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Posted: Sun Jul 9th, 2006 09:38 pm |
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I first thought of sending a PM to Gunscribe; however, I believe that this topic might be of interest to others, so I am posting my question here.
My wife and I are going to be riding our motorcycles from Sturgis SD back home - West Palm Beach, FL. We'll be travelling HWY 2 from Alliance to a few miles short of Lincoln where we'll be turning South.
Having carried concealed in Florida for many, many years, it is uncomfortable to be deprived of our self defense possibilities.
I read the statutes; what I would like to know is what is really happenning ?
What would be your advice - considering that we are old enough (>60) to look respectable :-) .
OTOH any criminal charges, even dismissed, would probably cost me my job (corporate pilot).
I apologize for such a long post, but it seems that a lot of regulations consider that all vehicles are cars (or trucks), like being told "leave it in your car"; it doesn't work with a Harley !!!
Thanks in advance ...
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apjonas
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Posted: Sun Jul 9th, 2006 09:56 pm |
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Now here is a case where 18 USC 926A can help. Lock them up for the duration whenever you are in a state where you cannot carry. Don't most motorcylcles have locking compartments? A quick look a the map indicates that the short strech in Nebraska is the only problem area.
sabreliner wrote:
I first thought of sending a PM to Gunscribe; however, I believe that this topic might be of interest to others, so I am posting my question here.
My wife and I are going to be riding our motorcycles from Sturgis SD back home - West Palm Beach, FL. We'll be travelling HWY 2 from Alliance to a few miles short of Lincoln where we'll be turning South.
Having carried concealed in Florida for many, many years, it is uncomfortable to be deprived of our self defense possibilities.
I read the statutes; what I would like to know is what is really happenning ?
What would be your advice - considering that we are old enough (>60) to look respectable :-) .
OTOH any criminal charges, even dismissed, would probably cost me my job (corporate pilot).
I apologize for such a long post, but it seems that a lot of regulations consider that all vehicles are cars (or trucks), like being told "leave it in your car"; it doesn't work with a Harley !!!
Thanks in advance ...
Sabreliner
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Mike
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Posted: Sun Jul 9th, 2006 10:01 pm |
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| Just open carry on the ride & off the bike
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ilbob
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Posted: Sun Jul 9th, 2006 10:27 pm |
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I can't imagine anyone in NE caring one whit that you had an unloaded gun in a locked compartment of your motorcycle.
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sabreliner
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Posted: Mon Jul 10th, 2006 01:35 pm |
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Thanks guys for your input !
Leather saddlebags cannot be "locked"; even if padlocked, any knife, scissors will easily cut the strap.
Of course, I could remove the seat and hide them there, but it is a 10 minute process; when you need a gun, most of the time, NOW is almost late :-)
We'll be spending 3-4 days in Nebraska, visiting, so I would like to know how OC is perceived there mostly in the rural areas.
Then Kansas will be a problem too, then we are legal again to CC.
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Posted: Mon Jul 10th, 2006 05:05 pm |
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Any lock can be defeated. You asked how to stay "legal." Now if you are concerned about the security of the firearm, stay with the bike (or take turns) whenever you must stop. OC may be unlawful under a local ordinance and is always an invitation for LEO attention. However, you say that you are visiting (that's new information), so presumably you would be in a home. No problem there. Just don't go out to eat (or don't carry) if you want to be certain. Why not just avoid Kansas?
sabreliner wrote:
Thanks guys for your input !
Leather saddlebags cannot be "locked"; even if padlocked, any knife, scissors will easily cut the strap.
Of course, I could remove the seat and hide them there, but it is a 10 minute process; when you need a gun, most of the time, NOW is almost late :-)
We'll be spending 3-4 days in Nebraska, visiting, so I would like to know how OC is perceived there mostly in the rural areas.
Then Kansas will be a problem too, then we are legal again to CC.
Sabreliner
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Mike
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Posted: Mon Jul 10th, 2006 05:54 pm |
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sabreliner wrote:
Then Kansas will be a problem too, then we are legal again to CC.
You can open carry in most of Kansas. John Pierce reports that the KSP told him they do not care about open carry and won't enforce any local bans (we are not sure where they exist anyway).
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sabreliner
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Posted: Mon Jul 10th, 2006 06:10 pm |
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apjonas you have some valid points, thanks.
I will print and carry the 18 USC 926A18 USC 926A.
Any lock can be defeated; true, but some take more expertise and time than others. That's why people buy safes.
OC may be unlawful under a local ordinance; I thought I read somewhere Nebraska had complete state preemption.
Why not just avoid Kansas? Because I want to go there  ; actually there are some people I want to visit.
By the same token, I could wait next year for that trip; Nebraska might have some kind of reciprocity; but, as you grow older, the future shrinks.
I didn't elaborate on the trip in my first post: we plan on taking a couple of weeks, maybe a little more, to go from Sturgis to Memphis; chances are we will not have that opportunity again and we want to visit a part of the country we have never been to , and see people we have not seen for a long time.
After Memphis it will be home in 2 days.
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ilbob
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Posted: Mon Jul 10th, 2006 07:15 pm |
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sabreliner wrote:
OC may be unlawful under a local ordinance; I thought I read somewhere Nebraska had complete state preemption.
Why not just avoid Kansas? Because I want to go there ; actually there are some people I want to visit.
By the same token, I could wait next year for that trip; Nebraska might have some kind of reciprocity; but, as you grow older, the future shrinks.
Well, the state legislature apparently thought the CC legislation did pre-empt the local units of government. The local units of government are not buying it. But then again, the authors of the state RKBA constitutional amendment apparently thought it would introduce VT style carry in NE.
NE has no reciprocity provision in its CC law. Kansas does but I would not expect to see any agreements signed anytime real soon.
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Posted: Mon Jul 10th, 2006 08:09 pm |
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If you are going to I-29 on Hwy 2 you will have a few miles of Iowa to contend with as well.
While technically legal open carry is unusal in Nebraska for the most part, in other words people are not used to seeing it.
You might have some 'splaining to do if some concerned citizen makes a "man with a gun cell phone call".
All that being said, all I can say is you will be legal in Nebraska openly carrying a sidearm, provided you are willing to be a great ambassador for open carry should you be asked to explain.
If you re going to be in or near Lincoln send me a PM we can have a cup of coffee at a gun friendly diner I know.
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Ed Y
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Posted: Sun Jul 16th, 2006 03:32 pm |
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I've traveled thru Nebraska for years on a motorcycle carrying a pistol in a saddlebag (unloaded). I also have many, many in-laws in Nebraska City so I also visit there frequently, both on the bike and in a 4 wheeler.
My approach has always been to remove the weapon at night and keep it with me, whether at a motel or camping (I do both). I've really never worried about it with this approach.
I would prefer to carry it on my person, either concealed (I have a FL license) or OC. Maybe next year.
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