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lancers
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Posted: Fri Apr 17th, 2009 12:48 am |
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Awesome news. Do we know what the final vote was yet?
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nrepuyan
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Posted: Fri Apr 17th, 2009 03:51 pm |
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does anyone have a pre-made email to be used with the current bill moving on to the senate?
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BroadwayXD
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Posted: Fri Apr 17th, 2009 07:54 pm |
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house voted yes yesterday as is 105/50 on to senate
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lancers
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Posted: Fri Apr 17th, 2009 09:39 pm |
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Looks like 50 reps need to be replaced ASAP
AYES: 105
Allen
Aull
Biermann
Bivins
Brandom
Bringer
Brown 30
Brown 149
Bruns
Burlison
Calloway
Casey
Cooper
Cox
Cunningham
Davis
Day
Deeken
Denison
Dethrow
Dieckhaus
Diehl
Dixon
Dougherty
Dugger
Dusenberg
Emery
Ervin
Faith
Fallert
Fischer 107
Fisher 125
Flanigan
Flook
Frame
Franz
Funderburk
Gatschenberger
Grisamore
Guernsey
Guest
Harris
Hobbs
Hoskins 121
Hughes
Icet
Jones 89
Jones 117
Keeney
Kingery
Koenig
Komo
Kraus
Kuessner
Lair
Largent
Leara
Liese
Lipke
Loehner
McNary
Meadows
Molendorp
Munzlinger
Nance
Nieves
Nolte
Parkinson
Parson
Pollock
Pratt
Riddle
Ruestman
Ruzicka
Sander
Sater
Scavuzzo
Schaaf
Schad
Scharnhorst
Schieffer
Schlottach
Schoeller
Self
Shively
Silvey
Smith 14
Smith 150
Stevenson
Sutherland
Swinger
Thomson
Tilley
Tracy
Wallace
Wasson
Wells
Weter
Wilson 119
Wilson 130
Witte
Wood
Yates
Zerr
Mr Speaker
NOES: 050
Atkins
Brown 50
Brown 73
Burnett
Carter
Chappelle-Nadal
Colona
Corcoran
Curls
El-Amin
Englund
Hodges
Hoskins 80
Hummel
Kander
Kelly
Kirkton
Kratky
Lampe
LeBlanc
Low
McClanahan
McDonald
McGhee
McNeil
Meiners
Nasheed
Norr
Oxford
Pace
Quinn
Rucker
Schoemehl
Schupp
Skaggs
Spreng
Still
Storch
Stream
Talboy
Todd
Vogt
Walsh
Walton Gray
Webb
Webber
Wildberger
Wright
Yaeger
Zimmerman
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deepdiver
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Posted: Fri Apr 17th, 2009 10:37 pm |
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I have sent a thank you email to my rep and another request for support to my senator.
So, um, if this does pass the senate, what does everyone think the chance is that Nixon will sign it instead of veto?
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James357
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Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 12:02 am |
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| I have my fingers crossed but I don't expect him to sign it.
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James357
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Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 12:18 am |
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| Even with the bill winning ultimate House approval Thursday, the Senate could still strip Munzlinger's amendment or could filibuster the bill when it is considered. Although Republicans control Missouri's upper legislative chamber 23 to 11, state Rep. Jeff Roorda, D-Barnhart — who opposed the House bill — said he doesn't expect the amendment to survive through the Senate.
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flint99
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Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 12:34 am |
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Hey everyone! I am new on here but have reading the forums for a while! You all are doing a great job and are all great Americans! I live in Jefferson City and am very curious about OC here and have been asking and looking around for answers! I talked to a buddy of mine who is on JCPD and he said that OC in Jefferson City is legal and I also checked out the city ordinances online (http://www.cityofjefferson.net/search/search.cgi) and found this (http://www.cityofjefferson.net/data/chap18.pdf). To me it sounds like I can only open carry on my property or when traveling or hunting! If someone could please let me know what they think it would be very appreciated!
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Johnyt101
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Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 02:43 am |
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| Is a veto override likely? Would the Gov sign it without the amendment? I guess we will have to wait and see what the senate does.
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Shawn
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Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 04:17 am |
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This is when a Mcds song is in order...."I'm loving it" 
I'll type up a email response early next week and I'll get all of the senator's emails in an excel for everybody also. I'm OOO, so it will have to wait. We might have a fight in the Senate....but I'm not sure about that just yet.
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lancers
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Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 06:38 am |
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James357 wrote: Even with the bill winning ultimate House approval Thursday, the Senate could still strip Munzlinger's amendment or could filibuster the bill when it is considered. Although Republicans control Missouri's upper legislative chamber 23 to 11, state Rep. Jeff Roorda, D-Barnhart — who opposed the House bill — said he doesn't expect the amendment to survive through the Senate.
Expected the open carry amendment to fail? Where did you see this?
