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Posted: Tue Apr 7th, 2009 12:17 am |
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I live in anti-gun New Jersey. I am going to visiting beautiful Jackman Maine for vacation, to do some hiking / kayaking. I have studied up on the open carry laws yet I still am very nervous as to how the police will react, if they noticed me. I don't plan on carrying in towns just the rural back country. In Jersey, I would be executed on sight if I was open carrying (literally). Living in New Jersey has made my nerves shot thinking about cops and their mentality against citizen gun ownership.
How do you think I will be open carrying in the rural country, should I be this paranoid? Living in NJ has conditioned me to fear the no-exception ruled police state. I have studied the Maine law's and I am a little prepared to justify the reasons for having a shiny Ruger 44mag Blackhawk Hunter on my side, yet I'm nervous of being locked up or shot. NJ wont allow rights to its citizens, and the cops around here make me assume the whole country follows their anti-constitutional mentality.
I'm just so culture-shocked from living in New Jersey I expect to be held at gun point and my beautiful shinny revolver will be confiscated. Should I be so worried? Are the police in Maine understanding of peoples rights? I am nervous to to test the waters of Open Carry, without someones confirmation that I might be shot or held at gunpoint.
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pullnshoot25
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Posted: Tue Apr 7th, 2009 08:39 am |
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Dude, you'll be fine. Maine is an OC state but you have to unload each time you get in the car (I think)
Get a non-res Maine permit to avoid the school zone crap and you should be fine. Walk like the free man you are and fear not what lies on the road ahead.
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Tiny85
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Posted: Wed Apr 8th, 2009 11:46 pm |
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pullnshoot25 wrote: Dude, you'll be fine. Maine is an OC state but you have to unload each time you get in the car (I think)
Get a non-res Maine permit to avoid the school zone crap and you should be fine. Walk like the free man you are and fear not what lies on the road ahead.
Very true and a lil annoying. you can OC most places unless they have no guns sign in which case you can untill they tell you to leave. in your car though you cant have the gun loaded and accessable to you. Still looking it up but I don't believe you can even have the ammo and the gun in easy access to you. again this is my understanding and im sure someone who is more knowledgable then I am shall chime in. So gun on the seat ammo in the trunk or ammo on the seat gun in the trunk.
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BB62
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Posted: Thu Apr 9th, 2009 12:06 am |
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Anything can happen, any place.
What happens if an uninformed former NJ cop (who has just been hired by a Maine department) is on duty, and lucky YOU gets noticed by him?
If you're not ready for the possibilities (and there are many, both positive and negative) - then don't OC. If you've read this site at all, you realize that.
There's no shame in not OCing where you are legally allowed to do so.
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WheelGun
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 09:27 pm |
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Get a Maine non-resident license. And New Hampshire if you want to. Plan to travel to Maine via Vermont and New Hampshire.
Strap on your piece the minute you leave New York and are safely in Vermont.
Don't give it another thought.
Enjoy your trip. (Jackman is a fun place, but watch the weather if you are out on the lakes in a flimsy boat)
One more word: maybe get a smaller gun for the first trip.
(Maine is where my own 3 children, then aged 11 through 14, first saw their daddy carrying "like Wyatt Earp," their words, not mine.)
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Posted: Mon May 25th, 2009 11:21 pm |
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I was reading through the stories and opinions from Maine and had a question. I'm actually from Alabama but I'll be up visiting in Maine this summer (I know, long trip!) and was wondering what I needed to know for up there!
Is it tough to get a Maine non-resident permit? As in, does it cost a lot and take a while, or could I stop by a PD one day while I'm up there and get one right then. If anyone knows, it would be greatly appreciated!
If not, maybe I'll just try the unload in the car, then open carry deal like others are talking about. Thanks for any help!
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Posted: Tue May 26th, 2009 09:14 am |
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dixieborn wrote: I was reading through the stories and opinions from Maine and had a question. I'm actually from Alabama but I'll be up visiting in Maine this summer (I know, long trip!) and was wondering what I needed to know for up there!
Is it tough to get a Maine non-resident permit? As in, does it cost a lot and take a while, or could I stop by a PD one day while I'm up there and get one right then. If anyone knows, it would be greatly appreciated!
If not, maybe I'll just try the unload in the car, then open carry deal like others are talking about. Thanks for any help!
Costs $35 for the permit you must provide 2 forms of ID as well as proof of taking a basic pistol safety course. take up to 60 days for the nonresident permit so be sure and mail it in well before heading on your trip.
