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Shawn
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Posted: Wed Jan 28th, 2009 02:42 am |
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Ok..new year, new push.
Steven Tilley has sponsored this bill for the last two years and is now the Majority Floor Leader! We need the same bill introduced and I need everybody to email him and get him to sponsor this again and push for it!!
Kevin Englar will not sponsor this bill (we need another Senator - Ideas?).
The old HB 2546 should be used again, but the verbiage on the title of the bill should have this wording below, to the effect of:
Requires political subdivisions to incorporate the justifiable use of force defenses into local ordinances regarding weapon offenses and establishes complete firearm preemption.
Of course, I don't think he has any say over what is put into the titles, but you can include it in your emails!
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tjgmba
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Posted: Fri Feb 6th, 2009 01:49 pm |
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Shawn, thanks for bringing this up again this year. I will email my Senator, Scott Rupp (Dist. #2, just West of StL).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090205/ap_on_go_pr_wh/congress_stimulus_126.
I'll ask him for his sponsorship. Just curios, though, why do we need another sponser?
Tom Grady
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tjgmba
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Posted: Fri Feb 6th, 2009 07:06 pm |
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Shawn, here's an email I sent to Scott Rupp. I'll let everyone know his reaction. And if anyone out there can add anything to my observations that I might use in future communications with reps and sens, please don't be shy. KIP.
TG
"Scott, thanks. Your support of the The Second is wonderful. Now, how about
helping us and sponsor Steve Tilley (106) on HB2546. This is a link to last
year's version:
http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/bills081/bills/hb2546.htm.
There's a strong group of conceal carry citizens who are trying to get the
same premeption status for open carry passed in the legislature. Right now
each govt. entity can pass its own laws, causing great confusion and
unnecssary brushes with statutes. Example: St. Chas. Cnty allows open
carry. So does Chesterfield. But Ballwin and St.L. cnty do not. Moving
from one entity to another becomes difficult.
Your thoughts, please?
Tom Grady
314-346-3548
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Shawn
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Posted: Sat Feb 7th, 2009 02:58 am |
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tjgmba,
We need it introduced it in the House and Senate. They each pass their version, hopefully one and the same, then conference if needed and send it to the governor. I'll see if Tilley will do it again!
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Shawn
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Posted: Sat Feb 7th, 2009 03:43 am |
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From:
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:42 PM
To: 'Steven.Tilley@house.mo.gov'
Cc:
Subject: Firearm Preemption Legislation
Representative Tilley,
Hello again, I write to you in hopes that you will be able to again sponsor legislation to make minor changes in the firearm preemption statue - RSMo 21.750. I believe that only the state should regulate, if needed and permissible, the issue of firearms, as it is a constitutionally protected right. Also, the issue of incorporating the justifiable use of force defenses into local ordinances is needed. For the past two years, you have sponsored HB 1045 (2007) and HB 2546 (2008) and I hope you will again sponsor this legislation.
If you are able to sponsor this again, I would like to ask, if possible, that the title of the bill look like this: Requires political subdivisions to incorporate the justifiable use of force defenses into local ordinances regarding weapon offenses and establishes complete firearm preemption. I believe from past conversations that this isn’t handled by your staff, but would like to offer the suggestion non the less. Simply reusing the HB 2546 version would be great.
I look forward to hear back from you when you have time.
Thank you,
Shawn
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Carnivore
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Posted: Tue Feb 10th, 2009 03:58 am |
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| I followed up !!
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Johnyt101
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Posted: Fri Feb 13th, 2009 12:56 am |
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It would be a great day if this bill passes, just think MO a Gold Star State!
Now only if I had the right to carry openly or concealed here in Illinois...
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Carnivore
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Posted: Fri Feb 13th, 2009 01:43 am |
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| Move west my friend, and bring your Tax Dollars with you..
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Shawn
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Posted: Fri Feb 13th, 2009 04:19 am |
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I can't be more happy with Steven Tilley...we really need him to run for Governor. Here is what I got back...Please follow up with an email to him if you would to thank him for his continued support. We also need to follow up with emails to Representative Scott Largent. Here is his home page.
From: Leann Hager [mailto:Leann.Hager@house.mo.gov] On Behalf Of Steven Tilley
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:11 PM
To: shawn
Subject: RE: Firearm Preemption Legislation
Shawn
Thank you for the email. I have spoke with Rep. Scott Largent and he has agreed to sponsor this particular legislation this year. As Majority Floor Leader, I try to stay away from sponsoring too much legislation, due to the position that I hold. However, when there is a piece of legislation that I feel would be good, I try and find someone else to sponsor it, as I have done with this particular one.
Again, thank you for the email.
Steven Tilley
Majority Floor Leader
Missouri House of Representatives
District 106
Ph: (573) 751-1488
Fax: (573) 526-0881
Last edited on Fri Feb 13th, 2009 05:38 am by Shawn
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tjgmba
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Posted: Sat Feb 14th, 2009 03:43 pm |
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Sent this to Scott Largent today (2-14):
Scott, I want to thank you for sponsering the open carry legislation. Steve Tilley did so last year. I have emailed my senator, Scott Rupp, to see if he will do the same in the Senate. I haven't heard back from him yet. Can you suggest another Senator who might be of the same beliefs to do so in the Senate. Thomas Grady 314-346-3548
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Shawn
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Posted: Tue Feb 17th, 2009 03:36 am |
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tjgmba wrote: Sent this to Scott Largent today (2-14):
tjgmba...I sent him an email today...I didn't see anything up on his website yet...I'll let you guys know if I hear anything back. I will also call him later this week if he doesn't reply back.
