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Felid`Maximus
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 09:58 pm |
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I've created a pamphlet for Nevada laws concerning open carry. It prints out onto one page. It mentions all of the NRS numbers for laws, with links to them from browsers.
In the .doc version, in order to access links, hold down control while clicking them. In the PDF, just click them.
Edit1 (June 20):
I did a very minor edit to the document by removing an extra quotation mark that was pointed out to me from the right side of the second blue quote box, for aesthetic reasons.
In case anyone was curious, there were 11 downloads previous to this very minor aesthetic change.
Edit2 (June 21): Despite reading this aloud a few times, I left out the word "as" in a sentence. Now it is there.
"There are a few exceptions to the law which, such as being"
Also, I added a period to the end of the sentence in paranthesis at the top mentioning Clark County's registration exception to preemption, and put a closing paranthesis where it was missing in the second paragraph. - 9 AM June 21.
There were 11 downloads previous to this edit too, perhaps by the same people!
July 30: A new version was posted several posts down but didn't replace this one. I was originally unsure of the utility of the information listed. In the Sept. 6 version this information will be included and two versions will no longer exist.
Aug4 Edit: There were 243 downloads prior to correction of faulty information by AnakinsKid.
Sept 6, 2008. (80 downloads prior to new version) - Okay, I think its better to just put all the information into one, whether it concerns concealed or open carry. So all of the information that was in the new alternative one that I had posted several posts down is now in this one. In addition, I realized I never mentioned the restriction in the Legislative building. I also changed the wording referring to the NAC on roadside parks with my improved understanding of it. The federal law section in the july 30 one was more detailed than the one I left for download in this post earlier, so now I included that in here. For NAC 202.020, I have also reworded it to better reflect my understanding of it.
(The September 6 version was downloaded 174 times)
Dec 10, 2008. I ammended it to take into account the new ruling on national parks and wildlife refuges.
Dec 11, 2008. I forgot to mention when the rule takes effect. The pre-publication version of the rule I read said it took effect on the date of publication with the federal registrar. It was publicated with the Federal registrar on Dec. 10, but the publicated version says it takes effect January 9, 2009. (The December 11 version was downloaded 88 times.)
Jan 16, 2009. The law that preempts towns from making regulations is now listed along with the laws that restrict counties and cities. Additionally, the comment on preemption has been reworded, and the laws which regulate these localities are labeled. Also, I removed the mention that the new national park rule took effect on January 9 since it is past the date and it would look cleaner without mention of it. Also, now that the current Attorney General's website has a mention to open carry (the old pamphlet said that the current website made no mention of it), I removed the old reference to the archived attorney general website (found using http://www.archive.org/index.php for http://ag.state.nv.us/ and clicking on the July 24 2002 archive,) and replaced it with the current one. I kind of liked how the old FAQ asked "Can I carry without a permit?" which drove the point of no permit being necessary, but the new one is easier for people to find than the archived version and is more current.
January 16, 2009 (10pm): See the thread about the AG saying local laws still apply: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum36/20658.html. Until this gets sorted out the pamphlet has been temporarily revised to not mention state preemption. Hopefully soon the Jan 16 version I created earlier today can replace it.
(Jan 16 version was downloaded 41 times.)
February 10, 2009: Unfortunately the AG problem still hasn't been resolved, but I have updated the pamphlet again. I reworded the part discussing the preemption law because the one I had hastily assembled in the last version had some long sentences, unclear language, and forgot to mention the registration in Clark County. I also amended the section on roadside parks to mention rest areas, which the regulation also applies to. Also, I added to the section on schools to note that the penalty for loitering near a school while armed is a higher penalty than loitering without being armed.
(Feb 10 version downloaded 42 times)
March 4, 2009: The links in the Feb 10 version of the PDF got broken somehow. I just now noticed it. So, sorry to the people who got the version with broken links. I've now reposted the Feb 10 PDF and now when you click on the blue text it should go to the law on the legislature website again.
March 19, 2009: A federal district court has blocked the national park ruling. So I have amended the pamphlet to take this into account.
(The March 19 .doc version was downloaded 96 time)
July 3, 2009: The pamphlet has been updated to fix links as well as to take into account the new legislation which will allow concealed carry in National Parks on February 22, 2010. The wording of the first paragraph has also been altered. This revision also takes into account the changes in the list of states that Nevada recognizes concealed carry permits from. (Nevada no longer recognizes Utah or Florida but now recognizes West Virginia and Ohio.) Edit2: Fixed a sentence missing a word in 1st paragraph.
(The July 3 doc version was downloaded 38 times.
August 9, 2009: The pamphlet has been updated to reflect the disappearance of the comments regarding firearms on the AG website, as well as to clarify the federal law section.
Download August 9, 2009 Version as a doc file :
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/attachment.php?id=7494
Download August 9, 2009 Version as a PDF file :
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/attachment.php?id=7496
Attachment: NVCarryPamphletAug9_2009.doc (Downloaded 86 times) Last edited on Sun Aug 9th, 2009 05:12 pm by Felid`Maximus
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Bravo_Sierra
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 08:35 am |
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Felid`Maximus wrote: I've created a pamphlet that prints out on one page for Nevada laws concerning open carry. It prints out onto one page. It mentions all of the NRS numbers for laws, with links to them from browsers.
Edit:
I did a very minor edit to the document by removing an extra quotation mark that was pointed out to me from the right side of the second blue quote box, for aesthetic reasons.
In case anyone was curious, there were 11 downloads previous to this very minor aesthetic change.
Thanks!
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Sheepdawg
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 07:09 pm |
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calmp9
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 04:28 am |
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Felid`Maximus wrote:
I've created a pamphlet for Nevada laws concerning open carry. It prints out onto one page. It mentions all of the NRS numbers for laws, with links to them from browsers.
