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mattjohnston87
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Posted: Wed Jul 4th, 2007 11:28 pm |
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Montana State revising weapons policy
BOZEMAN, Mont. (AP) - Montana State University is changing itsfirearms policy in the wake of the Virginia Tech shootings this spring.
School officials say the changes clarify how weapons must be handled on campus and which weapons are banned. "We decided we needed to be more specific," said Glenn Puffer, associate dean of students.
The new proposed policy spells out a long list of weapons that are banned on campus - from rifles, shotguns and handguns to swords, nunchucks and other martial arts weapons. Real-looking toy guns and pepper spray are also banned under the proposal. The university is taking public comment on the proposed policy until Friday.
It states that even people who have permits to carry concealed weapons in public aren't allowed to bring their weapons on campus or into campus buildings. That's in line with state law, which suspends the privilege of concealed weapons in state buildings. The policy also clarifies how weapons can be stored. Students living in campus dormitories can't keep weapons in their rooms, but must store them in the dorm's storage lockers.
Students or employees living off campus who are transporting a firearm in their vehicle must keep the weapon unloaded, cased and out of sight. "The gun rack with the gun loaded in the back of the pickup is not going to fly," Puffer said.
MSU President Geoff Gamble asked Allen Yarnell, vice president for student affairs, to look into how the school would handle a campus shooting following the Virginia Tech massacre in April, which left 33 people dead.
A committee identified three areas of concern, including the firearms policy, Puffer said. The group is still looking into a campus-wide notification system in the event of an emergency, and an emergency response plan for keeping people secure inside buildings.
"We're really good at getting people out of buildings for fires and earthquakes," Puffer said. "We, and most institutions, have not looked at how to secure the whole campus against an external threat, a shooter."
Information from: Bozeman Daily Chronicle,
http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com
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mattjohnston87
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Posted: Wed Jul 4th, 2007 11:29 pm |
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This makes me quite angry......
"The gun rack with the gun loaded in the back of the pickup is not going to fly..."
That is ridiculous.... This is MONTANA! It's hard not to find a pickup that isn't like that....
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openryan
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Posted: Wed Jul 4th, 2007 11:58 pm |
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Unfortunate that everyone loses here.
What I find hard to believe is that they are banning pepper spray as well as other reasonable ltl forms of defense.
I hope they get enough public comment to turn this around.
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openryan
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Posted: Wed Jul 4th, 2007 11:59 pm |
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mattjohnston87 wrote: This makes me quite angry......
"The gun rack with the gun loaded in the back of the pickup is not going to fly..."
That is ridiculous.... This is MONTANA! It's hard not to find a pickup that isn't like that....
Are you angry because it makes you sound like a hilljack, or because you just want to be able to have the gun rack with loaded gun 
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HankT
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Posted: Wed Jul 4th, 2007 11:59 pm |
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mattjohnston87 wrote: This is MONTANA! It's hard not to find a pickup that isn't like that....
That's what I would have thought!
We're gonna see more of this stuff across the land. New policy amendments and clarifications on campuses everywhere as the fall semester approaches.
Can't stop it.
Only one logical response...
Last edited on Thu Jul 5th, 2007 12:00 am by HankT
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mattjohnston87
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Posted: Thu Jul 5th, 2007 12:00 am |
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VAopencarry
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Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 05:48 am |
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That's in line with state law, which suspends the privilege of concealed weapons in state buildings.
That's BS, I hope this thing was/is being fought.
MCA 45-8-328 " portions of a building used for state or local government offices and related areas in the building that have been restricted.
I don't see college classrooms as a 'government office'. I sure hope Montanans can take control of their state back from all the imported Nanny Staters.
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phoglund
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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 11:41 pm |
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In fact the revision talked about in this was essentially a non-event. The rules were already in place and had been so for some time. Indeed University rules notwithstanding, State Law prohibits weapons on school property.
See my reply to the "Are Schools Off Limits in Montana" thread.
P.S. I work on a Montana State University campus and went to school here as well over 20 years ago. I also have a Montana CWP. The rules have been this way for some time. The change was merely a more detailed listing of what was considered a weapon. Firearms were already listed.
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reltor
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Posted: Sat Jun 28th, 2008 03:05 am |
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I wrote to the University about this.
What irritates me is that the for some matters the University follows democratic principles and others they just mandate from the top down.
The Alumni Association has no problems calling and begging for money, (after I paid around 80 grand over the years) and they would have had a more giving spirit in me if they would have asked me for my vote on this policy before enacting it. I have three kids to send somewhere and in the wake VA tech I would feel more comfortable with my kids in Utah with a CCW or around others with one.
Another shameful practice I have seen is the sports program recruiting academically inept athletes, and not sending them back home when they flunk out. A greyhound ticket home (i.e. U.S. armed forces) when someone flunks out could possibly have prevented murder and other crimes.
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