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HYRYSC
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Posted: Mon Jul 27th, 2009 09:55 pm |
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Yep, that is what I was looking for. I applaud your google-fu! Mine is not so strong.
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ComSec
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Posted: Mon Jul 27th, 2009 09:56 pm |
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Posted: Mon Jul 27th, 2009 10:53 pm |
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Just a note to let you'all know to keep up the good work.
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HYRYSC
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Posted: Tue Jul 28th, 2009 02:41 am |
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Ok ComSec, I think that I have another one for you. Here is the link for the muni codes for Fair Grove, MO. It is dated August 28, 2008, so unless it has changed, open carry is good to go as long as (you guessed it) you have a valid concealed carry license. I will make a few phone calls to verify that information is still current. If anyone else can corroborate, it would be greatly appreciated.
http://codes.sullivanpublications.com/fairgrove-slp/
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ComSec
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Posted: Tue Jul 28th, 2009 02:46 am |
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yea you have to have a CCW to OC there
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Posted: Tue Jul 28th, 2009 06:37 am |
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Yah neosho is good. Have talked to some there that do open carry.
Dont know about whole of Newton County but I believe it is a go to.
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Posted: Tue Jul 28th, 2009 02:10 pm |
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You know, after reading it and re-reading it, I am no so sure about having to have a CCW to OC in Fair Grove. Please see the following excerpts.
SECTION 210.250: WEAPONS -- CARRYING CONCEALED -- OTHER UNLAWFUL USE A. A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons if he/she knowingly:
1. Carries concealed upon or about his/her person a knife, a firearm, a blackjack or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use;
2. Sets a spring gun;
3. Discharges or shoots a firearm;
4. Exhibits, in the presence of one or more persons, any weapon readily capable of lethal use in an angry or threatening manner;
5. Possesses a firearm or projectile weapon while intoxicated;
6. Openly carries a firearm or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use;
7. Carries a firearm, whether loaded or unloaded, or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use into any school, onto any school bus, or onto the premises of any function or activity sponsored or sanctioned by school officials or the district school board.
Then we have this
E. Subparagraphs (3), (4), (5), (6) and (7) of Subsection (A) of this Section shall not apply to persons who are engaged in a lawful act of defense pursuant to Section 563.031, RSMo.
So it appears as if a person that is lawfully engaging in defense would have an affirmation in Subsection (E) whether or not they currently have a CCW.
Odd that even subparagraph 5 would not apply
What do y'all think? Seems that basically carrying concealed and setting a spring gun are the only things that would apply to someone engaging in a lawful act of defense.
Also, ComSec, I don't know if you noticed, but Fair Grove is on your list as Open Carry Illegal.
Last edited on Tue Jul 28th, 2009 02:19 pm by HYRYSC
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Mack 12ga.
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Posted: Sat Aug 1st, 2009 06:56 am |
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I am going up to Bolivar in a couple weeks to visit some friends, they have ccw but don't open carry, I would like to encourage them to oc while I'm up there so does any one know if Bolivar is cool for oc ??
And while I'm at it does any one on this site live in the area of Bolivar. would be cool to get to gather  .
Last edited on Sat Aug 1st, 2009 06:57 am by Mack 12ga.
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ComSec
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Posted: Sat Aug 1st, 2009 07:02 am |
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call city hall and ask if there is a Ord against it make sure they look, I ask if they can read off the Weapons Offenses to me. so they dont know what im looking for
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Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2009 02:31 pm |
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You have Troy, MO listed as No-Go.
I have OC'ed there almost everyday for the past year. (Even while talking to LEO's)
Have I been breaking the law? I can't seem to find any city or county ordinance against it.
I've also talked to a Bowling Green Sheriff while OC'ing in Bowling Green, and he said there is nothing against it.
I've also OC'ed in Hannibal. You have Hannibal listed as No-Go, and I'm completely clueless to their city code.
I'm currently searching. I'll update this post if I find the answer myself.
Update: The only thing I could find for Hannibal was this:
Sec. 16-155. Exhibition of dangerous weapons.
No person shall go into any church or place where people have assembled for religious worship, or into any schoolroom or place where people are assembled for educational, political, literary or social purposes, or to any election precinct on any election day, or into any courtroom during the sitting of court, or into any other public assemblage of persons met for any lawful purpose other than for militia drill, or meetings called under militia law of this state, having exposed upon or about his person, any kind of firearms, bowie knife, spring-back knife, razor, metal knucks, billy, sword cane, dirk, dagger, slingshot or other similar deadly weapons or in the presence of one or more persons, exhibit any such weapons in his possession when intoxicated, or directly or indirectly, sell or deliver, loan or barter to any minor any such weapon, without the consent of the parent or guardian of such minor. Nothing contained in this section shall apply to legally qualified sheriffs, police officers and other persons whose bona fide duty is to execute process, civil or criminal, make arrests, or aid in conserving the public peace, nor to persons traveling in a continuous journey peaceably through this city.
(Code 1963, § 301.430; Code 1988, § 16-151; Ord. No. 3296, § 2, 1-4-1983)
State law references: Unlawful use of weapons, RSMo 301.430.
nor to persons traveling in a continuous journey peaceably through this city.
This seems vague.Last edited on Wed Aug 12th, 2009 02:48 pm by Superlite27
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ComSec
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Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2009 06:51 pm |
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I check my finding and will update it, if the code is to confusing I hit NO GO, but if you OC there and the code does not say directly you cant OC I will change them over
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HYRYSC
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Posted: Tue Aug 25th, 2009 08:00 pm |
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Ok, after my crazy life allowed me a quick phone call to the Fair Grove City Hall, it is confirmed that the Sullivan Publications of the codes are still valid as they are posted above and here.
http://codes.sullivanpublications.com/fairgrove-slp/
Then just do a search for "Firearms" and it will bring up the relevant sections.
Last edited on Tue Aug 25th, 2009 08:03 pm by HYRYSC
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Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 04:31 am |
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If I may, this is probably one of the Most useful website's I have come across in a very long time. As I live in Missouri...Kansas City...there is lot's of violence in this city and almost every day, someone get's killed. Most of the time, it is not the person who it was intended...usually some innocent party...little kid's...older folk's etc. So, I usually carry a gun in the car and have often wondered if I could do so without getting arrested and or having my gun confuscated? I would like to that the web master for this most informative forem. It is MOst appreciated...Thank you so much for this.
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ComSec
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Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 04:35 am |
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Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 07:01 pm |
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| Does anyone know what the laws are for OC in Monett, MO?
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Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 07:46 pm |
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Just go to city hall and ask to review the codes on weapons offenses. See if they can make a copy for you to take with you so you can read it in depth at your leisure.
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Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 11:37 pm |
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| You have Branson listed as a no OC city. However, if I I am reading the ordinance right, 58.79 (e) OC IS PERMITTED with a concealed carry permit.
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ComSec
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Posted: Thu Aug 27th, 2009 12:19 am |
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this is made for people that DONT have a permit
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Posted: Thu Aug 27th, 2009 03:36 pm |
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O.K. is there a law prohibiting cities from banning OC for permit holders? As I said on another post I cannot find the law that permits regulation of OC. Neither can the AG office.
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Sorrows
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Posted: Sat Sep 12th, 2009 07:40 pm |
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Apparently you have to have a CCW to open carry in Marshall.  Another year and a half for me.
I asked a cop.Last edited on Sat Sep 12th, 2009 07:43 pm by Sorrows
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