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Preemption Bill 2009
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nrepuyan
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 Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 10:57 pm
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so it's officially dead in the water indefinitely?

guess i'll be takin that ccw course and payin for something that should be free to do anyway.

Carnivore
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 Posted: Thu May 21st, 2009 02:42 am
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I was already scheduled for a CCW class, but I was hoping to get this Missouri patchwork of laws cleaned up to be uniform across the state. Different carry options for different reasons and wardrobe is always a good option,

I wonder if Citizens can unite and Sue the State of Missouri for allowing individual Municipalities to contradict the constitution of our state of residence. I'd like to be refunded all the State taxes I've paid in to a state that doesn't function as advertised!!

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 Posted: Thu May 21st, 2009 03:45 am
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We need to sue somebody. This is rediculous.

nrepuyan
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 Posted: Thu May 21st, 2009 03:54 am
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so what do we do now?

what's our courses of action now?

Carnivore
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 Posted: Thu May 21st, 2009 04:02 am
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Well Missouri has given me an agreement, as a resident of this state.

 The state constitution!

I'm a legal resident of this state, and pay the Taxes and fees required of me by the state of Missouri, Under the agreement that as a law abiding legal Citizen of the State of Missouri I/we should have a guarantee that the Constitution of Missouri be the first and foremost written law within it's boundarys..

Mike or Jpierce ya have any legal contacts for us to refer to concerning this ??

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 Posted: Thu May 21st, 2009 03:49 pm
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I believe that the restrictions on open carry by the various municipalities are unconstitutional per the MO Constitution and the Heller decision even though state law says they can.

http://www.moga.mo.gov/%5Cconst%5Ca01023.htm

 

BUT there is a MO Supreme decision ( I looked for it but couldn't find it) that says the city of Cape Girardeau could legally restrict open carry.

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 Posted: Thu May 21st, 2009 09:56 pm
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9026543 wrote: I believe that the restrictions on open carry by the various municipalities are unconstitutional per the MO Constitution and the Heller decision even though state law says they can.

http://www.moga.mo.gov/%5Cconst%5Ca01023.htm 

BUT there is a MO Supreme decision ( I looked for it but couldn't find it) that says the city of Cape Girardeau could legally restrict open carry.

Its a decision out of the eastern district.  It wasn't appealed to the MO Supreme court.  Joyce vs. Cape Girardeau, I think I've posted a link to the case in another thread, at least talked about it's content.

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 Posted: Fri May 22nd, 2009 01:27 am
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I was probably wrong as my memory gets sort of dim sometimes in my old age. If it was just an eastern district decision then a decision in the MO Supreme Court might have a good chance of declaring all the municipal ordinances against open carry illegal.

nrepuyan
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 Posted: Fri May 22nd, 2009 01:39 am
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and we do this how?

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 Posted: Fri May 22nd, 2009 03:37 am
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nrepuyan wrote: i guess we pray in the meantime??
No, you get organized, pick one or two state legislators who voted against you and get out and campaign for their opponent. It doesn't matter if you live in their district or not, get out there and go door to door campaigning for someone who will support your rights.

When your candidate wins, hold a news conference and make sure that the whole state knows that your organization will not tolerate having your RTKBA walked on. It only takes unseating a few anti-gunners for them to get the message.

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 Posted: Fri May 22nd, 2009 03:44 am
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anyone in the st louis area up for something like the aforementioned?


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