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Venator
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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 02:00 am
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Rogue9er wrote: He then came up with the idea of just keeping one car within a block's distance of us, just to save time. I thought that was fair.  or is planning some trouble. I suppose we'll find out.

Sounds like Warren all over again.  Fair, what the hell is wrong with you.  We can't stop them from having a cop come to the picnic and baby sit us all day, if the want to waste resources on us.....sounds like poor management of funds to me. 

As for 911 calls, of all the picnics we have had, only Warren PD was on call and that was more intimidation than protecting us and only because it was in the paper before the event.  We have yet to have the police called on us by a citizen.  The 911 call fallacy has got to be addressed.  When the police use that statement explain to them that we have never had the policed call on any of our 10 other very public get-togethers.

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 02:53 am
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Venator wrote: Rogue9er wrote: He then came up with the idea of just keeping one car within a block's distance of us, just to save time. I thought that was fair.  or is planning some trouble. I suppose we'll find out.

Sounds like Warren all over again.  Fair, what the hell is wrong with you.  We can't stop them from having a cop come to the picnic and baby sit us all day, if the want to waste resources on us.....sounds like poor management of funds to me. 

As for 911 calls, of all the picnics we have had, only Warren PD was on call and that was more intimidation than protecting us and only because it was in the paper before the event.  We have yet to have the police called on us by a citizen.  The 911 call fallacy has got to be addressed.  When the police use that statement explain to them that we have never had the policed call on any of our 10 other very public get-togethers.

If it were true that they were getting call after call, then I would say just having 1 car stay within a block would be a good way to save time. Their policy is even if they know where we are, they have to respond to every call, since the call may be about something serious that happens to be going on nearby. If we move through town, I'm quite sure they will get some calls. He also said that if people see the officer nearby, it'll probably settle them down.

Then again, if they're bull@#$%ting us about getting calls, you're absolutely right. We can find out, I suppose, if they show up. Finding out who called, or getting the records, could be very helpful. I think if they do try anything, we can have the Daily or Ann Arbor News do something.

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 03:05 am
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Rogue9er wrote: Venator wrote: Rogue9er wrote: He then came up with the idea of just keeping one car within a block's distance of us, just to save time. I thought that was fair.  or is planning some trouble. I suppose we'll find out.

Sounds like Warren all over again.  Fair, what the hell is wrong with you.  We can't stop them from having a cop come to the picnic and baby sit us all day, if the want to waste resources on us.....sounds like poor management of funds to me. 

As for 911 calls, of all the picnics we have had, only Warren PD was on call and that was more intimidation than protecting us and only because it was in the paper before the event.  We have yet to have the police called on us by a citizen.  The 911 call fallacy has got to be addressed.  When the police use that statement explain to them that we have never had the policed call on any of our 10 other very public get-togethers.

If it were true that they were getting call after call, then I would say just having 1 car stay within a block would be a good way to save time. Their policy is even if they know where we are, they have to respond to every call, since the call may be about something serious that happens to be going on nearby. If we move through town, I'm quite sure they will get some calls. He also said that if people see the officer nearby, it'll probably settle them down.

Then again, if they're bull@#$%ting us about getting calls, you're absolutely right. We can find out, I suppose, if they show up. Finding out who called, or getting the records, could be very helpful. I think if they do try anything, we can have the Daily or Ann Arbor News do something.

Come on, the 911 call excuse is a red herring for the real reason they want a car nearby, to spy on us.  Sugar coat it any way you want, but 911 calls on a person OCing are rare given the thousands of hours that people OC.  And the checking on every call is crap too.  If the the so called caller tells them it's a bunch of people in Wheeler park carrying guns, how many times do the police have to "check us out" to make sure it's "not something else".  It's all crap and deep down you know it is too.

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 03:26 am
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Venator wrote: Rogue9er wrote: Venator wrote: Rogue9er wrote: He then came up with the idea of just keeping one car within a block's distance of us, just to save time. I thought that was fair.  or is planning some trouble. I suppose we'll find out.

Sounds like Warren all over again.  Fair, what the hell is wrong with you.  We can't stop them from having a cop come to the picnic and baby sit us all day, if the want to waste resources on us.....sounds like poor management of funds to me. 

As for 911 calls, of all the picnics we have had, only Warren PD was on call and that was more intimidation than protecting us and only because it was in the paper before the event.  We have yet to have the police called on us by a citizen.  The 911 call fallacy has got to be addressed.  When the police use that statement explain to them that we have never had the policed call on any of our 10 other very public get-togethers.

If it were true that they were getting call after call, then I would say just having 1 car stay within a block would be a good way to save time. Their policy is even if they know where we are, they have to respond to every call, since the call may be about something serious that happens to be going on nearby. If we move through town, I'm quite sure they will get some calls. He also said that if people see the officer nearby, it'll probably settle them down.