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pullnshoot25
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Posted: Thu May 28th, 2009 12:16 am |
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dixieborn wrote: I was reading through the stories and opinions from Maine and had a question. I'm actually from Alabama but I'll be up visiting in Maine this summer (I know, long trip!) and was wondering what I needed to know for up there!
Is it tough to get a Maine non-resident permit? As in, does it cost a lot and take a while, or could I stop by a PD one day while I'm up there and get one right then. If anyone knows, it would be greatly appreciated!
If not, maybe I'll just try the unload in the car, then open carry deal like others are talking about. Thanks for any help!
Just OC dude. Only limitation is that you can't OC in a car.
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Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 06:11 pm |
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pullnshoot25 wrote: dixieborn wrote: I was reading through the stories and opinions from Maine and had a question. I'm actually from Alabama but I'll be up visiting in Maine this summer (I know, long trip!) and was wondering what I needed to know for up there!
Is it tough to get a Maine non-resident permit? As in, does it cost a lot and take a while, or could I stop by a PD one day while I'm up there and get one right then. If anyone knows, it would be greatly appreciated!
If not, maybe I'll just try the unload in the car, then open carry deal like others are talking about. Thanks for any help!
Just OC dude. Only limitation is that you can't OC in a car.
Depends where your going. true its legal to OC in Maine but some spots such as Portland or Lewiston it becomes problematic with police.
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pullnshoot25
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Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 06:16 pm |
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Tiny85 wrote: pullnshoot25 wrote: dixieborn wrote: I was reading through the stories and opinions from Maine and had a question. I'm actually from Alabama but I'll be up visiting in Maine this summer (I know, long trip!) and was wondering what I needed to know for up there!
Is it tough to get a Maine non-resident permit? As in, does it cost a lot and take a while, or could I stop by a PD one day while I'm up there and get one right then. If anyone knows, it would be greatly appreciated!
If not, maybe I'll just try the unload in the car, then open carry deal like others are talking about. Thanks for any help!
Just OC dude. Only limitation is that you can't OC in a car.
Depends where your going. true its legal to OC in Maine but some spots such as Portland or Lewiston it becomes problematic with police.
Voice recorder and a pamphlet should put them in their place.
If I ever go to visit my estranged sister in Maine, I am so going to OC.
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Posted: Sat May 30th, 2009 02:56 pm |
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pullnshoot25 wrote: Tiny85 wrote: pullnshoot25 wrote: dixieborn wrote: I was reading through the stories and opinions from Maine and had a question. I'm actually from Alabama but I'll be up visiting in Maine this summer (I know, long trip!) and was wondering what I needed to know for up there!
Is it tough to get a Maine non-resident permit? As in, does it cost a lot and take a while, or could I stop by a PD one day while I'm up there and get one right then. If anyone knows, it would be greatly appreciated!
If not, maybe I'll just try the unload in the car, then open carry deal like others are talking about. Thanks for any help!
Just OC dude. Only limitation is that you can't OC in a car.
Depends where your going. true its legal to OC in Maine but some spots such as Portland or Lewiston it becomes problematic with police.
Voice recorder and a pamphlet should put them in their place.
If I ever go to visit my estranged sister in Maine, I am so going to OC.
From what I hear Portland is getting better since we got a new police chief. forgive my ignorance but what pamphlet are you refering to?
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Posted: Sun May 31st, 2009 11:52 am |
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isnt the new chief from Las Angeles? i wonder how he feels about OC? I have open carried multiple times since i first learned you could in Maine. Having been confronted about three times so far, the best thing to do is be friendly cordial and compliant. make it clear that you are law abiding citizen and that your actions are not unlawfull. ive noticed that once you assert your right to OC the leo's seem to get very friendly and understanding. in my experience anyway. just do your research so you can dazzle them with you knowledge of the laws pertaining to OC. two out of the three times i have been stopped the officers were amazed at what i knew and even admitted to not knowing what i did. so the best thing is to EDUCATE yourself. that would be my advice and carry with confidence. one more thing! a great book to get is "The Travelers Guide to the Firearm Laws of the Fifty States" long name but its awesome! its only about 12 or 13 dollars i think. its written by a lawyer from tennesee or kentucky, one of the two i dont remember which. i cant remember the URL but if you just google it im sure it will come up.
