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varminter22
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 05:31 pm |
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Again, CCW related, but somewhat germane here.
In order to obtain a Nevada CCW permit, one must first obtain training, usually at a cost of $80 to $125. Then one must pay $40.25 for fingerprinting and a $60 application fee to the sheriff. Add ammunition costs (for qualification shooting) and the total cost for obtaining a CCW permit can easily approach or exceed $200.
NV should retain its current fee structure
200 is cheap; NV should raise its current fees
NV should decrease its current fees
Please vote here: http://www.stillwaterfirearms.org/phpnuke/modules.php?name=Surveys&pollID=17
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Felid`Maximus
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 07:05 pm |
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Lower fees of course!
But ideally we'd have alaska-style ccw so none of this would matter.
Last edited on Sun Jun 1st, 2008 07:06 pm by Felid`Maximus
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icode
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Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 06:46 pm |
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Lower the fees of course. BTW If I've already been finger printed by the SO for some other permit do I have to pay to do it again???
TIA
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wayneco
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Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 07:58 pm |
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When my wife and I went in for our Washoe CCW I paid $20 ($5 each) extra each and walked away with four sets each of fingerprint cards to use for other applications.
Two immediately went out (to UT and FL) and I'm intending to apply in OR as well. I'll still have one fingerprint card left over for a rainy day.
I highly recommend that when you go in for your CCW fingerprinting you get extra FBI blue cards printed out from your fingerprinting it will definitely save you $$$ from going in and having someone print you for each other time you need them.
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Loneviking
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Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 10:02 pm |
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Hey Wayne, did you get your CCW yet?
As for the costs, my recommendation is to shop around. I found 'Safe and Sane' offering classes for $30 for the girls, $60 for the guys, an extra $20 for the UT./Fl. paperwork. That fee includes book, range and lunch!
As for the SO fees, the fingerprint costs (I'm told) go for maintenance of a database. The $60 fee is pretty standard for background checks for any license. So, although I might want things to be cheaper, it's pretty hard to see where the costs could be lowered.
My class is June 14th, and then I'm told I can expect a four month wait thanks to living under the jurisdiction of Carson City!
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wayneco
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Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 01:59 am |
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Applied for our CCW permits on Monday April 20th in Washoe County.
Mentioned that we're applying for UT and FL and the lady said we'd almost surely get those permits before our NV permit due to long delays in processing. She said that the bulk of what their office does (photos/fingerprinting) is now related to CCW applications.
I guess that's good news -- I certainly feel better knowing there are many, many legally armed folk in our county and it should hopefully give pause to those who would consider causing harm to the meek or law abiding.
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njeske
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Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 02:56 am |
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| The news a couple nights ago (when that bar shooting was stopped by a CCW'r) quoted the sheriff's office as saying there are currently around 9000 active permits in Washoe County.
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wayneco
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Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 03:08 am |
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| soon: 9002 !
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dan-wild
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 05:13 am |
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icode wrote: Lower the fees of course. BTW If I've already been finger printed by the SO for some other permit do I have to pay to do it again???
TIA
So far I have been finger printed in Clark County more than six (6) times at $45.00 each time.
On a single day I was printed for a work card (Armed Security) - cost $45.00, AND printed for a CCW application - another $45.00.
Each time I change jobs, or seek a business license - another $45.00 each.
I have had the same fingers since moving to the area - but Metro has collected several hundred dollars from me just for the required finger printing here.
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wayneco
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 07:50 am |
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when we applied for our CCW permits (Washoe County) we paid the fingerprint fee for the first one (about $45 I guess) and then I got four or five more FBI blue cards printed out for each of us for $5 each at that time. We used then for CCW apps in other states and saved a ton of money by doing it this way.
Next time you go in to get fingerprinted, get a bunch of extras at that time, it'll save you $$$
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Loneviking
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Posted: Sun Jul 13th, 2008 12:11 pm |
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If anybody needs fingerprint cards, go to the SO in Carson City. I was surprised to find that the cost is $8 a card! No other fee, just pay the eight bucks, get the prints and off you go.
I was also surprised that this last week, when applying for a CCW, the folks there volunteered the info that the wait time is in the two to eight week area. They run your DL against the NCIC computer, and the lady at the desk claims that if there are no hits you should get your CCW back very quickly. Sheriff Furlong fired the last head of this department back in early June and I guess the new department head is working on speeding things up.
Wayneco, did you ever get your permit?
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wayneco
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 08:37 am |
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Loneviking wrote:
Wayneco, did you ever get your permit?
Yes, just last week in fact.
Now here is what confuses me:
We applied on Monday, April 21st.
The card says permit was issued on May 16. This is 28 week (work) days after filing.
The cover letter is dated July 2, which is 33 week (work) days after issuance -- or 7 calendar weeks. The envelope is postmarked July 3. We received them last week.
So why did it take just under a month to "issue" but an additional nearly two months to mail them out? I feel like we got cheated out of two months of permit by whatever bureaucratic process caused the delay.
Anyone have any thoughts about that?
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Loneviking
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 04:02 pm |
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| No thoughts, but I'd sure call them and ask! I'd also send an e-mail about this to the Washoe County sheriff. That is one very long and unexcusable delay. There needs to be a very large turnout in August at the state CCW meeting. Issues such as this, along with the real need for a standarized application form and some sort of appeals process for any application rejections need to be addressed. These sheriffs do listen. Kenny Furlong apparently fired the head of his CCW division because of the many complaints about how the CCW process was handled.
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AnakinsKid
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 06:04 pm |
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wayneco wrote: Loneviking wrote:
Wayneco, did you ever get your permit?
Yes, just last week in fact.
