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WARCHILD
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Posted: Tue Apr 22nd, 2008 02:17 pm |
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mzbk2l wrote: I always thought the Owosso cops were hardcases when I was a teen there, but I do remember the Corunna cops having an even worse rep.
I'll have to be sure to test their knowledge of non-residents open carrying (with an AZ CCW) next time I'm back in Owosso for a visit.
Corunna is even worse now, and after "MEETING" the cheif, I can understand why. Come get me, I'll gladly go with you. Maybe wear my dbl holster quick draw rig with 2 45's!
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dougwg
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Posted: Tue Apr 22nd, 2008 02:22 pm |
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WARCHILD wrote: adam40cal wrote: I just got one quick question then I can wait till Saturday haha. What did the chief say when you told him open carry is legal in the state of Michigan?
Adam: he knew, but agressively let me know his opinion. I'll relate his most un-professional behavior in the next part of the thread.
Anyone want to join me for a walk in Corunna? Time for some further education.
Name the time and place and I'll walk with you! [as long as it's on the weekend ;-)]
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Michigander
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Posted: Tue Apr 22nd, 2008 04:48 pm |
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I'd be up for going OCing with you guys there if I wasn't about to move. In my opinion a picnic in Corunna might be a good idea. 
By the way, if it were me, I would complain to the state police about being disarmed. They had no legal right to disarm you, because they had no probable cause to believe that you commited a crime. I'd call that unlawful search and seizure. Given that the MSP actually sent out a news letter detailing the legality of open carry, I would have hoped and expected that they would have diffused the situation.
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WARCHILD
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Posted: Tue Apr 22nd, 2008 09:56 pm |
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Michigander wrote: I'd be up for going OCing with you guys there if I wasn't about to move. In my opinion a picnic in Corunna might be a good idea.
By the way, if it were me, I would complain to the state police about being disarmed. They had no legal right to disarm you, because they had no probable cause to believe that you commited a crime. I'd call that unlawful search and seizure. Given that the MSP actually sent out a news letter detailing the legality of open carry, I would have hoped and expected that they would have diffused the situation.
I posted an edit correction in the thread. the cheif took my gun.
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Michigander
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Posted: Tue Apr 22nd, 2008 10:10 pm |
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That I am glad to hear. The MSP has a hard earned reputation for being the best. I'm glad to hear it somewhat held true in this case. I would have been dissaproving of the Trooper taking your wallet, but it sounds like you implied permission.
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WARCHILD
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Posted: Tue Apr 22nd, 2008 10:24 pm |
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Michigander wrote: That I am glad to hear. The MSP has a hard earned reputation for being the best. I'm glad to hear it somewhat held true in this case. I would have been dissaproving of the Trooper taking your wallet, but it sounds like you implied permission.
Yes I did, given the nature of the cheif's demeanor, it was a minor request so as not to escalate anything to a higher level. As I keep saying, let common sense be your guide. Each event is going to have it's own circumstances to evaluate when to stand your ground and when to give a little to make a bigger point! My own opinion, since I was there and all, I don't think I could have handled it any better than if I had practiced for it. Not to toot my own horn, but I was concerened how I would react in a situation like this and I came through very well.
what I'm most happy about, other than not going to the cheif's grey bar hotel,
I REALLY PISSED THAT CHEIF POLLIP OFF!!! any time I can piss off a pain in the ass cop like that, it was worth the time. enough said! 
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Michigander
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Posted: Tue Apr 22nd, 2008 11:56 pm |
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I'm inclined to believe you that you handled this as well as possible. I just can't wait to hear the show covering the event.
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mastiff69
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 12:24 am |
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I like to walk, it is good cardio and i need all the help i can get,
how about a saturday or a sunday, i am one that has to work all week long.....
Oh should i bring my weapon ? and my black talons also ?
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PavePusher
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 02:08 am |
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| What show is this you speak of? Does it have a podcast? TIA!