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James357
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Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 02:37 pm |
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Missouri: House votes to allow concealed weapons on college campuses Read More
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tjgmba
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Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 02:51 pm |
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Not sure I like this part of the bill. Not because I disagree with students' need/right to carry, but because this might be the very reason Nixon vetos the whole bill, thereby killing open carry.
Thoughts on this from others?
TG
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Carnivore
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Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 04:39 pm |
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tjgmba wrote: Not sure I like this part of the bill. Not because I disagree with students' need/right to carry, but because this might be the very reason Nixon vetos the whole bill, thereby killing open carry.
Thoughts on this from others?
TG
My sentiments exactly!! I know there's lots of the college population that is legitimately responsible, and of legal age, but any residences in college dormatory property, may have the potential to be in an irresponsible environment anytime parties and CCW are in the same environment, thats where the brakes will screech to a halt in my opinion.. just have to wait and see!
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Broondog
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 06:32 pm |
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this bill is already on the Senate calender for a second reading. anybody hear if it is being altered at all?
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9026543
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Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 02:05 pm |
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If HB 668 goes down in flames would a new court challenge to the unconstitutional local ordinances be in order?
Missouri Constitution Article I
BILL OF RIGHTS
Section 23
August 28, 2008
Right to keep and bear arms--exception.
Section 23. That the right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or when lawfully summoned in aid of the civil power, shall not be questioned; but this shall not justify the wearing of concealed weapons. Source: Const. of 1875, Art. II, § 17.
(2004) Section does not prohibit the General Assembly from enacting statutes allowing or disallowing the carrying of concealed weapons; the Concealed-Carry Act is therefore constitutional. Brooks v. State, 128 S.W.3d 844 (Mo.banc).
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nrepuyan
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Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 02:22 pm |
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Carnivore wrote: tjgmba wrote: Not sure I like this part of the bill. Not because I disagree with students' need/right to carry, but because this might be the very reason Nixon vetos the whole bill, thereby killing open carry.
Thoughts on this from others?
TG
My sentiments exactly!! I know there's lots of the college population that is legitimately responsible, and of legal age, but any residences in college dormatory property, may have the potential to be in an irresponsible environment anytime parties and CCW are in the same environment, thats where the brakes will screech to a halt in my opinion.. just have to wait and see! just re-voicing my opinion from a few posts ago...
...comments?
As I stated to a few coworkers of mine and some others that don't agree with the idea of college carry...my opinion is this....
When thinking about college carry concealed....
let's look at how much you have to go thru to obtain the permit to begin with...
quite a bit of stuff... 8hr class....125-150 for the class.....gotta buy the gun....then you gotta pay another 75-150 to apply for the permit....which involves going many different places?
it's my theory that most college kids being college kids are not going to be responsible/mature/motivated enough to go thru ALL of the steps....i mean seriously....take a look at some of the people you went to school with or went to college with.....how many of them actually wanted to go out of their way SPEND money on and take ANOTHER class and then wait for a permit?
not sure about you, but most people i knew of from age 21-25 you couldn't even motivate enough to do homework, get their books for classes or get the correct parking permit for that matter let alone expect them to know about or even go thru the process for CCW.
Therefore I believe that those responsible law biding citizens that wish to carry will and a majority of the students won't...and the students who do choose to carry will most likely be the older students / grad students possibly...ones that have demonstrated themselves to be adults.
anyone elses thoughts? i myself, am only 23....24 in july but this is truely what i believe on the CCW on campus. I don't honestly believe that it has anything to do with students whatsoever....it's just an easy excuse to use if you feel you are too far on one side of the fence or the other.
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Shawn
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Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 10:31 pm |
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Broondog wrote: this bill is already on the Senate calender for a second reading. anybody hear if it is being altered at all?
Broon,
After it passes its second reading it will go to a committee and then have amendments added or removed.
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Shawn
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Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 11:22 pm |
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Info on status of bill:
http://house.mo.gov/content.aspx?info=/bills091/action/aHB668.htm
Sample email:
Senator “name”,
I’m writing to you today to ask that you support HB668. This bill will do a couple of things and I would like to point them out to you.
1. The bill will specify when deadly force can be used on “Private Property” (RSMo 563).
2. The bill will lower the age limit from 23 to 21 for a ccw license and allow a Sheriff to charge $10 for either a name or change of address to the license.
3. Antique firearms, as defined in Federal law, are exempt from the weapon statues.
4. Removes higher institutions from the places a valid ccw license holder may carry and
5. Will ensure that all political subdivisions will incorporate state law by adopting ordinances consistent with the weapons offenses in Sections 571.010 - 571.070, RSMo, and with the justification defenses in Chapter 563, except that political subdivisions are allowed to prohibit illegal immigrants from selling, purchasing, transferring, owning, using, or possessing firearms, components, or ammunition.
Please let me know if you have any questions about this legislation and if you will be able to vote for its passage.
Respectfully,
Attachment: Senators Info.pdf (Downloaded 17 times)
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 08:29 pm |
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