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magicman
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Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 04:47 am |
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HELLO..................
I can't belive I almost got arrested today..MAR. 23th
when I was walking the dog.. around my block..
the HAMMOND POLICE came down on me LIKE
FLYS on COW-PIES......for my open carry of my
.38 stub nose.. GUN ...... NOT DOG!! HA! HA!....
ANYWAY I told them the LAW.. THEY DID NOT SEE
IT THAT-WAY!!!. They told me to get a BIGGER SHIRT
to cover that gun or they would take it AWAY FROM
ME!!!!!! ANY REPLYS GUYS.......????
MAGICMAN........................
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Citizen
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Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 04:52 am |
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Were you detained? As in was it an involuntary encounter from which you were not free to walk away?
Did you refuse consent to the encounter?
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Jubbie
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Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 02:06 pm |
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Wow, never had a problem OC'ing in Hammond. The one Hammond officer I had a conversation with knew OC was legal, but warned some other officers might take extreme precautions. Guess you had a run in with some of those. Sometimes it does have to do with the area you are in as far as how much trouble happens there, just makes the cops more on edge. Hopefully you got the names of the officers involved, then you can try contacting the chief, Brian Miller, and see if he would care to educate his officers in Indiana law.
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cce1302
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Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 05:51 pm |
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| Keep OCing. Maybe carry something MORE conspicuous. Carry a pocket audio recorder. When they say they will take it, ask, "By what authority will you take it?"
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magicman
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Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 08:05 pm |
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CITIZEN.....
THANK YOU... for the info...... YES I WAS DETAINED and NOT FREE
to WALK AWAY..... I will use you'r INFO...for next time!!!
THANK YOU AGAIN!!!!!!
MAGICMAN.................
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magicman
Regular Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 08:21 pm |
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Jubbie.......
THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD INFO....I live in south Hammond,
it is NOT a BAD AREA......NO I did NOT get their names.....
BUT, next time.... I WILL!!!! AND next time, if there is a
next time I will CALL the CHIEF !!!THANK YOU AGAIN!!!
MAGICMAN...........
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magicman
Regular Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 08:29 pm |
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cce1302.......
THANK YOU for GOOD ADVICE!!! I do have a pocket recorder,
AND a BIGGER GUN!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!!
MAGICMAN................................
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Skippy
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Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 08:35 pm |
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You could call the chief anyway. There should be a report of the incident that you can get via the Freedom of Information Act.
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magicman
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Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 08:43 pm |
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SKIPPY.........
THANKS........... GOOD THOUGHT!!!! I did'nt think of that!!!
THANK YOU!! MAGICMAN...................
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Jubbie
Regular Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 09:05 pm |
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I'm in Slacker, so if you would be so kind to mention whereabouts in south Hammond you were, I'd be more than happy to walk my great dane while OC'ing around the same area. The south side of Hammond is very friendly, so it shouldn't have been a cop on edge about dangers.
Last edited on Tue Mar 24th, 2009 09:06 pm by Jubbie
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Prometheus
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Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 10:51 pm |
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I've OC'ed all around Hammond, even the walmart. Never had an issue.
I can say that the only Hammond PD cops I've seen that have realized I was OC'ing was in Cabelas... which is of course south hammond.
I live in South Hammond and OC in the yard/street all the time as well.
Always ask for a supervisor so they can clear it up. The hierarchy at HPD knows OC is legal.
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magicman
Regular Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 25th, 2009 06:57 pm |
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Jubbie.......
I live at 169th and Calumet by Edison school BUTon Spruce ST.
1/2 block from Edison PARK& POOL. I walk around Spruce st.
and Cherry St. BY Harrison ST........ I look FORWARD to SEEING
YOU and YOUR GREAT DANE!!!!!!!!!
MAGICMAN...............
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Jubbie
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Posted: Wed Mar 25th, 2009 08:30 pm |
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The school shouldn't be an issue since you weren't on it's property, proximity doesn't matter. There was a Hammond ordinance about parks & the sidewalks around the parks. Just trying to get all the facts correct, were you possibly walking on the sidewalk right next to the park? There's also a question of if the state law overrules the local ordinance, that depends on when the local ordinance was passed, something about 1994. Not sure when I'll get over there since I'm leaving for Pittsburgh for a week soon and have a lot of things to take care of.
Also, almost forgot about this part. They shouldn't have even bothered you without cause. Open carrying isn't an excuse to harass the public. Cops aren't allowed to pull over someone without cause.
Last edited on Wed Mar 25th, 2009 08:32 pm by Jubbie
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magicman
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Posted: Wed Mar 25th, 2009 08:40 pm |
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Jubbie........
No I was not walking in the PARK or on the PARK SIDEWALKS..
I was walking just around the block!! I stay away from the
city park.................. THANKS ...MAGICMAN.........................
THANK YOU for the GOOD INFO>
PS. Jubbie... Have a very nice, safe trip!!!
Last edited on Thu Mar 26th, 2009 12:35 am by magicman
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Mike
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Posted: Wed Mar 25th, 2009 08:45 pm |
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magicman wrote: Jubbie........
NO I was NOT walking in the PARK or ON the PARK SIDEWALKS..
I was walking just around the block!! I stay away from the
city park.................. THANKS ...MAGICMAN.........................
Please format your posts like normal prose, thanks.
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Unoid
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Posted: Sat Mar 28th, 2009 05:19 pm |
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telling him how he should write? Thats a little harsh. Perhaps asking him politely would have been a slightly better idea?
I'll make an effort to OC in hammond more often now.
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JoeSparky
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Posted: Sun Mar 29th, 2009 05:00 am |
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Unoid wrote: telling him how he should write? Thats a little harsh. Perhaps asking him politely would have been a slightly better idea?
I'll make an effort to OC in hammond more often now.
Looking at the request made by Mike I see the word "please" followed by the request and then a "thanks".... What more do you want?
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Citizen
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Posted: Sun Mar 29th, 2009 06:05 am |
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JoeSparky wrote: Unoid wrote: telling him how he should write? Thats a little harsh. Perhaps asking him politely would have been a slightly better idea?
I'll make an effort to OC in hammond more often now.
Looking at the request made by Mike I see the word "please" followed by the request and then a "thanks".... What more do you want?
Also, you have to be around Mike for a little while.
He's not rude or impolite or short with people in person. Its just that his textings seem that way sometimes because he leaves out the diplomatic verbiage others use. He's just quick and to the point.
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zeebandit
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Posted: Tue Mar 31st, 2009 06:15 pm |
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| I live in the 7000 block of Van Buren. If you see an old guy walking a chocolate lab that is me. I carry concealed though.
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sizzlerguy
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Posted: Fri Apr 24th, 2009 06:34 am |
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| HI, I DON'T CARRY A WEAPON, BUT I HAVE MET THE HAMMOND CHIEF of POLICE BRIAN MILLER. I DON'T RECOMMEND CALLING THAT CREEP. I ALLEGE that HE'LL TAPE YOU, AND EDIT THE TAPES TO USE AGAINST YOU.
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