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1 out of 3 is not good, Legislative Session
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VAopencarry
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 Posted: Thu Apr 5th, 2007 07:54 pm
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HB420- Exempt Firearms made in Montana and stays in Montana from the Federal Commerce Clause- Tabled in the Senate Judicuary Committee.

HB340- Citizen Self Defense- Tabled in Senate Judicary Committee, motion for a 2d reading failed.

SB309 - Prohibit confiscation of firearms during a declared emergency- Returned to the Senate with amendments. I don't know what the amendments are but this should pass, it left the Senate the first time with a 96% Yes vote.

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 Posted: Thu Apr 5th, 2007 11:49 pm
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Let me say that most of the state is probably for these bills.  The problem lies with the representatives/senators from the cities that are full of tree huggers and out of state transplant democrats....(go figure....)

All we can do is sit and wait unfortunately.  We really need these bills to help solidify our rights more than they already are.

 

Matt

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 Posted: Fri Apr 6th, 2007 12:03 am
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VAopencarry wrote: HB420- Exempt Firearms made in Montana and stays in Montana from the Federal Commerce Clause- Tabled in the Senate Judicuary Committee.

HB340- Citizen Self Defense- Tabled in Senate Judicary Committee, motion for a 2d reading failed.

SB309 - Prohibit confiscation of firearms during a declared emergency- Returned to the Senate with amendments. I don't know what the amendments are but this should pass, it left the Senate the first time with a 96% Yes vote.

I can only hope that HB420 passes.  This would start years of litigation and is in a still liberal 10th circuit, but would make for some great case law.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 6th, 2007 02:18 am
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Thanks for the update, VAopencarry.

I think the Montana Guns was more of a position statement directed at Congress than a genuine gun bill.  I could be wrong, though.  They also had a bill directing state employees to ignore a number of provisions in the national RealID law.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 6th, 2007 03:35 am
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I agree that HB 420 would give Congress the willies! I wish we'd try that here.

 I'm trying to imagine a nice, sleek semi-auto pistol, made from Virginia iron and Virginia walnut, totally designed and manufactured here, and marked as such, then sold only to Virginians from the factory store.  Indeed, how could Congress regulate such a tool?  Their only power is to regulate INTERSTATE commerce.  We know they've abused that concept egregiously over the years, but I think the firearm mentioned above might make for some very interesting court battles regarding states' rights vs congressional usurpation.  It could event make it to the supreme court.

Think of the strokes that Bloomberg, Brady, Schumer and Hitlery would have.  Hell, even Trejbal would probably decide that Virginia is hopeless, and he'd move somewhere else to do his liberal missionary work!

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 Posted: Fri Apr 6th, 2007 04:30 am
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I agree HB 420 was most likely just to tell the feds to F-off. :D

HB340 should have passed.

Matt, I saw on another gun forum a Montanan called the city BozAngeles:lol:

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 Posted: Fri Apr 6th, 2007 04:30 pm
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VAopencarry wrote: Matt, I saw on another gun forum a Montanan called the city BozAngeles:lol:

I don't blame them :D

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 Posted: Fri Apr 6th, 2007 06:19 pm
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Sounds like they are invading the west, don't hear as much about it east of the mountains. BozAngeles, would be more funny if it wasn't true:(

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 Posted: Tue Apr 24th, 2007 04:41 am
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VAopencarry wrote: SB309 - Prohibit confiscation of firearms during a declared emergency- Returned to the Senate with amendments. I don't know what the amendments are but this should pass, it left the Senate the first time with a 96% Yes vote.


SB309 has passed the legislature, and has been sent to enrolling.

I can truly say I am happy that this has passed.

 

Matt

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 Posted: Thu Apr 26th, 2007 08:29 pm
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Thanks for the update, Matt.

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 Posted: Sun Jun 8th, 2008 06:03 am
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I haven't yet found whether these bills have passed yet but I found the text of the bills here http://www.umt.edu/law/Library/Bailiwick/2007/Mar2.pdf and you have to download a pdf which, if you scroll down to the top os page 4, it lists HB420 and HB340. Just clik on the numbers and it will download a text pdf of them. I didn't find anything there for SB 309 :( .

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 Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 07:57 pm
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If you want to find out what is going on with bills in the Montana legislature, try here:  http://leg.mt.gov/css/bills/default.asp

Using the search function you can find the bill of interest and learn all you need to know.

-P

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 Posted: Sat Jun 28th, 2008 03:14 am
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It is not just transplants in Bozeangeles. It doesn't help that many of the rural pro-gun ranchers sell out and will vote for any democrat since dems tend to be strong supporters of farm subsidies. 

Check it out

http://farm.ewg.org/sites/farm/

In my area I know many of the ranches that collect large subsidies and few are driving junk or hurting for money, but I would bet they vote democratic.


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