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Dustin
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 Posted: Sun Jun 28th, 2009 02:31 am
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NAT wrote: Summer-9mm PT111- Perp Less Clothes

Winter-PT145- Perp More Clothes

Fishing- Hi-Point 9mm-Overboardd have not lost week paycheck

Hunting-Hi-Point 40- Same as above

Camping- 6" 357Taurus stainless with lazer site- Everbody sleeps good

Bar Room- Buy Round of drinks when entering good running shoes- Someone will open the door for you to get out fast

Anti Gun Carry Friends- Concealed

Suprise- 4" 357 Taurus- Looks like nuclear explosion at nite


LOL ! We've got to meet :D

Nice break down.

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 Posted: Sun Jun 28th, 2009 03:12 am
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jbird wrote: Glock 30, .45 ACP for concealed carry. Glock 26, 9mm for Deep concealment when needed. Glock 21, . 45 ACP for open carry and sometimes for concealment in winter. I like Austrian tupperware.:cool:
BTW, Captain Dan, neat test data. Thanks.
 

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Yea man any time, until recently I owned several acres and having nothing to do for two weeks at a time (When off the boat) I shot every day, my boys love it and it was somthing we could do together. Anyway , the boys asked me which gun was best, I did some research on balistic jel and the rest is , as they say, history. A small Arms trainer Buddy of mine uses the same test whenever a new round comes out for his fav(.45)

The test is uber cheap and easy to do, you ought to grab a few of your favorite in your fav calibers  and see which one preforms best. You will be AMAZED at the difference in performance in the same caliber. Also bullet weight makes a HUGE difference in penetration as well as shock transferal, the lighter bullets (in my tests anyway)  allways came out on top. If you want a suggestion, stay away from the heavy .45's , they are real poor penetrators and the shock waves don't go out far at all.

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 Posted: Sun Jun 28th, 2009 04:59 pm
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After my grand father died he left me his .44 magnum Astra revolver, I'm looking at a few different types of ammo to use with it. It's the first handgun I've owned, and the reason I'm looking into OC'ing. :)

For self defense Cor-bon 165gr .44 special:  https://dakotaammo.net/shop/index.php?cPath=21_45
And just because I think it's beautiful looking, and would love to try it out, Winchester Supreme 250gr hollow point platinum tip: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=816160

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 Posted: Sun Jun 28th, 2009 05:09 pm
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Let's see if I can explain things regarding my choice.

The thread title - "What Caliber do you prefer" could, to me, mean what would you want if given any choice.  I'd have to say that I'd feel quite safe carrying my old S&W model 19 .375 loaded with 125 grain JHPs.  I even like my pair of Ruger P-89 pistols loaded with Cor-Bon 155 grain JHPs.  I am comfortable with either of these choices and won't get into a debate over caliber vs shot placement vs whatever someone can come up to argue about.

Alas, I take it the title is meant to be what do you perfer to (open) carry daily. If so then I have to admit to being partial to the same gun I would likly Conceal carry.  That model is my Bersa Thunder .380 caliber pistol. 

OK,  before anyone starts with bullet performance or the tired stuff like not trusting any caliber which doesn't start with a 4 , etc,....... Please don't.  I've carried my Rugers and can tell you that by the end of the day the weight of the gun on my hip is a pain. It's a big, bulky tool and I'm a big bulky guy who gets tired of it hanging there.

Same with revolvers like my old .357.  I carried a Ruger Security Six or a S&W model 686 while working as a Corrections Officer and I can say for a fact that by the end of a shift I was HAPPY to turn in my gun to the arms room officer. 

With my little Bersa I hardly know it's there sometimes.  It's slim, light and certainly not a burden.  Would I carry something in a more "potent" caliber if I could.  Sure, if it was about the same weight and size I'd love to.  But the Bersa is what I have.  I have practiced with it often and I know it and trust it to function when I need it. I know I'm accurate with it and am confident in being able to place my shots where needed when needed. 

Finally I compare my little Bersa to a kevlar vest. Like the discussion about a vest having to be light and confortable or a LEO will choose not to wear it and may not have it on when needed, so it is with my pistol.  I choose a lighter, smaller gun over a heavier pistol because I'm more comfortable with it on my belt and less likly to decide against the agrivation of toting it around. 

So that's my long but detailed answer.  I choose my Bersa Thunder .380 caliber pistol.

 

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 Posted: Sun Jun 28th, 2009 05:10 pm
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 Oopppsssss.  Double post. 

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 Posted: Tue Jun 30th, 2009 05:19 am
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Has anyone ever shot the .45 GAP? We just got one in the shop the other day... I expect it to sit there for a LONG time. I doubt anyone will ever buy it. But anyway, how's the knockdown power? Is it a good round?

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biggin215 wrote: Has anyone ever shot the .45 GAP? We just got one in the shop the other day... I expect it to sit there for a LONG time. I doubt anyone will ever buy it. But anyway, how's the knockdown power? Is it a good round?