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Shawn
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Posted: Tue Feb 17th, 2009 04:04 am |
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WOW...That was fast:
From: Scott Largent [mailto:Scott.Largent@house.mo.gov]
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:41 PM
To: shawn
Subject: RE: Firearm Preemption Legislation
No number yet but I will let you know when filed.
Thanks for the email
Scott
I say we send him emails and let him know there is a lot of support for this bill! Call his office if you can during the day.
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Shawn
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Posted: Wed Feb 18th, 2009 02:50 am |
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Team,
If you haven't already, please send Rep Largent an email or give him a call and ask about the bill and thank him for his sponsorship. I think April 1st is going to be the day for Gun Owners to show up and talk to your representatives.
Here are some links to track this: http://www.house.mo.gov/content.aspx?info=/bills091/spon/spn120.htm
Representative Scott Largent District 120 (R)
573-751-1484 Phone 573-522-5598 Fax Scott.Largent@house.mo.gov
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Mike
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Posted: Wed Feb 18th, 2009 06:26 pm |
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| One of you MO guys please take charge of organizing alert items for folks to contact THIR legislators once this bill gets filed - see the texas laert on main page as an example.
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Carnivore
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Posted: Wed Feb 18th, 2009 08:06 pm |
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| Shawn, I copy and pasted your post and the links in a composed e-mail to everyone in my address box who lives in Mo. and all from out of state that travel through Missouri..
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Shawn
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Posted: Thu Feb 26th, 2009 03:05 am |
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Its going to be House Bill 875. Please send an email to your Representative and please thank those that have already sponsored the bill...here is the link to help you look them up.
http://www.senate.mo.gov/llookup/leg_lookup.aspx
http://www.house.mo.gov/
http://www.senate.mo.gov/
Attachment: HB0875I.pdf (Downloaded 86 times)
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Steelviper
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Posted: Thu Feb 26th, 2009 06:38 pm |
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Message and reply quoted below. A form response, but at least a human read it and hopefully she keeps some sort of a count.
Linda Kerns <Linda.Kerns@house.mo.gov> Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:30 PM
To: Matt <steelviper@gmail.com>
Thank you for sharing your comments about HB 875.
Linda Kerns
Legislative Assistant to
Jim Viebrock
State Representative 134
Toll Free- 866.670.2151
Phone- 573.751.2381
Fax- 573.526.9882
From: Matt [mailto:steelviper@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:05 PM
To: Jim Viebrock
Subject: House Bill 875
I was just writing to let you know that any support that you could lend to House Bill 875, the bill concerning state-wide preemption of firearms related laws. Missouri is currently a patchwork of conflicting and confusing laws depending on where you're at. A more uniform standard would benefit both those trying to enforce as well as those trying to follow the law. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help get this bill passed.
Matt
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deepdiver
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Posted: Thu Feb 26th, 2009 08:46 pm |
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Emailed my rep and senator. Below is the email I sent to my rep. I made some changes to my senator asking for "active support" assuming it passes the House. Some may object to my invoking anything about concealed carry into my email, however, I thought it important to acknowledge it and address it as I would expect opponents to point to CCW preemption and say, "This is already taken care of here."
Dear Representative _______:
I'm writing to ask your support of HB 875, state-wide firearm preemption, this legislative term. Despite certain preemptions for concealed carry, Missouri remains a patchwork of conflicting and confusing firearm laws which could lead to a law abiding, conscientious citizen inadvertently committing a crime. Many states such as Pennsylvania, Virginia and Washington have such preemption laws to protect their law abiding citizen who choose to legally carry self-defense firearms from accidental violations for simply crossing a county or municipal boundary.
As you likely know, those of us who legally carry firearms for self-defense are among the most law abiding citizens in the nation with far lower rates of contact with law enforcement for even minor violations such as traffic tickets than the general population. That we law abiding citizens could inadvertently commit a serious crime leading to arrest, criminal charges, large legal expenses, incarceration, seizure of our firearm (many costing four figures) and possibly the loss of our right to bear arms merely by crossing a county or municipal boundary is frightening to many of us. State-wide preemption on all firearms laws (reasonably excepting regulating the discharge of firearms for non-defensive purposes) as set out in HB875 protects us from such unintended situations.
Thank you for your consideration
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Broondog
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Posted: Fri Feb 27th, 2009 06:26 am |
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hi. well i thought i was already here but the board doesn't recognize me.
anyway, i have sent emails to both Engler (my Sen) and Fallert (my rep) about this. i wish this gets some play this year. due to the wording of the CC law, i am unable to attain a CC permit, so open carry is my only alternative. it really sucks having to pay attention to exactly where i am when i get out of my truck.
i will be watching this Bill closely, along with what's going on firearmwise on the national front.
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Broondog
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Posted: Fri Feb 27th, 2009 05:15 pm |
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i already heard back from Senator Engler....
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Thanks for writing Mr. Broondog, Sen. Engler has always been a strong supporter of the second amendment and protecting Missourians' rights to have firearms. I see HB 875 as no different and will support the bill.
Sincerely,
Mike Lodewegen Legislative Director, Sen. Kevin Engler
a positive response as i expected.
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