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gunscribe
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Posted: Wed Jun 28th, 2006 06:48 am |
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Deena Winter: Pistol-packer tries to make a point to City Council
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jpierce
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Posted: Wed Jun 28th, 2006 02:25 pm |
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gunscribe wrote: Deena Winter: Pistol-packer tries to make a point to City Council
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Now THATS what I'm talking about 
Way to go!
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ilbob
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Posted: Wed Jun 28th, 2006 02:52 pm |
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I made a comment. I got a message indicating it would be added after moderation.
<added> Didn't take long to get moderated. They posted it as a wrote it.
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longwatch
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Added a coment as well. I would like to know why they have moderation if they allow gun owners to be called nasty evil rednecks and idiots.
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I fail to see how law abiding gun owners who choose to carry a weapon to protect themselves are "idiots" and "nasty, evil rednecks". I carry a pistol daily, know many others who do as well, and those pejorative terms are uncalled for as I see it. Hemet I would like to know what charges exactly would you have made a citizens arrest for and how would you try to make such an arrest on a terrorist? Frankly, I have more confidence in Mr Tyrells ability to deal with a terrorist situation than you.
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ilbob
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Posted: Wed Jun 28th, 2006 04:58 pm |
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longwatch wrote: Added a coment as well. I would like to know why they have moderation if they allow gun owners to be called nasty evil rednecks and idiots.
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I fail to see how law abiding gun owners who choose to carry a weapon to protect themselves are "idiots" and "nasty, evil rednecks". I carry a pistol daily, know many others who do as well, and those pejorative terms are uncalled for as I see it. Hemet I would like to know what charges exactly would you have made a citizens arrest for and how would you try to make such an arrest on a terrorist? Frankly, I have more confidence in Mr Tyrells ability to deal with a terrorist situation than you.
I retaliated by obliquely referring to her as a soccer mom. I made a similar comment as you just made to Hemet. it should be posted soon I would guess.
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ProguninTN
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Posted: Wed Jun 28th, 2006 06:35 pm |
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I hope this proposal fails. I am tired of seeing large cities trying to skirt state law, especially when it comes to gun laws. In addition to Lincoln, NE, Denver, CO, and Philadelphia, PA come to mind. . Additionally, I wish I could go to a government meeting armed. It may serve as a reminder to the officials that tyranny is to be met with resistance, and that we are constituents, not subjects.
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ilbob
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Posted: Wed Jun 28th, 2006 07:16 pm |
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ilbob wrote: longwatch wrote: Added a coment as well. I would like to know why they have moderation if they allow gun owners to be called nasty evil rednecks and idiots.
This is what I wrote:
I fail to see how law abiding gun owners who choose to carry a weapon to protect themselves are "idiots" and "nasty, evil rednecks". I carry a pistol daily, know many others who do as well, and those pejorative terms are uncalled for as I see it. Hemet I would like to know what charges exactly would you have made a citizens arrest for and how would you try to make such an arrest on a terrorist? Frankly, I have more confidence in Mr Tyrells ability to deal with a terrorist situation than you.
I retaliated by obliquely referring to her as a soccer mom. I made a similar comment as you just made to Hemet. it should be posted soon I would guess.
well so far it has not appeared. maybe only one comment is allowed per person.Last edited on Wed Jun 28th, 2006 07:16 pm by ilbob
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Dutch Uncle
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Posted: Wed Jun 28th, 2006 11:39 pm |
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ProguninTN, you asked about going to a gov't meeting armed. Are you sure you can't? I know in VA, people pretty routinely go to the General Assembly in Richmond with pistols. The only proviso is that it must be carried openly, by someone with a CCW (go figure!) A local gentleman OC'd to a school board meeting here in York County not long ago, and while some on the school board were annoyed, the county deputies understood it was perfectly legal, and did't hassle him.
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Tricorn
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Posted: Thu Jun 29th, 2006 01:48 am |
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Dutch Uncle wrote: ProguninTN, you asked about going to a gov't meeting armed. Are you sure you can't? I know in VA, people pretty routinely go to the General Assembly in Richmond with pistols. The only proviso is that it must be carried openly, by someone with a CCW (go figure!) A local gentleman OC'd to a school board meeting here in York County not long ago, and while some on the school board were annoyed, the county deputies understood it was perfectly legal, and did't hassle him.
