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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 08:07 pm |
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A Hero??? Yay!
Does this mean I get to put on a cape and underwear and fly arround the room? 
Sorry for the mental immage
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Patriot
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 08:10 pm |
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Lockman,
That was not the senator, and while I may not agree with what he said completely, we should all take the concept to heart.
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Sa45auto
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 08:12 pm |
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Patriot wrote: A Hero??? Yay!
Does this mean I get to put on a cape and underwear and fly arround the room?
Sorry for the mental immage
You may........If you can. 
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Sa45auto
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 08:15 pm |
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lockman wrote: So what did the senator just say? Exercise your rights, but if confronted about it back down for the common good?
What was that motto again? A right not exercised is a right _____?
My take on what he said is that it is good to exercise our rights, but, as in all things, we should show restraint and realize that there are consequences for all of our actions.
There are a lot of things I can do but chose not to, because I care more for the greater good than I do for my own gratification.
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hitbackfirst
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 08:21 pm |
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No offense to Alphamike, but I cannot support the argument of "Don't exercise your rights or they may be taken from you." It is keeping our rights low profile so as not to attract attention rather than openly exercising them that allows those rights to be swept away with little or no opposition.
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 08:52 pm |
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Alphamike wrote: Besides making my job as an advocate for firearms freedoms more difficult, public OC "because I can" carries the very real risk that we could lose hard won ground in the form of more restrictions on CCW. The legislature apparently cannot regulate OC but they definitely CAN regulate CCW, which I would submit is a lot more important to the personal security of the vast majority of gun owners.
I don’t have time to engage in public debate or flame wars over this. If anyone has any reasonable questions you may PM me.
I applaud you for being an advocate in the minority, and truly thank you for what you are doing for gun rights. However I worry that the above bolded statement reflects a modern and all to common fear of something that is un-regulatable through legislation. (The old "what law says you can do that?" mentality.)
CC is a privilege while OC is a right. Currently it is seen that CC is the norm and OC is and should be the exception at a time and place deemed appropriate. I completely disagree and feel that it should be the exact opposite! I believe that OC should be the norm and CC should be the exception when appropriate (in a suit, at church, etc).
Perhaps our advocates are voicing themselves too loudly for the wrong thing? CC is a privilege that gives the approving authority control to take it away. Control. Gun Control. The one time I CC'ed in Virginia I felt sneaky, deceptive and dirty even though I had OC'ed for a while and had my CHP. It was not a good feeling and certainly did not feel like I was exercising any right at all. I felt more like a criminal. I am no more ashamed of my gun than I am of my Navy uniform but the latter is merely a symbol of our freedom whilst the former the guarantor. If the purpose of carrying is to defend life, then lets not forget where life and the right to defend it both come from: God.
I believe it is the "hide your guns because they're bad" mentality that got us to where we are in the first place regarding sensible and resonable gun regulation. As I've said time and time again, OC is the ultimate hypocrite detector, be it on the street, in a store, in a library, behind a badge, in the legislature, anywhere and everywhere.
Think of it this way. If more people OC'ed, there would be less crime and less criminals and less need for unnecesary legislation making your job easier and our society a safer place - like it once was.
I hope that you will continue the fight for gun rights everywhere as long as the fight does not continue to drive guns into the shadows. Mine is afraid of the dark.
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Sa45auto
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 10:06 pm |
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hitbackfirst wrote:
No offense to Alphamike, but I cannot support the argument of "Don't exercise your rights or they may be taken from you." It is keeping our rights low profile so as not to attract attention rather than openly exercising them that allows those rights to be swept away with little or no opposition.
I don't know who you are quoting, but Alphamike didn't say that.
We are each stewards of our own rights.
We get to chose how to use them.
I believe Alphamike was asking us to use them wisley.
I have had several experiences where I was open carrrying, someone saw me and got scared, and I was able, through soft words, kindness and understanding, to calm their fears and educate them.
I have been abel to keep from making enemies, by treating them as friends.
Open Carry education is like eating an orange.
If you try and force someone to eat a whole orange, all at once, just because you can, you might succeed, but you will make an enemie who hates oranges.
If on the other hand, you feed them that orange, one section at a time, you will make a friend who likes oranges.
The same goes for open carry. We can make enemies or friends, the choice is ours.
This is where the greater good comes in.
Please exercise your right to open carry, but please do it with wisdom and make friends not enemies.
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 11:05 pm |
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Patriot wrote: A Hero??? Yay!
Does this mean I get to put on a cape and underwear and fly arround the room?
Sorry for the mental immage
just don't OC if you plan to dress up, even I would find that "Alarming"
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Patriot
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 11:09 pm |
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Um.....
Anyone know a good "Indecent Exposure" attourney?
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Sa45auto
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 11:30 pm |
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Patriot wrote:
Um.....
Anyone know a good "Indecent Exposure" attourney?
That was no open carry when you "Dress up" (As in Super Hero) Not when you "Dress" Patriot.
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Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 12:57 am |
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swillden wrote: BobCav wrote: Absolutely! I've never heard of any guy refusing a nice 12-15 year old bottle of scotch!
Well, if he's not LDS, or for some other reason a non-drinker. He'd probably appreciate the gesture anyway, but it might create a little discomfort.
How about some range time for the senator.
Bravo for all you have done to enrich the OC'ing experience!
Dave Martin
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Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 02:11 am |
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Kudos to all involved. Especially to Saint for the way he handled himself.
Thanks to Senator McKenzie for his involvement.
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Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 03:53 am |
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Phssthpok wrote: A HAIKU party!
Slow and steady squeeze.
Blurry target, sharp front sight.
Surprise break. Kaboom!
Great time at the range.
Shooting paper and poppers.
Gun is dirty now.
Last edited on Thu May 1st, 2008 03:54 am by Citizen
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Citizen
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Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 04:42 am |
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Phssthpok wrote: A HAIKU party!
Come on guys! Create! This is fun.
Soul-reaching report.
It is my nature to love,
The sound of freedom.
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Decoligny
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Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 04:57 am |
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Hate writing Haiku
The meter is way too hard
Think I'll have a beer
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Citizen
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Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 04:59 am |
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Decoligny wrote: Hate writing Haiku
The meter is way too hard
Think I'll have a beer
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BobCav
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Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 06:17 am |
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Can't write a haiku
Dislike the way they don't rhyme
Guess I'll just give up.
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Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 06:25 am |
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BobCav wrote: Can't write a haiku
Dislike the way they don't rhyme
Guess I'll just give up.
Write it while having a (ora few) beer. I having a beer (or a few) makes everything sound better
TJ
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hitbackfirst
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Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 07:29 am |
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a loaded handgun
open carried on one's hip
Boise is now safe
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Sa45auto
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Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 02:35 pm |
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haiku....Blah..
Without a meter or a ryme;
I'll call it "Junk", most every time.
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