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spioi Regular Member

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Posted: Sun Jun 21st, 2009 07:10 pm |
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| well I overslept and missed the event. hopefully I dontmiss the cleveland litter pickup next week
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8th ID Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 21st, 2009 09:34 pm |
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Well, I just got back in from the pick up. I'm not sure of the total numbers, but I think was around 10. Liberty can report on the actual numbers. I had only one encounter with a 'civilian.' A man stopped and asked us what Organization sponsored the clean up. I told him Campaign for Liberty. He said great and gave us the thumbs up. Other than that all I can report are some long stares from people at stop lights.
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8th ID Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 21st, 2009 10:21 pm |
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| I'm going to attempt to post a photo of the signs that Liberty had made and were used today....
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Statesman Regular Member

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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 01:34 pm |
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Liberty,
Your website could use a timer application, that shows the number of days/hours/minutes the liberal Herald Leader has not done a story on the OC Garbage Pickup. This would be amusing.
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Liberty4Ever Regular Member

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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 07:25 pm |
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I was a bit disappointed by the low turnout at Guns And Garbage. We had ten people there yesterday. It was enough, but I'd like to see a lot more. I'd like to see enough armed citizens picking up litter that people driving by would be forced to notice and give it some serious thought.
There was one person yesterday from OpenCarry.org, and the other nine were from the local liberty community (8 from Campaign For Liberty and 1 from the 912 group).
Is there something wrong with the open carry litter pickup event? Is it poorly promoted? I tried to promote it well at OpenCarry.org. I had a table at the Lexington gun show the day before at considerable effort and expense. I talked to a lot of people at the gun show and about five said they'd be there and five others said they'd try to be there and none of them showed up. It just seems strange to me that I'm almost the only person in the local gun community that thinks this is worth doing. Constructive comments and suggestions are welcome.
I committed to four litter pickups a year for at least two years, so we'll keep having these Guns And Garbage events. I think the signs helped get the message across this time. Maybe next time I'll have a couple of more signs. I'm still working on the promotion end of things. I'm still working on the logistics, too. It'll be better next time. It's very much a learning event. Hopefully, people will keep coming out and we'll start to change some attitudes in Lexington.
I'm busy now, but hope to have a couple of pictures posted soon.
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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 07:38 pm |
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LIBERTY, One problem could have been that yesterday's event was on Father's Day. I had no problems with that because I live in Lexington and my father is no longer living. But I'm sure many people had events with immediate family and also may have traveled to other places.
I was also disappointed in the low number of people. I thought there would be enough to MAKE a TV station come out and cover it. As far as advertising it goes-well I think you hit all the right places. It's either the day it was on OR some may not really be interested in keeping their gun rights.
The only other thing I can think of that could have been a factor for low turnout is that there are some who carry concealed who really don't believe in OC and think that OC will be the cause of passage of tougher gun laws.
That's my opinion. But thanks for the work and expense you put into the event. Next time, it might just be me and you out there picking up trash...sad, but true
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BigBubba Regular Member

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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 07:59 pm |
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8th ID wrote: LIBERTY, One problem could have been that yesterday's event was on Father's Day.... snip
Thats why I didnt make it out. Had all intentions of it until I learned the family plans for Father's Day. Sorry not alot of people came out, I'll do my best to be at the next one.
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Statesman Regular Member

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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 08:19 pm |
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Liberty,
As far as promotion goes, have you considered a nifty logo and T-Shirts. I'd advise against black due to the heat in the summer. Something neon orange or yellow, with lettering that contrasts against it may do wonders for advertising. Put GunsAndGarbage.org on the back of them, with the logo. Maybe a large sun blocking colored hat to match? To goofy?
People who want to participate can buy them.
Also, to keep people coming to the event, make the job easier. The pickup arms I mentioned earlier, and bag holders than can be strapped around the shoulder area for carrying may assist. There shouldn't be any need for you to carry these two items, just tell people where to get them.
Don't get discouraged. Nothing happens all at once. Be persistent, consistent, keep up a good reputation, and people will come.
Last edited on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 08:21 pm by Statesman
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Liberty4Ever Regular Member

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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 10:12 pm |
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I knew Father's Day was problematic, but when planning it, it was the only date not already taken by strongly competing events. Of course, it wasn't taken because it was Father's Day. Mea culpa on that one.
Thanks for the ideas and the encouragement. I'll definitely persist, at least for the next year and a half (six more litter pickups). That's my contract.
The public outreach and education is getting better. I'd rate that aspect of the first Guns And Garbage at a solid zero, but I'd rate it a 1 out of 10 at yesterday's event. Hey, it's progress!
I initially wanted to get custom reflective vests with some promotion on them but the state is very fussy about using their expensive vests and nothing else, and not obscuring them in any way.
One of the guys who was there yesterday emailed me today to suggest a third sign. Motorists would see:
SHOULDER WORK
ARMED LITTER PICKUP (with pistol pictures)
GunsAndGarbage.com
That third sign seems like an obvious idea now, but almost all good ideas seem obvious in retrospect. I'll work on getting some simple Coroplast yellow and black yard signs that say GunsAndGarbage.com.
Please keep those ideas coming. Obviously, my marketing foo is weak.
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M1Gunr Regular Member

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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 11:10 pm |
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I'm getting an order together of these shirts for our litter group in Washington. Feel free to use the image if you want some made up in your area. Washington currently has a "litter and it will hurt" slogan. Enjoy.....
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