Is that true one can only open carry (with a CHP) at the General Assembly? It was my understanding one could carry openly or concealed at the General Assembly, but one had to have a CHP to do either.
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longwatch
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Posted: Thu Jun 29th, 2006 03:56 am |
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The Virgina General Assembly only allows permit holders to carry, they can carry openly or concealed at their own discretion.
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ProguninTN
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Posted: Thu Jun 29th, 2006 08:04 am |
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Tricorn wrote: Dutch Uncle wrote: ProguninTN, you asked about going to a gov't meeting armed. Are you sure you can't? I know in VA, people pretty routinely go to the General Assembly in Richmond with pistols. The only proviso is that it must be carried openly, by someone with a CCW (go figure!) A local gentleman OC'd to a school board meeting here in York County not long ago, and while some on the school board were annoyed, the county deputies understood it was perfectly legal, and did't hassle him.
Is that true one can only open carry (with a CHP) at the General Assembly? It was my understanding one could carry openly or concealed at the General Assembly, but one had to have a CHP to do either.
I'm not aware of any quirks in the law, but here in Tennessee, most of the government buildings are legally posted no guns. I have been in 2 in the past week and both were posted.
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Posted: Thu Jun 29th, 2006 03:07 pm |
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longwatch wrote: Added a comment as well. I would like to know why they have moderation if they allow gun owners to be called nasty evil rednecks and idiots.
This is what I wrote:
I fail to see how law abiding gun owners who choose to carry a weapon to protect themselves are "idiots" and "nasty, evil rednecks". I carry a pistol daily, know many others who do as well, and those pejorative terms are uncalled for as I see it. Hemet I would like to know what charges exactly would you have made a citizens arrest for and how would you try to make such an arrest on a terrorist? Frankly, I have more confidence in Mr Tyrells ability to deal with a terrorist situation than you.
They seem to have removed the initial comment that made the nasty, evil redneck slur.
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It's kind of amazing (ok, not really). All the talk of "idiots" yet one guy says if he had been there, he would have made a citizens arrest.
I tried to post a comment but it wouldn't let me. My question was going to be, "If he didn't do anything illegal, exactly what would you have "citizen arrested" him for?"
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Posted: Thu Jun 29th, 2006 05:43 pm |
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robbiev427 wrote: It's kind of amazing (ok, not really). All the talk of "idiots" yet one guy says if he had been there, he would have made a citizens arrest.
I tried to post a comment but it wouldn't let me. My question was going to be, "If he didn't do anything illegal, exactly what would you have "citizen arrested" him for?"
I tried to ask that question, but it never appeared. maybe they only allow one comment per person.
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longwatch
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Posted: Thu Jun 29th, 2006 06:38 pm |
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I did ask that question and the cut that part out.
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Posted: Tue Jul 11th, 2006 02:50 pm |
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| Just as a point of interest you guys knew that I was the subject of that article didn't you?
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Posted: Sat Sep 23rd, 2006 03:46 pm |
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A "citizen's arrest" can be a very tricky thing. The arresting person definitely needs to be right in their actions. I can assure you that if I were confronted by an angry, loud individual objecting to my weapon and attempting a citizen's arrest (especially if any attempt to disarm me) that I would be less than cooperative. Polite if possible, Yes. Backing up and directing the other individual to cease and desist, Yes. But give up my weapon and place myself in control of such and indiviual, No! First action -cell phone to LE. Second action - non-leathal use of force as minimally as required. Understand that I consider any attempt to disarm me by non-LE as a very serious, potentially life threatening action. Do you notice that anti-gun people often appear much more aggressive and potentially violent than pro-gunnies?
This is the burden that we bear in these times of transition. We must thoroughly think out all possible situations and plan out all reactions that we might be forced to utilize. How many of us train to respond to attempted snatches, multiple aggressors, carry back-up? What if all of this hapens in a crowd?
I realize that this is a little off of the thread but these thoughts do come into play.
Yes the Virginia General Assembly does allow OC or CC by permit holders only. This condition came about through a "rule" imposed by committee not a public vote and not a change in the law which otherwise allows any legal citizen to carry openly in Virginia including State buildings.
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