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Mike Conti
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Posted: Sun Mar 22nd, 2009 02:22 am |
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Rattrapper wrote: I have known the Lt. ALONG TIME, ALL SHOW AND NO GO.
Private email sent.Last edited on Sun Mar 22nd, 2009 03:20 am by Mike Conti
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ralphb72
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Posted: Sun Mar 22nd, 2009 03:05 am |
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I don't care much for their uniforms.
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Rattrapper
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Posted: Sun Mar 22nd, 2009 03:34 pm |
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ralphb72 wrote: I don't care much for their uniforms.
Adolf Hitler liked them enough to copy the pattern, just changed the color. Not much has changed since then.
If one were to research case mostly dealing with search and siezure in Mass. that most of the adverse case law comes from the Mass. State Police.
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Mike Conti
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Posted: Sun Mar 22nd, 2009 03:42 pm |
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That is incorrect. Another myth.
Apparently you have a problem with the MSP, rat, but prefer to throw bombs anonymously. I understand that many people find it cathartic to slam the police in this manner, and that is their right to do so.
In your case, however, I take exception because 1) you took a personal shot at me claiming you know me "ALONG time" [sic] and 2) you claim to be a Mass Police Officer. Frankly, I find it hard to believe you are an Environmental P.O. Most I know are very professional.
If you would care to email me your contact info, or better yet, post your real name as I have done here, I would be glad to discuss any issues between us. Frankly, I don't believe I know you at all, nor you me as you claim, unless you have attended one of my classes over the years, as I see you also claim to be a firearms instructor.
Frankly, I hope that is not the case, because your lack of knowledge and failure to check "facts" before stating them would indicate you to be less than professional in this regard as well.
Also, before the flaming begins anew, let me just state that this is my last post here because I am not at liberty to comment on the case in question in detail and I tend to stay off these types of boards. Just know that the trooper did the right thing in this case based on the totality of the circumstances and applicable laws. Also remember that we live in a post-Columbine/Virginia Tech world now, and as such, members of law enforcement are placed in an extremely difficult situation when faced with cases of this nature. Look at the whole scenario, folks, before you pass judgment on the officer who is standing out there on the roadway at 0-dark thirty dealing with the unknown while you sleep peacefully in your beds.
Mike Conti
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email: mconti@sabergroup.com
Last edited on Sun Mar 22nd, 2009 04:40 pm by Mike Conti
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Gunslinger
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Posted: Sun Mar 22nd, 2009 05:43 pm |
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Mike Conti wrote: That is incorrect. Another myth.
Apparently you have a problem with the MSP, rat, but prefer to throw bombs anonymously. I understand that many people find it cathartic to slam the police in this manner, and that is their right to do so.
In your case, however, I take exception because 1) you took a personal shot at me claiming you know me "ALONG time" [sic] and 2) you claim to be a Mass Police Officer. Frankly, I find it hard to believe you are an Environmental P.O. Most I know are very professional.
If you would care to email me your contact info, or better yet, post your real name as I have done here, I would be glad to discuss any issues between us. Frankly, I don't believe I know you at all, nor you me as you claim, unless you have attended one of my classes over the years, as I see you also claim to be a firearms instructor.
Frankly, I hope that is not the case, because your lack of knowledge and failure to check "facts" before stating them would indicate you to be less than professional in this regard as well.
Also, before the flaming begins anew, let me just state that this is my last post here because I am not at liberty to comment on the case in question in detail and I tend to stay off these types of boards. Just know that the trooper did the right thing in this case based on the totality of the circumstances and applicable laws. Also remember that we live in a post-Columbine/Virginia Tech world now, and as such, members of law enforcement are placed in an extremely difficult situation when faced with cases of this nature. Look at the whole scenario, folks, before you pass judgment on the officer who is standing out there on the roadway at 0-dark thirty dealing with the unknown while you sleep peacefully in your beds.
Mike Conti
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email: mconti@sabergroup.com
Having lived in the PDR of Taxachusettes for some time, I've had a few dealing with MSP. All of them polite, fair and professional--much better than the stormtrooper mentality in NH, btw. They also issue non-res CCWs and I had no problem getting mine when I lived there from '03-05 while at Hanscom AFB. They have no axe to grind with nonresidents who have no reason to not issue. Of course, I had a resident CCW in Middlesex County--where they are extremely difficult to get when we moved there after I left the AF active duty, and had no problem with it's renewal in Norfolk County. And with both a VA and NH permit, that probably sped up the process.