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Michigander
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 02:10 am |
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PavePusher wrote: What show is this you speak of? Does it have a podcast? TIA!
Yes it does. One show is even available to view on youtube.
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WARCHILD
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 02:12 am |
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PavePusher wrote: What show is this you speak of? Does it have a podcast? TIA!
Yes, it's a podcast/video show called the Saturday Afternoon Shootout. Look in the Mich section in the Radio Show thread. The links are posted there. Myself, my son, Steve, and Brian (aka: Venator) host the show. It's every other saturday at 3pm. for a one hour show(give or take) You can listen to the past shows on FlintTalkRadio. Or talkshoe.
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WARCHILD
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 02:18 am |
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mastiff69 wrote: I like to walk, it is good cardio and i need all the help i can get,
how about a saturday or a sunday, i am one that has to work all week long.....
Oh should i bring my weapon ? and my black talons also ?
Good to see another TALON owner--- you're going to like the cheif's reaction to these!
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mastiff69
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 03:34 am |
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I am sure the chief is a good upstanding person
I bet he just misunderstood the situation
I bet he was just acking this way toward You because of your hat  (right!)
Or better yet, he drank to much coffee , forgot to take his MEDS ,
AAHH he didn't get the memo OPEN CARRY IS LEGAL !!!!!!!
Got the Chief job because nobody else wanted it ..
http://www.ratemycop.com Feel free to rate him or any other officers incounters good or bad!!!!!
Last edited on Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 03:39 am by mastiff69
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harley2003rkc
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 04:02 am |
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All that and I've got to wait for the rest of the story. 
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adam40cal
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 04:44 am |
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I"m game we should all go and give our support I'd also have a copy of the laws in my back pocket to let them know (that way they can't pull thats not legal bit they like to use). That chief would freak out seeing all us walk down the sidewalk.  But if we're walking in in that city I gotta stop by that little taco shop I like lol
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SpringerXDacp
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 04:49 am |
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The word is getting around fast...
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=860992
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Michigander
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 05:03 am |
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The bcvojack guy in that thread brought up a good point, that teflon doesn't increase penetration. With pistol bullets, only hard metal with a pointy tip is all that good at going through soft body armor. Or perhaps a really fast round like 7.62x25. That will crack lighter Kevlar vests.
The Talons are badass rounds though. They're wickedly effective hollow points, and they look cool too.
Bottom line is the ability to go through a vest means very little it you can score a head shot. Especially a head shot with a bullet that mushrooms to 2 or 3 times its original size.
Last edited on Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 05:08 am by Michigander
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SpringerXDacp
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 05:21 am |
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Michigander wrote: The bcvojack guy in that thread brought up a good point, that teflon doesn't increase penetration. With pistol bullets, only hard metal with a pointy tip is all that good at going through soft body armor. Or perhaps a really fast round like 7.62x25. That will crack lighter Kevlar vests.
The Talons are badass rounds though. They're wickedly effective hollow points, and they look cool too.
Bottom line is the ability to go through a vest means very little it you can score a head shot. Especially a head shot with a bullet that mushrooms to 2 or 3 times its original size.
I do remember reading somewhere (the net I think) about 2 or 3 years ago, that the teflon only acts as a lubricant, not a factor in penetration.
Wouldn't mind having some myself.
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Michigander
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 05:26 am |
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Yep, steel on steel or steel on tungsten is a terrible thing for your barrel, so the teflon lubricates the barrel, just like it does when you put it on pipe threads.
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swillden
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 05:27 am |
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SpringerXDacp wrote: I do remember reading somewhere (the net I think) about 2 or 3 years ago, that the teflon only acts as a lubricant, not a factor in penetration.
That is what the Wikipedia article on the Black Talon says. It also says they were never banned, but just voluntarily withdrawn from production by Winchester, because of the misinformation about their armor piercing capabilities and the controversy it spawned.
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