Then again, if they're bull@#$%ting us about getting calls, you're absolutely right. We can find out, I suppose, if they show up. Finding out who called, or getting the records, could be very helpful. I think if they do try anything, we can have the Daily or Ann Arbor News do something.

Come on, the 911 call excuse is a red herring for the real reason they want a car nearby, to spy on us.  Sugar coat it any way you want, but 911 calls on a person OCing are rare given the thousands of hours that people OC.  And the checking on every call is crap too.  If the the so called caller tells them it's a bunch of people in Wheeler park carrying guns, how many times do the police have to "check us out" to make sure it's "not something else".  It's all crap and deep down you know it is too.

Well I'm sorry, lol. I have a tendency to be rather credulous. Should I call them tomorrow and tell them not to? Besides, what do we care if they're "spying" on us? Eventually, if we do this enough, they'll get bored.

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 03:38 am
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Rogue9er wrote: Well I'm sorry, lol. I have a tendency to be rather credulous. Should I call them tomorrow and tell them not to? Besides, what do we care if they're "spying" on us? Eventually, if we do this enough, they'll get bored.
Yes call them and say "badges...Badges...we don't need no stinkin' badges.  Seriously I don't like it when government agent spy on me...taking picture, listening in with those listening in thingies.  Call me paranoid....no I'm mean it, call me paranoid.

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 03:38 am
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They will do what they want to do regardless, I really don't think what you told them had any impact on how they plan to prepare for the event. 

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 06:44 am
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Though nearly impossible, I'll try to keep a smile on my face all day for their pictures and/or videos. :?

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 12:24 pm
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Venator wrote: Rogue9er wrote: Well I'm sorry, lol. I have a tendency to be rather credulous. Should I call them tomorrow and tell them not to? Besides, what do we care if they're "spying" on us? Eventually, if we do this enough, they'll get bored.
Yes call them and say "badges...Badges...we don't need no stinkin' badges.  Seriously I don't like it when government agent spy on me...taking picture, listening in with those listening in thingies.  Call me paranoid....no I'm mean it, call me paranoid.

Reality check my thoughts may p o  some so if they want to have police officer stand by !   Invite           that officer to break bread [hang out] [spy] [socialize] [ report back what ?] to headquarters ?   Educate what is there to hide ? I personally believe you make peace with open arms and communication   rather than actions .When you dive and marked police car is in next lane do  YOU  wet yourself ? World is not perfect lets try to change this in A2 today PLEASE !

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 12:53 pm
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Good idea...let them know that the only way they will be welcome is if they come over and have a hot dog with us.

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 12:55 pm
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dougwg wrote: Good idea...let them know that the only way they will be welcome is if they come over and have a hot dog with us.

What if they like cheesecake ?

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 12:57 pm
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If they touch MY cheesecake, the fight will be on! :P

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 01:05 pm
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dougwg wrote: Good idea...let them know that the only way they will be welcome is if they come over and have a hot dog with us.

On more serious note . Everybody talks .eats ,educates and what if WE make a GREAT impression on everyone ? Please let all know if you got a badge come eat and exchange thoughts ! Plus if where good may show us there radar Gun ! or laser phaser no taser PLEASE !

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 02:08 pm
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I forgot my damn holster at my friend's apartment after going to the range the other week and when I stopped by there this morning he'd already left for work. So unless anyone has a spare 1911 holster laying around that I could borrow today I might just be CC'ing. Although I'm about to drop in at the gun show in Taylor and I might pick one up there if I find one cheap enough in a style that I like.

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 02:14 pm
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I have an Uncle Mike's Kydex holster I will bring along in you need to borrow it.

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 02:17 pm
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What a B-E-A-utiful (Jim Carrey voice) day for a picnic. See you all there.

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TheSzerdi wrote: I forgot my damn holster at my friend's apartment after going to the range the other week and when I stopped by there this morning he'd already left for work. So unless anyone has a spare 1911 holster laying around that I could borrow today I might just be CC'ing. Although I'm about to drop in at the gun show in Taylor and I might pick one up there if I find one cheap enough in a style that I like.

Szerdi, I have a pancake type, leather, S&W holster with thumb break for 1911's you may use.  I'll be carrying my Glock for A2 and will not need it for today.  Let me know soon if you want me to bring it.

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 02:21 pm
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Please put me down as confired with 2 guests...

I will bring potato salad, and chips...

 

 

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 03:32 pm
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Sorry guys, no homemade cheesecake is going to be with the rugers today.  :?  There is this stupid thing called "work" that has been really kicking my butt lately!  I will be bringing a dessert of some sort, but it will have been made by the ladies with the plastic baggies covering their hair at the grocery store or maybe by the Keebler elves!  See you folks in a few hours!  :celebrate

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 03:33 pm
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I almost forgot, I WILL have my camera!!  It's on the charger now.

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 04:22 pm
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I'm in as well. I've got two other friends that will probably come.


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