in others. In my profession there are those who handle weapons all of the time and there are those who simply carry it around because they have to or "just in case." These same people are the ones who shoot themselves with M9 Berettas because they don't know how to clear the weapon properly or don't practice with it. The same people who shoot each other in the throat because they didn't clear their weapon prior to breaking the weapon down for cleaning. The same people who half c0ck a machine gun so the sear wears down and causes a runaway gun or discharges when someone attempts to clear the gun. Ever had a .308 round go off in your face in a 5x5x6 cement guard tower after you lift the feed tray to clear the weapon? It ain't cool. If I can't trust fellow US military with their weapons, why should I trust the civilian populace with their's? I'm not worried so much about crime, I'm worried about that idiot who bought his weapon for protection or to look cool and never practicing with it or learning anything about how it works.
With that said, I'm for open carry because the law is not meant to make me feel safer about the possible stupidity of others, but to protect my inherent rights, and their's even if I'm not comfortable around them. The government has no business telling me that I can not defend myself, nor can it tell me how I can defend myself. My method of self defense should be left to me to decide what I feel comfortable with. If I'd rather not broadcast that I'm carrying, I should be able to conceal, if I want to broadcast that I'm carrying as a deterrent from having to even draw the weapon, I should be able to. Just because you don't like something I do doesn't give you the right to tell me I can't do it, period.
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NavyLT
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Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 06:21 am |
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ABNinfantryman wrote: If I can't trust fellow US military with their weapons, why should I trust the civilian populace with their's?
You shouldn't trust the civilian populace with their weapons. However, that is no reason to infringe upon their rights to self defense by requiring them to pass a training course or pay for a permit. It is one of the risks of freedom that we must accept in order to maintain that freedom.
Heck, in Iraq I had to load a Chief Petty Officer's (E-7) M9 magazines for him because he kept trying to put the rounds in backwards, but that in no way negates his right to self defense should he choose to arm himself as a civilian.
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Japle
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 01:06 am |
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Open carry without a license is, without a doubt, consistent with the US Constitiution.
It's not so much that I want to open carry, I want my right to open carry recognized by state and federal law.
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GIdeon_70
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 01:13 am |
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Congress is debating (for three hours) the health care bill soon, and everyone needs to worry. The bill has provisions to identify "Dangerous lifestyles and activities," and I can assure you that owning a firearm will be one of them. It will not be an issue of open vs. concealed carry, it will be, "Do I have enough money to afford the increase in insurance premiums that go long with owning a firearm."
Call your congressman and senator now, before it's too late.
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ABNinfantryman
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 02:31 am |
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NavyLT wrote: ABNinfantryman wrote: If I can't trust fellow US military with their weapons, why should I trust the civilian populace with their's?
You shouldn't trust the civilian populace with their weapons. However, that is no reason to infringe upon their rights to self defense by requiring them to pass a training course or pay for a permit. It is one of the risks of freedom that we must accept in order to maintain that freedom.
Heck, in Iraq I had to load a Chief Petty Officer's (E-7) M9 magazines for him because he kept trying to put the rounds in backwards, but that in no way negates his right to self defense should he choose to arm himself as a civilian.
Try reading the rest of the post before responding.
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NavyLT
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 03:25 am |
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ABNinfantryman wrote: NavyLT wrote: ABNinfantryman wrote: If I can't trust fellow US military with their weapons, why should I trust the civilian populace with their's?
You shouldn't trust the civilian populace with their weapons. However, that is no reason to infringe upon their rights to self defense by requiring them to pass a training course or pay for a permit. It is one of the risks of freedom that we must accept in order to maintain that freedom.
Heck, in Iraq I had to load a Chief Petty Officer's (E-7) M9 magazines for him because he kept trying to put the rounds in backwards, but that in no way negates his right to self defense should he choose to arm himself as a civilian.
Try reading the rest of the post before responding.
I did.
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ABNinfantryman
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Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2009 03:39 am |
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NavyLT wrote: ABNinfantryman wrote: NavyLT wrote: You shouldn't trust the civilian populace with their weapons. However, that is no reason to infringe upon their rights to self defense by requiring them to pass a training course or pay for a permit. It is one of the risks of freedom that we must accept in order to maintain that freedom.
Heck, in Iraq I had to load a Chief Petty Officer's (E-7) M9 magazines for him because he kept trying to put the rounds in backwards, but that in no way negates his right to self defense should he choose to arm himself as a civilian.
Try reading the rest of the post before responding.
I did.
Where did I say they should pass a training course or pay for a permit in this:
With that said, I'm for open carry because the law is not meant to make me feel safer about the possible stupidity of others, but to protect my inherent rights, and their's even if I'm not comfortable around them. The government has no business telling me that I can not defend myself, nor can it tell me how I can defend myself. My method of self defense should be left to me to decide what I feel comfortable with. If I'd rather not broadcast that I'm carrying, I should be able to conceal, if I want to broadcast that I'm carrying as a deterrent from having to even draw the weapon, I should be able to. Just because you don't like something I do doesn't give you the right to tell me I can't do it, period.
I didn't, so at what point did you read the rest of the post? Jeez, Navy can't shoot and can't read either. 
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NavyLT
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Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2009 05:12 am |
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Ummmm, Where exactly in my post did I claim that you did say anything like that?
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