Now here is what confuses me:
We applied on Monday, April 21st.
The card says permit was issued on May 16. This is 28 week (work) days after filing.
The cover letter is dated July 2, which is 33 week (work) days after issuance -- or 7 calendar weeks. The envelope is postmarked July 3. We received them last week.
So why did it take just under a month to "issue" but an additional nearly two months to mail them out? I feel like we got cheated out of two months of permit by whatever bureaucratic process caused the delay.
Anyone have any thoughts about that?
Mine says it was issued on April 14th. That was the day I turned in the paperwork. So according to the permit, they didn't actually need any time at all to process the application. Yet it took them 47 days (calender, not work days) to mail it to me.
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Loneviking
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 08:04 pm |
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AnakinsKid wrote: wayneco wrote: Loneviking wrote:
Wayneco, did you ever get your permit?
Yes, just last week in fact.
Now here is what confuses me:
We applied on Monday, April 21st.
The card says permit was issued on May 16. This is 28 week (work) days after filing.
The cover letter is dated July 2, which is 33 week (work) days after issuance -- or 7 calendar weeks. The envelope is postmarked July 3. We received them last week.
So why did it take just under a month to "issue" but an additional nearly two months to mail them out? I feel like we got cheated out of two months of permit by whatever bureaucratic process caused the delay.
Anyone have any thoughts about that?
Mine says it was issued on April 14th. That was the day I turned in the paperwork. So according to the permit, they didn't actually need any time at all to process the application. Yet it took them 47 days (calender, not work days) to mail it to me.
Yours may say it was issued then because that is when they made up the CCW permit. When I went for mine, they made the card up complete with picture. I know exactly what my permit will look like and what info is on it. All that they have to do is get an 'OK' back from the FBI and then they mail the permit to me.
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wayneco
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 06:49 am |
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| When and where is this CCW meeting? When you say turnout, do you mean by citizens? Send the details...
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Loneviking
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 11:55 am |
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wayneco wrote: When and where is this CCW meeting? When you say turnout, do you mean by citizens? Send the details...
Posted by Varminter22:
CCW Holders Forum on August 5, 1:30 p.m, hosted by the NV Sheriffs & Chiefs Ass'n. Primary location is Las Vegas with televideo link to a legislative room in Carson City.
Wayne, I've seen this info posted elsewhere as well, so this is legit and something we all need to attend.
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Jared
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 12:50 pm |
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Loneviking wrote: As for the SO fees, the fingerprint costs (I'm told) go for maintenance of a database. The $60 fee is pretty standard for background checks for any license. So, although I might want things to be cheaper, it's pretty hard to see where the costs could be lowered.
You don't see where the costs could be lowered????
New Hampshire issues permits for $10.
Rhode Island issues permits for $40.
Pennsylvania issues permits for $20
Alabama issues permits for $10 (varies by county).
I do see where costs could be lowered. Fingerprinting for a CCW is a waist of time. They should be like Maine, only fingerprint if there is reason to be concerned about the identity of the applicant.
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Loneviking
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 04:09 pm |
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Jared wrote: Loneviking wrote: As for the SO fees, the fingerprint costs (I'm told) go for maintenance of a database. The $60 fee is pretty standard for background checks for any license. So, although I might want things to be cheaper, it's pretty hard to see where the costs could be lowered.
You don't see where the costs could be lowered????
New Hampshire issues permits for $10.
Rhode Island issues permits for $40.
Pennsylvania issues permits for $20
Alabama issues permits for $10 (varies by county).
I do see where costs could be lowered. Fingerprinting for a CCW is a waist of time. They should be like Maine, only fingerprint if there is reason to be concerned about the identity of the applicant.
Not a very good comparison for two reasons:
One, there is no breakdown as to what the fees charged by other states go towards. Likely, the ones you are quoting don't require fingerprints. Here in Nevada, at least in Carson City, they are using the latest equipment which is completely digital with no ink. That equipment has to be paid for and is used for fingerprinting everybody. Tell me what the quoted rates cover and we'll compare.
Second, regional differences in cost. In parts of Pennsylvania and Alabama, I can buy a really nice home for $100,000. That wouldn't buy you much more than a trailer here in Nevada. So are you telling me that the costs for homes should be the same across the country? That's naive and economically wrong. Fees and costs are going to vary from one part of the country to another. If you want to do a comparison, compare Arizona/Idaho/Utah ($65 dollar fee) with the Nevada fees. Utah is a little bit cheaper but so is the cost of living in many parts of Utah. Carson City the fee went down this year to $100.25, so it's not that much higher than Utah.
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calmp9
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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 03:07 am |
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wayneco wrote:
Loneviking wrote:
Wayneco, did you ever get your permit?
Yes, just last week in fact.
Now here is what confuses me:
We applied on Monday, April 21st.
The card says permit was issued on May 16. This is 28 week (work) days after filing.
The cover letter is dated July 2, which is 33 week (work) days after issuance -- or 7 calendar weeks. The envelope is postmarked July 3. We received them last week.
So why did it take just under a month to "issue" but an additional nearly two months to mail them out? I feel like we got cheated out of two months of permit by whatever bureaucratic process caused the delay.
Anyone have any thoughts about that?
I applied for my Nevada nonresident in Washoe County on March 13. The lady told me that it would be 60 days so so. I received it in the mail on May 24. My permit shows being issued on April 4. It sure looks like they held the permits for awhile before mailing them out. I will give them the benefit of the doubt and believe that the background check had not be received yet. My brother put his resident CCW application in Douglas County where resides on the same day as I did. To date, he has not yet received his permit. They have gone past the 120 day time frame to notify him.
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