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IA_farmboy Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 15th, 2009 06:49 pm |
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I came across this website from a thread at thehighroad.us. The Iowa subforum here seems a bit inactive. Is there any effort to enact an unlicensed open carry law in Iowa?
I am aware that Iowa law permits unlicensed open carry in rural parts of the state, and that open carry is permitted within city limits with a Permit to Carry Weapons.
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lockman State Researcher

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Posted: Sun Feb 15th, 2009 07:36 pm |
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Please start one. I would love not to have the hassle of getting an Iowa license.
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JD Regular Member

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Posted: Mon Feb 16th, 2009 01:52 pm |
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IA_farmboy wrote: I came across this website from a thread at thehighroad.us. The Iowa subforum here seems a bit inactive. Is there any effort to enact an unlicensed open carry law in Iowa?
I am aware that Iowa law permits unlicensed open carry in rural parts of the state, and that open carry is permitted within city limits with a Permit to Carry Weapons.
Not really. The only organization pushing for reform in IA is IowaCarry.ORG and they are mainly focused on getting shall issue passed. There are currently three bills in the IA house with rumor of a fourth bill in the works, all are regarding shall issue of carry permits. Unless I missed it, none of the current three bills mention unlicensed open carry in city limits.
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Posted: Mon Feb 16th, 2009 07:24 pm |
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JD wrote: IA_farmboy wrote: I came across this website from a thread at thehighroad.us. The Iowa subforum here seems a bit inactive. Is there any effort to enact an unlicensed open carry law in Iowa?
I am aware that Iowa law permits unlicensed open carry in rural parts of the state, and that open carry is permitted within city limits with a Permit to Carry Weapons.
Not really. The only organization pushing for reform in IA is IowaCarry.ORG and they are mainly focused on getting shall issue passed. There are currently three bills in the IA house with rumor of a fourth bill in the works, all are regarding shall issue of carry permits. Unless I missed it, none of the current three bills mention unlicensed open carry in city limits.
If the shall issue bills pass, the permit issued is the same as the permit issued today under discretionary criteria - allows open cand concealed carry in vheilces and on foot - currently unlicensed open carry is only allowed in unincorporated areas on foot.
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JD Regular Member

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Posted: Mon Feb 16th, 2009 09:38 pm |
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Mike wrote: JD wrote: IA_farmboy wrote: I came across this website from a thread at thehighroad.us. The Iowa subforum here seems a bit inactive. Is there any effort to enact an unlicensed open carry law in Iowa?
I am aware that Iowa law permits unlicensed open carry in rural parts of the state, and that open carry is permitted within city limits with a Permit to Carry Weapons.
Not really. The only organization pushing for reform in IA is IowaCarry.ORG and they are mainly focused on getting shall issue passed. There are currently three bills in the IA house with rumor of a fourth bill in the works, all are regarding shall issue of carry permits. Unless I missed it, none of the current three bills mention unlicensed open carry in city limits.
If the shall issue bills pass, the permit issued is the same as the permit issued today under discretionary criteria - allows open cand concealed carry in vheilces and on foot - currently unlicensed open carry is only allowed in unincorporated areas on foot.
Right, I was just answering his question regarding organizations/movements supporting unlicensed open carry in city limits, to date there is none with that agenda that I am aware of.
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IA_farmboy Regular Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 5th, 2009 06:00 am |
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I read somewhere that there is a bill in the Iowa House to allow "Vermont Carry" in Iowa. Is this true? If so, what is the bill number?
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JD Regular Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 6th, 2009 08:06 pm |
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IA_farmboy wrote: I read somewhere that there is a bill in the Iowa House to allow "Vermont Carry" in Iowa. Is this true? If so, what is the bill number?
I don't think there's a bill matching that description.
HF 559 is the latest bill regarding shall issue for carry permits which is a pretty darn good bill compared to the previous entries, but I've not seen mention of a bill with unlicensed carry.
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amaixner Regular Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 03:39 pm |
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As for open carry, I don't see Iowa getting unpermitted urban carry in the near future.
There were 4 major carry bills filed, of which one is an alaska/vermont style bill. It was not introduced, only filed. 2 bills reformed some things but did not have shall-issue in them. I assume the legislators who wrote them are trying for the incremental approach.
Once we (iowacarry.org) get our "shall issue" law passed, you will have reciprocity, and the sheriffs will not be able to revoke a permit for legally open carrying (this is what currently makes urban open carry impossible - you can do it once, then your permit gets revoked). Our bill would pretty much fix your problem completely. The things standing in the way are several key democrats, and the ISSDA. Currently, the Iowa State Sheriffs and Deputies Association voted off the board all members who vocally support shall-issue. Their lobbyist actively opposes shall-issue. Also there are several democrats, including committee and majority leaders, who have vowed not to let any firearms bills come to a vote.
Our law has 4 main points:
1) sheriff shall issue if criteria are met (age, background check, mental, etc)
2) sheriff must justify denials in writing within set time. applicant has right to appeal denial to a magistrate, who shall overturn denial if applicant meets criteria in law
3) honor all states' permits - not reciprocity, rather, like Missouri's law
4) standardize training
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