That being said, the OP violated no gun laws--being protected under Federal "peaceful transit" statute--again, as I said in my prior post, assuming he was lawfully seized of the weapons and ammo in CT. The non-firearms related items he was carrying is another story. And the search may have been illegal rendering all items inadmissable in court under "fruit of the poisoned tree" rulings. I'll be curious to see where this one goes.
PS the hats they wear are stupid looking. Last edited on Sun Mar 22nd, 2009 05:52 pm by Gunslinger
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Gunslinger
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Posted: Sun Mar 22nd, 2009 05:48 pm |
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Mathias9987 wrote: M.G.L Part I, Title XX, Chapter 140, section 131f "A Class A or Class B temporary license to carry firearms or feeding devices or ammunition therefor, within the commonwealth, may be issued by the colonel of state police, or persons authorized by him, to a nonresident or any person not falling within the jurisdiction of a local licensing authority or to an alien that resides outside the commonwealth for purposes of firearms competition and subject to such terms and conditions as said colonel may deem proper..." (http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/140-131f.htm) and it goes on for a page or so of conditions, restrictions, blah, blah, blah.
It means for a non-resident to even have possession of any firearms, ammunition, "feeding devices" such as clips or magazines in the state of Massachusetts, that person must have the respective temporary license, I don't think he had the license(s) and this is why you MUST research and confirm ALL gun laws FOR ALL the states you plan on traveling through but this guy is being made an example of for everyone planning or thinking of going through the state of Massachusetts with firearms or other kinds of weapons such as knives, brass knuckles, etc. This state's gun laws are a lot more complex than this I just used this for space sake. Massachusetts has some of the toughest gun laws in the country.
He is not a "non-resident." He was under peaceful transit and therefore the firearms are protected under the Federal Statue op cit. The non-resident statute applies only to non-res domiciled in MA or stopping for time not incidental to traveling through the state, i.e., more than overnight at a motel--not those passing through.
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Posted: Sun Mar 22nd, 2009 05:57 pm |
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Mike Conti wrote: That is incorrect. Another myth.
Apparently you have a problem with the MSP, rat, but prefer to throw bombs anonymously. I understand that many people find it cathartic to slam the police in this manner, and that is their right to do so.
In your case, however, I take exception because 1) you took a personal shot at me claiming you know me "ALONG time" [sic] and 2) you claim to be a Mass Police Officer. Frankly, I find it hard to believe you are an Environmental P.O. Most I know are very professional.
If you would care to email me your contact info, or better yet, post your real name as I have done here, I would be glad to discuss any issues between us. Frankly, I don't believe I know you at all, nor you me as you claim, unless you have attended one of my classes over the years, as I see you also claim to be a firearms instructor.
Frankly, I hope that is not the case, because your lack of knowledge and failure to check "facts" before stating them would indicate you to be less than professional in this regard as well.
Also, before the flaming begins anew, let me just state that this is my last post here because I am not at liberty to comment on the case in question in detail and I tend to stay off these types of boards. Just know that the trooper did the right thing in this case based on the totality of the circumstances and applicable laws. Also remember that we live in a post-Columbine/Virginia Tech world now, and as such, members of law enforcement are placed in an extremely difficult situation when faced with cases of this nature. Look at the whole scenario, folks, before you pass judgment on the officer who is standing out there on the roadway at 0-dark thirty dealing with the unknown while you sleep peacefully in your beds.
Mike Conti
http://www.sabergroup.com
email: mconti@sabergroup.com
People who trample on others' rights like you do deserve nothing but scorn. Can the tired old "police have a dangerous job" excuses.
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Rattrapper
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Posted: Mon Mar 23rd, 2009 01:13 pm |
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| Lt. I could not get back to you as I had work to do. As for a Problem with MSP NEGATIVE, I just don't care for you. There are many great people on MSP that I would do almost anything for. But there are a few that drink the kool-aid and you are one of them. You showed that when you went after Bank Miller during a training seminar, Remember that! I checked on what he said and HE WAS RIGHT. That showed me all I needed to know about you. Some advice if You are going to be a Public figure, get some thick skin. Other than That I wish you the best. Last edited on Mon Mar 23rd, 2009 01:26 pm by Rattrapper
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ODA 226
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Posted: Sat Mar 28th, 2009 03:57 pm |
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Mike Conti,
Thanks for confirming that MSP is monitoring this forum. Are we considered to be possible domestic terrorists for standing up for our rights?
