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Anubis
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Posted: Thu Aug 7th, 2008 02:15 pm |
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| I understand that Illinois politics is controlled by Daley and the Cook County machine. Is there any significance, then, in the fact that 82 of 102 Illinois counties has passed pro-2A resolutions? Will the resolutions lead to accomplishing change?
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ilbob
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Posted: Thu Aug 7th, 2008 03:46 pm |
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I certainly hope so.
State politics is a big mess. The state republican party is a disaster as they have degraded themselves into a lite version of democrats and further destroyed themselves by political corruption. Republican voters are never thrilled about voting for crooks, but that does not seem to bother democratic voters.
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deepdiver
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Posted: Thu Aug 7th, 2008 11:53 pm |
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Do you have any links to the information about the which 82 counties and the nature of the resolutions? I knew that many were discussing such resolutions but did not realize that so many had already taken affirmative actions on the matter.
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Anubis
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Posted: Fri Aug 8th, 2008 12:12 am |
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Here's where I saw the statement. For some reason, I can't post the text of the article without major truncation problems. http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=4121
The text of the resolution is on the home page http://www.pro2aresolution.com/index.html
A map showing the 82 counties can be seen at http://www.pro2aresolution.com/id12.html
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deepdiver
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Posted: Fri Aug 8th, 2008 02:39 am |
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Thanks for those links Anubis! I was aware of the first few passages back in April-May 2007 but didn't realize it had gained so much momentum. I'm really not surprised by the map.
So far the population centers have voted it down or haven't voted on it. IL is interesting in that Chicago and its suburbs have enough legislators to out vote the rest of the state in the House and Senate. At least one of DuPage, Will or Lake would be needed I would think, perhaps more than one, to force action in the legislature and I am pessimistic about how realistic that would be.
I'm surprised that Rock Island County voted against it as I thought there were firearm manufactures and/or distributors there who had threatened to move to Iowa if some of those bills were passed. Perhaps I misremember. Of course nearby Henry County voted for it as Springfield Armory located in the county is a major employer.
There is a lot of analysis that could be done with the voting trend thus far, especially if one had the numbers on the vote outcomes in each county. I wonder how close the votes have been. Really though, all of that is an academic pursuit I think if they can't get at least one or more of those northeast counties.
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trailblazer2003
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Posted: Fri Aug 8th, 2008 03:16 am |
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deepdiver wrote:I'm surprised that Rock Island County voted against it as I thought there were firearm manufactures and/or distributors there who had threatened to move to Iowa if some of those bills were passed. Perhaps I misremember. Of course nearby Henry County voted for it as Springfield Armory located in the county is a major employer.
From what I have previously read from Illinoiscarry.com, some of the non-passing counties stated that the resolution was not county business. Therefore the resolutions never passed inital sub-committees.
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Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 08:32 pm |
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Will County is having a hearing on the resolution Oct 2nd at 10am. Any one who can go should! Will county would be a huge victory. Oct 2nd is also the final hearing in Lombard about Gun World. Hopefully both will turn out in our favor.
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Grapeshot
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Posted: Wed Oct 1st, 2008 01:52 am |
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deepdiver wrote:
I'm surprised that Rock Island County voted against it as I thought there were firearm manufactures and/or distributors there who had threatened to move to Iowa if some of those bills were passed. Perhaps I misremember. Of course nearby Henry County voted for it as Springfield Armory located in the county is a major employer.
That was Les Baer and he did move to Iowa lock, stock and barrel.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1837832/posts
Yata hey
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deepdiver
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Posted: Wed Oct 1st, 2008 04:46 pm |
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Grapeshot wrote: deepdiver wrote:
I'm surprised that Rock Island County voted against it as I thought there were firearm manufactures and/or distributors there who had threatened to move to Iowa if some of those bills were passed. Perhaps I misremember. Of course nearby Henry County voted for it as Springfield Armory located in the county is a major employer.
That was Les Baer and he did move to Iowa lock, stock and barrel.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1837832/posts
Yata hey
Ah yes. Thank you for filling in my memory gap, grapeshot!!
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Posted: Wed Oct 1st, 2008 07:00 pm |
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deepdiver wrote: Grapeshot wrote: deepdiver wrote:
I'm surprised that Rock Island County voted against it as I thought there were firearm manufactures and/or distributors there who had threatened to move to Iowa if some of those bills were passed. Perhaps I misremember. Of course nearby Henry County voted for it as Springfield Armory located in the county is a major employer.
That was Les Baer and he did move to Iowa lock, stock and barrel.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1837832/posts
Yata hey
Ah yes. Thank you for filling in my memory gap, grapeshot!!
Rock Island County brought the issue back and passed it!
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deepdiver
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Posted: Wed Oct 1st, 2008 10:11 pm |
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Rock Island County did indeed per the map link posted by Anubis.
http://www.pro2aresolution.com/id12.html
According to that link it has INCREASED to 86 counties!!!! Woot!! Happy to see sanity exists in some counties of IL.
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Parabellum
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Posted: Sat Oct 4th, 2008 07:14 pm |
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| What happened in Will County on the 2nd? Did they pass it or what?
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trailblazer2003
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Posted: Sat Oct 4th, 2008 08:05 pm |
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Just looked it up on their website.
"Mr. Moustis stated a map was distributed regarding a resolution in support of the Second
Amendment; 85 of the counties in Illinois have passed this. It is not something we need to push
through. We will bring it back to the next meeting to see if this committee wants to bring it to the
full county board.
A motion was made by Mr. Brandolino, second by Mrs. Woods, to place this on the
agenda for the October executive committee meeting. All in favor. MOTION CARRIES."
The wait continues. Guess we can see how they really feal.
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junglebob
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 07:45 pm |
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Parabellum,The Will County Executive has passed the resolution on th the Legislative Committee , that will have the resolution on its agenda Tuesday October 14, 2008 at 10:30 am , 302 N. Chicago St. County Board Room, Second Floor, Joliet, Il 60432 . Supporters of the Pro2A resolution are urged to attend.
86 counties have now passed it.
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Posted: Sun Oct 19th, 2008 03:41 pm |
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87 Counties now, Will County Passed.
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trailblazer2003
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Posted: Sun Oct 19th, 2008 10:04 pm |
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Big Chris wrote: 87 Counties now, Will County Passed.
That is awesome!
Anyone know if Cook or Dupage counties have put it on any agendas yet? I see Lake co is pending.
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Posted: Sun Oct 19th, 2008 10:16 pm |
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we probably won't see any more action right now until after the election.
Also it is my understanding that Lake County truly hasn't yet put it on their agenda and have been pretty much ignoring their citIzens.
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Posted: Sun Oct 19th, 2008 11:20 pm |
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More than 85% of counties supporting 2A and the legislature, controlled by Cook county and its suburbs, continues to ignore their will.
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Posted: Sun Oct 26th, 2008 09:05 pm |
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deepdiver wrote: More than 85% of counties supporting 2A and the legislature, controlled by Cook county and its suburbs, continues to ignore their will.
Cook County, if you add DuPage, Lake, and McHenry counties, constitute well more than 50% of the Illinois population. About 57%, by my guesstimate.
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Posted: Tue Nov 4th, 2008 06:52 pm |
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| WE need all counties in Illinois to pass these bills it only makes sense to follow the law
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