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T Vance
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 Posted: Tue Aug 4th, 2009 10:47 pm
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Why isn't this "stickied" anymore?

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 Posted: Wed Aug 5th, 2009 12:33 am
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Probably because it's linked to in a sticky some where, and one of the mods is helping to get rid of the clutter at the top of the page.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 5th, 2009 07:08 am
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This needs to be re-stickied or added to one of the other stickies!

I sent the following to Mike requesting it be stickied again. If someone knows why it shouldn't be speak up :lol:

Hey Mike sorry to bother you but over on the MI forum we have a thread that was removed from our stickies! I feel that it was removed in error and wanted to know who removed and if it could be re-stickied? It is one of the threads that we send most of our new OCers to to help them learn how to deal with Terry Stops.

Thread link here. http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=17262&forum_id=30&jump_to=493710#p493710

Thanks Ryan  Ransom AKA Autosurgeon

Last edited on Wed Aug 5th, 2009 07:14 am by autosurgeon

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 Posted: Wed Aug 5th, 2009 05:29 pm
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 Posted: Fri Aug 14th, 2009 07:34 pm
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Good topic. I recently had a not so great experience with Hammond Indiana police. I'm looking a digital voice recorders. What out of this list from Walmart would you guys recommend?

http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_constraint=0&ic=48_0&search_query=digital+voice+recorder&Find.x=0&Find.y=0

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 Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2009 03:16 am
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aikidoka wrote: Good topic. I recently had a not so great experience with Hammond Indiana police. I'm looking a digital voice recorders. What out of this list from Walmart would you guys recommend?

http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_constraint=0&ic=48_0&search_query=digital+voice+recorder&Find.x=0&Find.y=0
I'd recommend starting another thread in either a state, or general forums on this board. The topic has been covered before, but it's been a year or two, and the technology has improved since then.

I have this one and like it.
http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/cpg_archived_product_details.asp?fl=2&id=1322

Got it at Sam's Club for about $60.

Here's some past threads:

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum30/25496.html

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum62/24566.html

This is a good one:
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum62/11463.html


I like mine. Battery life seems good, downloads easy and acts as a USB storage drive. Long record time and good sound quality. It's also slim line.

Olympus and Sony seem to be the ones that get good reviews. Don't know about the RCA's myself, but like I said, "start a thread and get reports from users".


ETA:

Oh look! Here's another one.
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum30/29907.html


Last edited on Sat Aug 15th, 2009 03:17 am by ghostrider

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 Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2009 03:20 am
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Thanks, I should have at least searched first. I appreciate the links.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2009 03:24 am
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aikidoka wrote: Thanks, I should have at least searched first. I appreciate the links.Don't sweat it with me. I don't do well with this search engine anyway.

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 Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2009 12:33 am
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What is it with terry stops that say they should not last anymore than 20 minutes? As i have not had any encounters with LEOs i am just curious to the benefit. Thanx Much.
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 Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2009 01:52 am
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manicdevery wrote: What is it with terry stops that say they should not last anymore than 20 minutes? As i have not had any encounters with LEOs i am just curious to the benefit. Thanx Much.
Devery
They can be longer, but the longer they go, the more the officer has to justify his actions. There really is no specified time limit, but they cannot just hold you indefinitely.

Either way, it really doesn't matter to the person who is being detained except that he needs to keep track of things like that. It's just one of those things that the lawyer will sort out.

Try reading Boston T. Party's, "You and The Police".

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 Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2009 02:57 am
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thank you thank you. love all the info from people on this forum

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 Posted: Fri Jan 15th, 2010 01:34 am
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Ok, Im confused, again. I was reading this in another thread :

Taping a conversation
Mich. Comp. Laws § 750.539c: A private conversation legally cannot be overheard or recorded without the consent of all participants. Illegal eavesdropping can be punished as a felony carrying a jail term of up to two years and a fine of up to $2,000.


so, if I get a digital voice/video recorder, amd record a police confrontation, why is this not a felony? Is this considered a public conversation? I diddnt think anything could become public record until after a relevant case was closed.

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 Posted: Fri Jan 15th, 2010 01:54 am
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stainless1911 wrote: Ok, Im confused, again. I was reading this in another thread :

Taping a conversation
Mich. Comp. Laws § 750.539c: A private conversation legally cannot be overheard or recorded without the consent of all participants. Illegal eavesdropping can be punished as a felony carrying a jail term of up to two years and a fine of up to $2,000.


so, if I get a digital voice/video recorder, amd record a police confrontation, why is this not a felony? Is this considered a public conversation? I diddnt think anything could become public record until after a relevant case was closed.


Key words in the statue: private conversation

Any place/area considered to be private such as, for example, a persons office, home, etc.  The parking lot of Wally World or on the side of a road would not constitute a private place/area where consent is required.

"so, if I get a digital voice/video recorder, amd record a police confrontation" this part is legal in Michigan for you to record as long as you gave yourself permission to do so (One Party State) and the place/area you're in/at is not considered private.

 

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 Posted: Fri Jan 15th, 2010 07:33 am
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stainless1911 wrote: Ok, Im confused, again. I was reading this in another thread :

Taping a conversation
Mich. Comp. Laws § 750.539c: A private conversation legally cannot be overheard or recorded without the consent of all participants. Illegal eavesdropping can be punished as a felony carrying a jail term of up to two years and a fine of up to $2,000.


so, if I get a digital voice/video recorder, amd record a police confrontation, why is this not a felony? Is this considered a public conversation? I diddnt think anything could become public record until after a relevant case was closed.


It is not a felony because you are not eavesdropping.  Eavesdropping is defined as "to listen secretly to the private conversation of others."  If you are involved in the conversation you cannot, by definition, be eavesdropping.

Bronson

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 Posted: Fri Jan 15th, 2010 12:46 pm
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So, if I am in a police interrogation room, I can say, "I do not consent to the taping of this conversation?"

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 Posted: Fri Jan 15th, 2010 02:35 pm
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There have been threads on this topic already. If you want to start a discussion on it, start a new thread please.

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 Posted: Fri Jan 15th, 2010 03:33 pm
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My apologies, I diddnt think this was off topic, but I understand now. Thanks guys:)

I just expect the police to always be looking for a way to screw you.

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 Posted: Tue Feb 16th, 2010 01:57 am
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im thrown off by the taperecorder thing..that kinda sounds like your asking for trouble and i dont think that would hold up..and the the part about if your driving..well theres laws on driving with it..(if u dont have a cpl u cannot drive with it) u can OC but as soon as u enter a vehicle it has to be emptied and put in your trunk.only when headed to a range or getting it fixed ect..if someone with you has a cpl they can transport it for you if you wanted to OC somewhere else..again this is michigan laws.im unfamiliar with some of the other states laws

 

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 Posted: Tue Feb 16th, 2010 02:21 am
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Please start a new thread with your questions about Wash Rinse Repeat.

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autosurgeon wrote: Please start a new thread with your questions about Wash Rinse Repeat.Yes, please do. Not exactly a best "first post".


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