That man was in compliance with federal law and the trooper had no right to search him or his vehicle under said laws. I see a federal law suit against the MSP and the arresting officer.
And BTW, I don't like your hat or uniform either.
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mastiff69
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Posted: Sun Mar 29th, 2009 04:36 pm |
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To answer the question is Mass part of the USA,
the answer is no they are part of the Stalin mentality ,
i lived in NH for yrs loved it there, disliked Mass.
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BobbyGun71
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Posted: Sun Mar 29th, 2009 05:54 pm |
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Lets just say even if this kid gets all these charges dropped he will have a hard time getting the NICS back ground check system to see that, he will get delays when he ever buys firearms from gun stores, I went threw something worse and I was found not guilty by jury, I got my arrest record Annulled I thought I would be fine and move on with my life I was wrong, I got a 5 day delay when I bought a pistol but the pain was when I had to renew my PA-Non resident license to carry and got denied and so did my NH non resident license, I was able to get them after I sent them copies of my Acquittal but every time I renew my Mass resident Class A LTC I have to answer yes I was denied licenses for those 2 state for that reason. It's bad enough i have to answer yes I had to appear in court for a criminal issue and was Acquitted of charges. I hope no one goes threw this, its a pain but I will always put up a fight as long as I'm in this welfare state, im one of those lucky ones that have a Non-Restricted Class A LTC and will not Let MSP screw with me either, always respect all law enforcement but don't let them tread on your rights.
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Gunslinger
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Posted: Fri Apr 10th, 2009 05:33 pm |
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| What do you mean "annulled"? You need it expunged. Once this happens, it is gone from every data base. I helped a friend do this in Taxachusetts a while back and he has not had a problem getting his Res Pistol Permit there. If you were found not guilty, you should have no problem in having the motion to expunge affirmed.
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BobbyGun71
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Posted: Fri Apr 10th, 2009 10:31 pm |
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I was charged in New Hampshire, I didn't have any charges in mASSachusetts, The court found me not guilty by unanimous decision on these two charges, It cost me $50 to have that arrest record annulled, The problem was on the question on my Mass res LTC Application asked if I ever had to appear as a defendant for criminal not civil motor vehicle violation, This is the strange thing is I did not have a problem renewing my Mass LTC but I when try I renewed my non-res PA LTC they sent me a letter to challenge the (PICS) Pennsylvania Instant Check System, I sent them copies of my Record of Annulments and they sent me a denial reverse letter and asked me if I wanted to continue to renew my PA- LTC and I did and got my PA-LTC.
Is there another process to completely remove everything of this issue off my record?
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Gunslinger
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Posted: Sat Apr 11th, 2009 03:35 am |
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| I lived in NH for 16 years. You can have the arrest expunged. Go to the District Court it was tried in and get the form from the clerk. Fill it out, pay the fee and you should be good to go once a judge accepts the motion. There is no legal term called "annullment" unless you're talking about divorce or contract law. You expunge arrests. Last edited on Sat Apr 11th, 2009 03:36 am by Gunslinger
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BobbyGun71
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Posted: Sat Apr 11th, 2009 09:29 pm |
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This is the form that I had to fill If I wasted my arrest record sealed or wiped out http://www.courts.state.nh.us/district/annulmentpetition.pdf
They also ask you if you have had your criminal record annulled on the NH Pistol/Revolver License application.
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WCrawford
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Posted: Sun Apr 12th, 2009 04:09 am |
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| I read a news report that this guy was to be in court on April 3rd. Does anyone have any more info on this case?
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Gunslinger
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Posted: Sun Apr 12th, 2009 06:06 pm |
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| That's the correct form, although they evidently (NH is a bit weird at times and has changed the wording since the '90s when I lived there) are interchanging annulment with expungement. You record should have been expunged completely. You may want to invest the $25 to do a criminal records check on yourself on one of the internet sites to make sure nothing is lingering there. Just because the motion (petition) is granted by a DC judge doesn't mean the beaurocracy worked. Good luck!
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