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Anty506
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 10:51 pm |
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Just got off the phone with David (Head of Risk Management) with raising canes and was told that their policy states that ONLY Active LEO, Military and On Duty LEO can carry in their restaurant.
They do NOT care if you are legally carrying or not, they do not allow it in their restaurant.
I only eat canes about once every 6 months, so it doesn't bother me, but still sucks for others who love canes.
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Mike
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 11:01 pm |
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Anty506 wrote: Just got off the phone with David (Head of Risk Management) with raising canes and was told that their policy states that ONLY Active LEO, Military and On Duty LEO can carry in their restaurant.
They do NOT care if you are legally carrying or not, they do not allow it in their restaurant.
I only eat canes about once every 6 months, so it doesn't bother me, but still sucks for others who love canes.
And why did you ask them? why not just carry there and go about your business?
asking businesses what their policy is forces them to have a policy - and of course such policy will almost be to ban carry.
What don't people understand about Don't ask, don't tell. Don't!
This is roughly on the same level as inviting businesses to post their premises with no gun signs!
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Johnny_B
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 11:11 pm |
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Mike wrote:And why did you ask them? why not just carry there and go about your business?
Why 
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DKSuddeth
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 11:11 pm |
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if they are allowing law enforcement and military to carry, but not anyone else, could that not be defined as discrimination?
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Anty506
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 11:44 pm |
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I asked because I was asked to leave by a manager and was told that their was a policy against it. When I asked to see it, the manager says I don't have it but I assure you we have a policy against it.
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XD-GEM
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 11:45 pm |
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| I've carried at the Canes on Lee and Highland several times without any trouble.
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Dustin
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 11:57 pm |
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| Oh well, no business for Cane's.
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smoking357
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Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 12:25 am |
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Mike wrote: Anty506 wrote: Just got off the phone with David (Head of Risk Management) with raising canes and was told that their policy states that ONLY Active LEO, Military and On Duty LEO can carry in their restaurant.
They do NOT care if you are legally carrying or not, they do not allow it in their restaurant.
I only eat canes about once every 6 months, so it doesn't bother me, but still sucks for others who love canes.
And why did you ask them? why not just carry there and go about your business?
asking businesses what their policy is forces them to have a policy - and of course such policy will almost be to ban carry.
What don't people understand about Don't ask, don't tell. Don't!
This is roughly on the same level as inviting businesses to post their premises with no gun signs!
Ex-friggin'-actly!
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Johnny_B
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Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 01:04 am |
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smoking357 wrote: Mike wrote: Anty506 wrote: Just got off the phone with David (Head of Risk Management) with raising canes and was told that their policy states that ONLY Active LEO, Military and On Duty LEO can carry in their restaurant.
They do NOT care if you are legally carrying or not, they do not allow it in their restaurant.
I only eat canes about once every 6 months, so it doesn't bother me, but still sucks for others who love canes.
And why did you ask them? why not just carry there and go about your business?
asking businesses what their policy is forces them to have a policy - and of course such policy will almost be to ban carry.
What don't people understand about Don't ask, don't tell. Don't!
This is roughly on the same level as inviting businesses to post their premises with no gun signs!
Ex-friggin'-actly!
Why don't you read what he posted right afterwords, he was told to leave...
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charlie12
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Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 02:37 am |
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Mike wrote:And why did you ask them? why not just carry there and go about your business?
Mike meet Anty506. 
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rmansu2
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Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 07:00 pm |
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Anty,
Sorry to hear about your troubles. As you know we are on the younger side of the spectrum and therefore it seems that people imediately that we are up to no good. I can say a get a lot of funny looks but have yet to be asked to leave. I work off of Seigen Ln in Baton Rouge and have been to the Canes here at least a half dozen times, but have never been asked to leave. Beleive it or not I never even had the "are you a LEO" question. I guess since I carry a P95 "brick", people assume that "if he's got something that big he's got to know what he's doing".
Hate to hear your still having problems.
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XD-GEM
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Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 06:28 pm |
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rmansu2,
You're probably right about someone's looks being held against them. We've all seen some example of that even in areas of our lives not gun-related. Having met you and Anty in person, I found you both to be respectful young men, although Anty's look , being a bit edgier than some people are comfortable with, may be working against him.
I'm not saying he needs to change his look (everyone has the right to pick their own style), but he will need to be aware that it will occasionally work against him, and he might want to consider taking a bit more defferential attitude in inital contact with folks who act hostile. It will throw them off balance if this guy that they think looks a bit "odd" acts in a normal, respectful manner.
I have a friend with several tattoos and piercings who does not carry at all, but he constantly gets negative feedback from strangers who never give him a chance to show what a nice guy he really is. This softer approach is the approach to people he has chosen after years of glowering at them for being so idiotic as to judge him based solely on his apperance alone. It doesn't always work ,but it's worth the try if it deflects some of the aggravation.