I have shot one once, but in all the students i train, people I meet in the gun community, etc., I have never heard fo anyone carrying one. For that matter, I have only heard of a couple of Glock junkies even owning one. Gastom Glock was destined to have a cartridge with his name on it. He made it happen.

The problem is that it has ammo availability issues (even pre-OBAMA) and issues with providing an articulable advantage over any other caliber that has already proven itself. Do not have the ballistic data, but it is out there.


More of a niche gun in my opinin.  If I had the money, I would like one more for historical purposes, for I am sure it will go away.  very similiar, the .357 Sig took off a little more, but when t was not adopted by LEO or MIL, it fell to the fringes. More people us it than the 45GAP, but it is nowehere near 9,45, or 40.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 05:14 pm
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It's weird to see 45GAP mentioned, just yesterday I was at the BX at Barksdale (friend is military) and the lady behind the counter caught me staring at 45gap ammo wondering what it was and she came up and said "we just got a gun in that can actually use that ammo wanna check it out?"

I got the impression it wasn't very popular ;)

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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 05:18 pm
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Oscarr wrote: It's weird to see 45GAP mentioned, just yesterday I was at the BX at Barksdale (friend is military) and the lady behind the counter caught me staring at 45gap ammo wondering what it was and she came up and said "we just got a gun in that can actually use that ammo wanna check it out?"

I got the impression it wasn't very popular ;)



Kinda like 10mmm. Was suppossed to be the next best thing but it never took off.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 06:26 pm
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nolacopusmc wrote: Oscarr wrote: It's weird to see 45GAP mentioned, just yesterday I was at the BX at Barksdale (friend is military) and the lady behind the counter caught me staring at 45gap ammo wondering what it was and she came up and said "we just got a gun in that can actually use that ammo wanna check it out?"

I got the impression it wasn't very popular ;)



Kinda like 10mmm. Was suppossed to be the next best thing but it never took off.

Yeah, there was a flurry of articles when it first came out, but few manufacturers jumped on board.  IIRC Springfield still has an XD in it.

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I don't carry often, but when I do, it's Springfield 1911 Mil-spec, 45. acp 230 gr FMJ.

I haven't shot defensive rounds out of it in years...it didn't always feed hollow points reliably, but I believe that may have be an issue with the angle of the feed ramps on the magazines I was using. Having replaced all my magazines, I think i'm up for testing out some defense rounds.

Anyone got any recommendations?

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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 07:53 pm
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Baldrik78--Welcome to OCDO.  There are a few ideas early in this thread  but availability might mean 'take what you can get' for now.

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Baldrik78 wrote: I don't carry often, but when I do, it's Springfield 1911 Mil-spec, 45. acp 230 gr FMJ.

I haven't shot defensive rounds out of it in years...it didn't always feed hollow points reliably, but I believe that may have be an issue with the angle of the feed ramps on the magazines I was using. Having replaced all my magazines, I think i'm up for testing out some defense rounds.

Anyone got any recommendations?


Corbon pow'r ball ! !  

It will feed 100  % of the time.

It has a plastic ball in the cavity (wich is why it mushrooms through ANY medium, the polymer ball is naturally slick and would feed in a rusty pipe full of mud. Said ball is forced back into the v- shaped hollow cavity upon contact, thus forcing the sides out.)

Read my earlier posts about the tests on this thread. The pow'rball mushroomed every time in every cal. when shot through plywood, drywall, clothes, even a dryer.

Preforms better than any hollow point but feeds like a FMJ.

 

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That sounds pretty sweet. I'll have to look for those next time I go hunt for ammo.

thanks!:D

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Baldrik78 wrote: That sounds pretty sweet. I'll have to look for those next time I go hunt for ammo.

thanks!:D

Any time Brother.

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Baldrik78 wrote: That sounds pretty sweet. I'll have to look for those next time I go hunt for ammo.

thanks!:D


Any time Brother.

Sorry for the double post, I'm offshore trying to hold on with 1 hand and type w/ the other.

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CaptainDan wrote: Baldrik78 wrote: I don't carry often, but when I do, it's Springfield 1911 Mil-spec, 45. acp 230 gr FMJ.

I haven't shot defensive rounds out of it in years...it didn't always feed hollow points reliably, but I believe that may have be an issue with the angle of the feed ramps on the magazines I was using. Having replaced all my magazines, I think i'm up for testing out some defense rounds.

Anyone got any recommendations?


Corbon pow'r ball ! !  

It will feed 100  % of the time.

It has a plastic ball in the cavity (wich is why it mushrooms through ANY medium, the polymer ball is naturally slick and would feed in a rusty pipe full of mud. Said ball is forced back into the v- shaped hollow cavity upon contact, thus forcing the sides out.)

Read my earlier posts about the tests on this thread. The pow'rball mushroomed every time in every cal. when shot through plywood, drywall, clothes, even a dryer.

Preforms better than any hollow point but feeds like a FMJ.

 


that stuff is even harder to find right now than .380 ball. LOL:P

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I hear that. I've been doing good just to keep a few hundred rounds of FMJ in my range bag.


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