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Question About Shpulder Rigs & OC?
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neuroblades
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 Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 09:39 am
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OK, a few weeks back I had the chance to talk with a KSP trooper and asked if a shoulder rig is a legal OC option as it is partially concealed to an extent by the arm.

So, I'd like to hear what others think about the use of shoulder rigs for OC.  Anyone out there with legal background that would like to weigh in on this topic.

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 Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 01:41 pm
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I don't know if you'll be able to find someone with a professional legal background to weigh in on this and if you did they may be reluctant to give you legal advice concerning this.

This has been debated around here before, and honestly I have no idea what to think either. I have my CCDW so I carry as I wish, I'd recommend you get one as well.

I'm curious as to what the trooper told you.

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 Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 07:38 pm
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i agree get your ccdw license then you wont have to worry about how you carry

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 Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 11:10 pm
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A shoulder rig would be legal.

Now think this through and do as you wish:

People (sheeple) claim intimidation from OCers at some times. Shoulder rigs are entrenched in most people's mind to be worn concealed. A gun openly worn on  one's hip is becoming more and more common and people (sheeple) are becoming more used to that carry style. In fact, it is even 'invisible' to some. That is good.

A shoulder rig almost screams "Look At Me"!

Now, this is my opinion.  I personally would NOT use a shoulder rig unless concealed.:dude:

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 Posted: Sun Nov 8th, 2009 11:06 am
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langzaiguy wrote: I don't know if you'll be able to find someone with a professional legal background to weigh in on this and if you did they may be reluctant to give you legal advice concerning this.

This has been debated around here before, and honestly I have no idea what to think either. I have my CCDW so I carry as I wish, I'd recommend you get one as well.

I'm curious as to what the trooper told you.


I had addressed this question (what the trooper had told me) earlier on in one of my prior posts here, can't remember which topic though. *LOL*

When I approached him with this query, he was choosing his words very carefully, I could tell.  The basic message was that it wouldn't really be advisable due mainly to the fact that in an OC situation (without CCDW), the gun should be as visible as possible, like in a holster situation.  He even displayed how they carried their sidearm as a reference.  He said that in a shoulder rig setup that the majority of the sidearm is covered and only the backstrap and such is visible.  But in reality, though I'm not going to question his wise advise, but this is really no different than what's visible in a standard holster on a belt.  In short, he wouldn't advise it without a CCDW, just in case. 

I can see his POV on this and I have to agree as well.  But it is a 50/50 deal I guess.

In reference to those that had suggested the CCDW, I'm currently in the process of locating an instructor in my area.  There's supposed to be a really good one locally but I haven't gotten his name yet.

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 Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 04:21 am
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Takes a little digging, but I've found the local CCDW representative at the main SP office has pretty solid answers about everyting pertaining to carry.  Don't just talk with any SP officer, they don't usually know all the nuances.

Last edited on Tue Nov 10th, 2009 04:22 am by chris in va

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 Posted: Sat Nov 14th, 2009 08:18 am
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chris in va wrote: Takes a little digging, but I've found the local CCDW representative at the main SP office has pretty solid answers about everyting pertaining to carry.  Don't just talk with any SP officer, they don't usually know all the nuances.
I had never thought about this, didn't really know that that position existed.  I'll have to look them up and talk with them.


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