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nolacopusmc
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Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 06:36 pm |
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XD-GEM wrote: rmansu2,
You're probably right about someone's looks being held against them. We've all seen some example of that even in areas of our lives not gun-related. Having met you and Anty in person, I found you both to be respectful young men, although Anty's look , being a bit edgier than some people are comfortable with, may be working against him.
I'm not saying he needs to change his look (everyone has the right to pick their own style), but he will need to be aware that it will occasionally work against him, and he might want to consider taking a bit more defferential attitude in inital contact with folks who act hostile. It will throw them off balance if this guy that they think looks a bit "odd" acts in a normal, respectful manner.
I have a friend with several tattoos and piercings who does not carry at all, but he constantly gets negative feedback from strangers who never give him a chance to show what a nice guy he really is. This softer approach is the approach to people he has chosen after years of glowering at them for being so idiotic as to judge him based solely on his apperance alone. It doesn't always work ,but it's worth the try if it deflects some of the aggravation.
Very true.
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lsushawn
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Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2009 03:24 am |
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charlie12 wrote: Mike wrote:And why did you ask them? why not just carry there and go about your business?
Mike meet Anty506.
and yet he remained and asked to see a policy, should have been arrested for remaining after being asked to leave. the manager of a buisiness does not have to show you a written policy or even have one in place at all, if he/she wants you to leave, you must leave gun or no gun. will you ever learn?Last edited on Fri Jun 26th, 2009 03:27 am by lsushawn
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mark edward marchiafava
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Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2009 03:52 am |
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First of all, underneath your alias, since you choose not to use a real name, it refers to you as a "supporting member." Nothing could be further from the truth.
You are an ANTI-OC'er.
Will all this influx of riftraft CC'ers from all points, maybe Mike and John could come up with a designator of "Non-supporting non-member."
Since not every employee is an authorized agent of the corporation, the correct question is when will YOU ever learn?
HINT: I already know the answer: never.
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Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2009 05:57 am |
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mark edward marchiafava wrote: First of all, underneath your alias, since you choose not to use a real name, it refers to you as a "supporting member." Nothing could be further from the truth.
You are an ANTI-OC'er.
Will all this influx of riftraft CC'ers from all points, maybe Mike and John could come up with a designator of "Non-supporting non-member."
Since not every employee is an authorized agent of the corporation, the correct question is when will YOU ever learn?
HINT: I already know the answer: never.
What is the OCDO policy regarding personal attacks?
Or, is this your personal website and only people who OC exactly like you do and believe exactly what you spout are allowed to OC and post here?
And, BTW, about 99% of posters seem to use aliases. It could be because they are not interested in self promotion.
Last edited on Fri Jun 26th, 2009 05:59 am by derf
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Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2009 08:20 am |
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derf wrote: mark edward marchiafava wrote: First of all, underneath your alias, since you choose not to use a real name, it refers to you as a "supporting member." Nothing could be further from the truth.
You are an ANTI-OC'er.
Will all this influx of riftraft CC'ers from all points, maybe Mike and John could come up with a designator of "Non-supporting non-member."
Since not every employee is an authorized agent of the corporation, the correct question is when will YOU ever learn?
HINT: I already know the answer: never.
1. What is the OCDO policy regarding personal attacks?
Or, is this your personal website and only people who OC exactly like you do and believe exactly what you spout are allowed to OC and post here?
2. And, BTW, about 99% of posters seem to use aliases. It could be because they are not interested in self promotion.
1. Certain rules, like forum rules, gravity, common sense, and logic, and inertia, do not apply to god-like beings such as MEM.
2. Bingo
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Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2009 03:33 pm |
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And why would you want to trample a business' right to deny firearms? If you don't like their policy you are free to get your chicken elsewhere. They also have drive thrus where you can OC in your vehicle and have your chicken, too.
A responsible OCer might respect the rights of businesses and politely complain through the proper channels.
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rmansu2
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Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2009 04:03 pm |
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Anthony, were you actually asked to leave by the manager, or did he make the statement "You can't have that here"?
The reason I ask is are these statements the same. An uninformed decleration of your rights(or privleges) is not the same as a request for you not to do something.
I am not a confrontational person. But, if I were in a retail location and asked to leave by an uninformed uneducated(on that businesses policies) associate asked me to leave I would undoubtably leave without question. The only way I would not leave is if by chance I had been asked to leave on a previous ocassion and had contacted management for clarification and had his name and number readily available.
If this same person made the off-handed comment "You cannot have that here", I would have to ask some questions as to why. Hopefully, and in many cases it has, it would lead to a civilized discussion of our 2A and (Mark's favorite) Article 1 Section 11.
My question to everyone is, does the statement "You can't have that here" amount to the same as "You must leave the premises".
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Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2009 04:17 pm |
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rmansu2 wrote:
My question to everyone is, does the statement "You can't have that here" amount to the same as "You must leave the premises".
No, they want you to eat chicken. They want you to stay, but not with the gun.
From their point of view "you can't have that here" is correct.
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