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Posted: Mon Jun 1st, 2009 07:55 pm |
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Well I just got back from Maine. I said "Screw it, if I get hassled I don't care anymore." I open carried hiking around the cabin but packed the big 44 away in the small town that I stopped by for food and beer. I didn't want to make the locals uncomfortable by carrying a bear defense gun in their little grocery shop. Who knows, they might not have even gave a crap about the gun, but I felt safe enough in the little town of Jackman where the only people I met were the friendliest on the planet. It has one of the lowest crime rates in the US and a population of only a few hundred. This was the last place in the world I felt I needed to assert my rights or need protection. The sad thing is, the crime ridden @#$% hole towns in New Jersey that I come from are the ones that need open carry legalized! Its pathetic that a nice little "safe" town is where one can open carry, but a @#$% hole city like Camden with the highest crime rate in the US is where my rights for protection are taken away from me. The fascist Nazi state of NJ is pathetic, with its draconian laws and delinquent animal citizens.
In Maine, I was out in the woods half the time anyway and saw more moose and bear scat then people. I am more worried about the animals then the friendly people in a place like that, and thats why I took the 44. Spring time is black bears with cubs, and I spotted a nice scratching post and a den, that I stayed clear of.
I know every place has its crime, yet I did not feel like I needed to even bother asserting my rights around a small town. I need a gun for New Jersey cities in all truth and reality. This whole corrupt system has everything backwards and its a true miss-pleasure living in this pathetic scum state. I will publicly state that NJ is a total @#$% hole and the worst state in the entire US. Most people from NJ are degenerated trash who care nothing about their rights or any form of social etiquette, thats why it has the worst crime, streets, and laws. Most of the cops are trained Nazi dogs, who subordinately enforcing every asinine law these morons passed through legislation. Come visit New Jersey and try not to frown, its impossible. I came home from work and tried to see one smiling person in the jams of crowded traffic on the crumbling roads and I didn't see one. There is nothing to smile about in this disgraceful state, the people are and laws are hopeless. If you like living in a Nanny fascist state, and need the police to make the decisions of if your life is worth protecting, then stop by NJ! The friendly locals in Camden would love to say hello and take you on a tour of their fabulous city. If anyone is going to leave a comment to defend NJ, don't even bother. Thats even more hopeless then trying to get your rights back from the state that took them away. Do yourselves a big favor, and never visit my hometown @#$% hole state, NEW JERSEY.
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Posted: Tue Jun 2nd, 2009 10:41 pm |
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glad you had fun tho! lol ill stay out of NJ. i have a cabin outside of jackman near bulldog mountain. wonderfull place and the town is very friendly.
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 04:21 am |
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I grew up in Maine and carried opennly even in grocery stores during deer season and no one said a thing other than to comment on a nice pistol. Things have changed thoug, it is not exactoy the same state I grew up in.
I would check with the Gamne Warden as I remember seeing something about carrying a fire arm in the woods was prima facia evidence of hunting.
Here is alink form this same website about that issue:
"Here is the direct link.
http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/Statutes/12/title12sec11403.html
Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife has this to say in their rule book:
A handgun may be carried by licensed* hunters while bowhunting but may not be used to dispatch deer. (*License to hunt with firearms.)
I called the Maine - Officer of the Revisor of Statutes (207) 287- 1650. I was connected to the Wildlife Division. The woman didn't want to admit it but after much proding, she told me that it is legal to carry your firearm for protection while scouting for game animals. She acted like she didn't want to tell me. I just kept harassing her until she broke down. She said that you had to have a license to hunt and a permit for deer if it was during the deer season. In the next breath she told me that you didn't need those things if you had a concealed carry permit. I asked her, since it was legal in the State of Maine to open carry a weapon, why would I need a deer permit, hunting license or CCP just to hike or scout for game with my personal protection weapon and she reluctantly agreed that I wouldn't. I think that they just want to sell license's"
You can find this discussion at the following URL.
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=30782&forum_id=7&jump_to=520921
KInd of odd, becasue you either say you are not hunting and base your defense on the open carry law, or get a Non-Resident CCL, or get a small game license and claim you are legally hunting whatever small game is in season (and in MAine I think there is always something in season), but it may reqiure you to wear florescent orange (250 sq inches in visible for 360 degrees).
Good luck!
Bill
P.S. I now live outside of Philly and have advocated that since NJ is basically a big sandbar, they should disconnect the Commodore Barry, Delaware Memorial, and Walt Witman Bridges and tow NJ to sea where it can succeed from the union and become it's own state.
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Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2009 09:48 pm |
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| being nervous your first time is always gonna happen, just dont be too nervous haha if an officer approcahes you just be polite and calm, nothing scares cops more than a shakey nervous guy with a gun ;-)
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