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JBinMontana
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Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 03:02 pm |
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Obama administration said Friday it will not appeal a federal court ruling that prohibits carrying loaded guns in national parks and wildlife refuges.
Instead, the Interior Department said it will conduct a full environmental review of an earlier policy that allowed concealed, loaded guns in parks and refuges.
U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly struck down the gun policy last month. She called the rule, issued in the waning days of the Bush administration, severely flawed and said officials failed to evaluate its possible environmental impacts, as required by law. The judge set an April 20 deadline for the Interior Department to indicate its likely response.
The Bush rule, which took effect in January, allowed visitors to carry a loaded gun into a park or wildlife refuge as long as the person had a permit for a concealed weapon and the state where the park or refuge was located allowed concealed firearms. Previously, guns in parks had been severely restricted.
Kendra Barkoff, a spokeswoman for Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, said Friday that the department is not completely discarding the Bush rule. Instead, she said that officials intend to complete a comprehensive environmental impact statement that analyzes the possible effects of the Bush rule, as well as a range of alternatives.
The review is expected to take several months at least. In the meantime, 26-year-old restrictions that had been in place before the rule change remain in effect.
Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, which filed a lawsuit to block the Bush rule, said he was pleased at the Obama administration's decision.
"Semiautomatic weapons have no place in the valleys of Yellowstone, on the cliffs of Yosemite or under the torch of the Statue of Liberty," he said.
Helmke said the government should not spend any more resources analyzing the old Bush rule, but added: "We hope and expect that the Obama administration will conclude that the rule can only make our parks more dangerous and should not be implemented."
In her 44-page ruling last month, Kollar-Kotelly called the rule-making process used by the Bush Interior Department "astoundingly flawed." She noted that officials failed to perform an environmental assessment, which calls for the government to take into account such factors as public safety and the "human environment."
Even without an appeal by the Obama administration, the court case is likely to continue. The National Rifle Association has filed a separate appeal of the ruling. A spokesman has said the group will pursue all legal and legislative avenues "to defend the American people's right to self-defense."
Meanwhile, lawmakers who support gun-owners' rights have introduced legislation to reinstate the Bush rule. Bills introduced by Sen. Mike Crapo, R-Idaho, and Rep. Doc Hastings, R-Wash., would allow citizens to carry concealed firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges. Crapo's bill is co-sponsored by Montana Democrats Max Baucus and Jon Tester, Democratic Arkansas Sen. Blanche Lincoln as well as Republican Sen. Robert Bennett of Utah. Two dozen House members - all but one Republican - have co-sponsored the House bill. Rep. Glenn Nye of Virginia is the sole Democrat to back the bill.
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NavyLT
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Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 05:48 pm |
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"Semiautomatic weapons have no place in the valleys of Yellowstone, on the cliffs of Yosemite or under the torch of the Statue of Liberty," he said.
Just how the heck do you suppose the statue of liberty got there in the first place? Seems to me that it was a bunch of ARMED CITIZENS that are responsible for that.
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JBinMontana
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Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 09:53 pm |
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NavyLT wrote: "Semiautomatic weapons have no place in the valleys of Yellowstone, on the cliffs of Yosemite or under the torch of the Statue of Liberty," he said.
Just how the heck do you suppose the statue of liberty got there in the first place? Seems to me that it was a bunch of ARMED CITIZENS that are responsible for that.
Nope, the Statue of Liberty was a gift from France to the United States.
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NavyLT
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Posted: Sun Apr 19th, 2009 01:08 am |
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JBinMontana wrote: NavyLT wrote: "Semiautomatic weapons have no place in the valleys of Yellowstone, on the cliffs of Yosemite or under the torch of the Statue of Liberty," he said.
Just how the heck do you suppose the statue of liberty got there in the first place? Seems to me that it was a bunch of ARMED CITIZENS that are responsible for that.
Nope, the Statue of Liberty was a gift from France to the United States. But if it wasn't for armed citizens revolting against a tryannical government, we wouldn't have the United States. Would France have given the Statue of Liberty to a colony of England, I wonder?
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KBCraig
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Posted: Sun Apr 19th, 2009 04:03 am |
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JBinMontana wrote: AP News Link
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Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, which filed a lawsuit to block the Bush rule, said he was pleased at the Obama administration's decision.
"Semiautomatic weapons have no place in the valleys of Yellowstone, on the cliffs of Yosemite or under the torch of the Statue of Liberty," he said.
Somebody forgot to tell these folks:
http://www.nps.gov/ozar/parkmgmt/images/ranger_w_car.jpg
http://www.tampabay.com/multimedia/archive/00023/python450_23760c.jpg
http://www.rangerfop.com/images/Samuel-GLCA-sm.jpeg
http://indianlake.com/harvestranger.jpg
(Okay, that one is a state park ranger, not NPS. BUT THERE ARE CHILDREN!"
http://www.bitetheday.com/images/Park_Ranger_Theresa___dogs.jpg
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Sonora Rebel
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Posted: Sun Apr 19th, 2009 06:56 am |
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"Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, which filed a lawsuit to block the Bush rule, said he was pleased at the Obama administration's decision.
"Semiautomatic weapons have no place in the valleys of Yellowstone, on the cliffs of Yosemite or under the torch of the Statue of Liberty," he said."
'Can't carry anything in NYC anyway... (where do they get these people?) 'n doubtful this metro dweeb has been anywhere near Yellowstone or Yosemite. I carry everyday thru a National Park... It's the only way in/out of here. I OC... 'loaded' in my truck. I'm not alone in this. I reckon there's a lotta folks who do the same all over... having to traverse sections of Parks to get anywhere. It's a county road... but the Rangers patrol it.
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MT GUNNY
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Posted: Sat May 30th, 2009 02:14 am |
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Down with The Brady Camp
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JBinMontana
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Posted: Thu Jun 4th, 2009 04:59 am |
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