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jbeck
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 Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 09:58 pm
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So my daughter turned five.  She's been asking to have her ears pierced.  Where I live the options are Wal-mart or the mall.  So I decided on the mall for a larger selection of earrings.  My boyfriend (who also OC) and I take her to Claire's at the Valdosta mall.  My daughter decides to use the restroom which is located diretly in front of the mall office.  The secretary behind the desk, behind glass walls that are electronically locked actually got up from her desk with a worried look and retreated:D.  We actually made it all the way to Claire's and had my daughter in the chair.  The employees didn't seem to mind.  Then suddenly we are pounced by a greying fat mall cop and a short and too pudgy woman.  They ask us first if we are law enforcement.  After answering no, they tell us to leave.  Then proceed to escort us out.  That will be the last time my boyfriend or I shop at the Valdosta mall.

However, being as I am a woman, and hell hath no fury like a scorned woman, I have decided to take it a step further.  I make a healthy living and spend a good bit of money.  I also have time on my hands.  So I have decided that every time I am out shopping or need something that I would have gotten from the mall I am going to send a letter.  Will simply say "Today I would have spent 'x' amount of dollars with your company; I did not because your mall does not allow me to carry firearms to protect myself and those with me, and the 'security' you provide are barely equipped to break up a fight between two 15 year olds.  When your company changes their policy, I will begin spending again.  Total amount not spent with your company since April 1, 2008:   ___x__".   Petty? Perhaps.  Fun?  Absolutely!!1:celebrate

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 Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 10:42 pm
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Good grief, that is pretty stupid.  I'll remember never to visit Valdosta malls.
What is even more amusing is that the security folks got in a panic for not just cause.

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 Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 10:38 pm
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jbeck wrote: So I have decided that every time I am out shopping or need something that I would have gotten from the mall I am going to send a letter.  Will simply say "Today I would have spent 'x' amount of dollars with your company; I did not because your mall does not allow me to carry firearms to protect myself and those with me, and the 'security' you provide are barely equipped to break up a fight between two 15 year olds.  When your company changes their policy, I will begin spending again.  Total amount not spent with your company since April 1, 2008:   ___x__".   Petty? Perhaps.  Fun?  Absolutely!!1:celebrate


Petty?  No, way!  That is exactly what you should do!  :D  Let them know that there decision costs them money.  Better yet, let them know how much!

I think what you are doing is great.

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 Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 10:41 pm
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That goes for any chain stores.  If for example someone has issues with 'Target', then we can all write to the manage of our local stores and say that we no longer will frequent the chain.  So it'll not be a removal of one person, but a few hundred thousand lawful firearms licensed individuals.

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 Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 11:40 pm
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That would b great but how many people would actually have the gumption to not shop at all the places we had problems with?

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 Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 11:58 pm
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i wouldn't have a problem.  just shop elsewhere.

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 Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 03:41 pm
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I am not a big mall fan myself, but I have not found one mall yet that does not have a no weapons policy.

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 Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 06:24 pm
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Great idea! I would also suggest sending a copy of each letter to the manager of whichever store(s) in the mall sells merchandise similar to what you just purchased elsewhere. This is important, because it is the store(s) that are actually losing business because of the mall's policy and they can put pressure on the mall management to change their policy.

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 Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 12:31 am
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jbeck wrote: So my daughter turned five.  She's been asking to have her ears pierced.  Where I live the options are Wal-mart or the mall.  So I decided on the mall for a larger selection of earrings.  My boyfriend (who also OC) and I take her to Claire's at the Valdosta mall.  My daughter decides to use the restroom which is located diretly in front of the mall office.  The secretary behind the desk, behind glass walls that are electronically locked actually got up from her desk with a worried look and retreated:D.  We actually made it all the way to Claire's and had my daughter in the chair.  The employees didn't seem to mind.  Then suddenly we are pounced by a greying fat mall cop and a short and too pudgy woman.  They ask us first if we are law enforcement.  After answering no, they tell us to leave.  Then proceed to escort us out.  That will be the last time my boyfriend or I shop at the Valdosta mall.

However, being as I am a woman, and hell hath no fury like a scorned woman, I have decided to take it a step further.  I make a healthy living and spend a good bit of money.  I also have time on my hands.  So I have decided that every time I am out shopping or need something that I would have gotten from the mall I am going to send a letter.  Will simply say "Today I would have spent 'x' amount of dollars with your company; I did not because your mall does not allow me to carry firearms to protect myself and those with me, and the 'security' you provide are barely equipped to break up a fight between two 15 year olds.  When your company changes their policy, I will begin spending again.  Total amount not spent with your company since April 1, 2008:   ___x__".   Petty? Perhaps.  Fun?  Absolutely!!1:celebrate



i'm no woman but that sounds like something i would do. heck yes.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 24th, 2009 06:59 am
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Sounds like a good use of the mail merge feature of a spreadsheet program :-)

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 Posted: Sat Apr 25th, 2009 08:39 am
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jbeck wroteHowever, being as I am a woman, and hell hath no fury like a scorned woman, I have decided to take it a step further.  I make a healthy living and spend a good bit of money.  I also have time on my hands.  So I have decided that every time I am out shopping or need something that I would have gotten from the mall I am going to send a letter.  Will simply say "Today I would have spent 'x' amount of dollars with your company; I did not because your mall does not allow me to carry firearms to protect myself and those with me, and the 'security' you provide are barely equipped to break up a fight between two 15 year olds.  When your company changes their policy, I will begin spending again.  Total amount not spent with your company since April 1, 2008:   ___x__".   Petty? Perhaps.  Fun?  Absolutely!!1:celebrate

That is an absolutely brilliant idea!! I hope you don't mind if I steal that idea and use it myself, if this circumstance ever arises. So far I have been lucky enough that no one (store) has asked me to leave anywhere, except my bank, and right now I need them so I have decided to capitulate for now. But I live in Idaho and I think people are more used to the idea of OC'ing here. When I no longer need this particular bank and decide to find a new one, I fully intend to send them a letter letting them know that the reason I am changing banks is because of their policy.

I also agree with the person who said send those letters to the stores themselves, they are the ones losing money. They still have to pay the same rent for their space regardless of whether they have a lot of customers or only a few, so when they lose business it hurts THEIR bottom line, not the mall's.

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 Posted: Sat Apr 25th, 2009 10:02 am
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jbeck wrote: That would b great but how many people would actually have the gumption to not shop at all the places we had problems with?
I do! Several of our Tucson Malls are owned by GGP of Chicago. Therefore mall entrances are posted "No Weapons".

So I don't shop at those malls.

Adjoining Sears, Macy's, Dillards, Borders establishments are not posted and I've OC in those places numerous times without incident.

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 Posted: Tue Apr 28th, 2009 01:53 am
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You could even send in a copy of your receipt from the other store, blanking out the name of the item you bought if it's a privacy matter.  That way there is more authenticity to your claim.  Save up a bunch of them and send in a big pile of receipts.

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 Posted: Tue Apr 28th, 2009 07:14 pm
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GGP's a bunch of crooks! I try to  stay out of their mall here in Savannah.. Rather go to the other mall and it's bigger!


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