Edit:
I did a very minor edit to the document by removing an extra quotation mark that was pointed out to me from the right side of the second blue quote box, for aesthetic reasons.
In case anyone was curious, there were 11 downloads previous to this very minor aesthetic change.
Edit2: Despite reading this aloud a few times, I left out the word "as" in a sentence. Now it is there.
"There are a few exceptions to the law which, such as being"
Also, I added a period to the end of the sentence in paranthesis at the top mentioning Clark County's registration exception to preemption, and put a closing paranthesis where it was missing in the second paragraph. - 9 AM June 21.
There were 11 downloads previous to this edit too, perhaps by the same people!
Thanks for doing that! I am going to check it out.
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icode
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 10:17 pm |
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Erus
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Posted: Thu Jun 26th, 2008 11:50 pm |
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- Can I carry a firearm in Nevada without a permit?
Nevada has an open carry law that permits a person to carry a handgun in plain view.
It is my understanding that the LACK of any directly OPEN carry law is what we have in Nevada that makes it legal.
Can you cite the NRS that states anything about OC being legal, rather than the lack of one that says it is not?
Other than this.. great pamphlet.
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bobernet
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 12:02 am |
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Erus,
That is a direct quote from the former Nevada Attorney General. I agree that it is poorly worded, but it's what the AG posted on her website.
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Bravo_Sierra
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 12:02 am |
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Erus wrote:
- Can I carry a firearm in Nevada without a permit?
Nevada has an open carry law that permits a person to carry a handgun in plain view.
It is my understanding that the LACK of any directly OPEN carry law is what we have in Nevada that makes it legal.
Can you cite the NRS that states anything about OC being legal, rather than the lack of one that says it is not?
Other than this.. great pamphlet.
There isn't anything about OC in the NRS.
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Erus
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 12:15 am |
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Yeah B_S that's what I though/always was told/read for myself.
Thanks bobernet for the clarification. Goofy wording leaves room for argument I would rather not have, but it's still a good listing of NRS's for the uneducated to START with.
Kind of thing to hand to idiot clerks and sheep and righteous "authorotay figgers"
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 05:01 am |
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In Clark County, it appears that handguns must be registered in order to keep and bear.
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bobernet
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 06:07 am |
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Yes. If you're a resident of the county for more than 60 days, any concealable firearm must be registered.
Registration is free and only takes a few minutes at any metro station.
It is unconstitutional, in my opinion, and it sucks - but it's not particularly inconvenient. You can avoid registering (not legally) any guns you buy from private parties, but if you buy from a retail gun dealer, they will submit the registration info directly to metro and issue your "blue card" at the time of sale.
The penalty for conviction on registration laws is a misdemeanor. $100+ and/or 6 months max.
Last edited on Fri Jun 27th, 2008 06:08 am by bobernet
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timf343
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 05:08 pm |
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The USSC did not evaluate the constitutionality of registration in this most recent 2A case, an in fact, Heller conceded that registration was a reasonable limitation upon the right, so it was left unchallenged in this case.
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bobernet
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 07:13 pm |
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In pondering this more, I think it would be tough to challenge registration on constitutional grounds. After all, we already have voter registration, and as long as it is not used selectively, capriciously, and there aren't any test or fees associated (that would make it like a poll tax), then I think registration would probably pass constitutional muster.
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Felid`Maximus
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 07:35 pm |
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Thanks all for the kind words.
PDF Version is downloadable on this post. (August 9, 2009 Version)
(September 6 version of the PDF was downloaded 48 times.)
(December 11 version of the PDF was downloaded 22 times)
(January 16 version of the PDF was downloaded 58 times.)
(Broken Links Feb 10, 2009 version downloaded 33 times)
(Fixed Links Feb 10, 2009 version downloaded 29 times.)
(March 19 version of the PDF was downloaded 167 times.)
(July 3, 2009 version of PDF was downloaded 50 times.)
Attachment: NVCarryPamphletAug9_2009.pdf (Downloaded 281 times) Last edited on Sun Aug 9th, 2009 05:11 pm by Felid`Maximus
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Felid`Maximus
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 05:19 am |
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Here is a more detailed version that's also modified a bit. Not sure if its better.
(The July30 version was downloaded 50 times before it was removed.)
Last edited on Thu Dec 11th, 2008 02:20 am by Felid`Maximus
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Felid`Maximus
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 05:20 am |
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If anyone wants to know what's different, aside from reordering a bit, there is red text in this one. Actually, there is more than what is listed in this file too. NAC 202.020 is now mentioned, as well as a penalty for "exhibiting" a firearm in a roadside park.
The funny thing about 202.020 is that it is not clear whether the locations listed are just supposed to be on a form that someone sees or if they are also regulations.
The update notes below showed the changes made before the July 30 version.
Edited to add: These notes are quite old and just show changes between the July 30 version and its successor. If anyone wants to see any older version of the pamphlet or see similar update notes they can be made available upon request.
Edited to add: Notes removed. (90 Downloads existed.) Not sure they are worth seeing given how old they were.Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 11:58 pm by Felid`Maximus
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Felid`Maximus
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 05:22 am |
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| Hmm this post is bugged. Last edited on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 02:53 am by Felid`Maximus
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AnakinsKid
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 06:03 am |
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In the newest update you say,
Places One Cannot Carry a Firearm: Per NRS 202.265 one may not have a firearm anywhere on the property of a University, School, or Child Care facility. (Even with a concealed carry permit the buildings are still off limits though the rest of the property no longer is.)
What NRS makes the property not off limits for CCW holders? My church shares a parking lot with a Daycare/Preschool that we started, and I'm unsure if I can carry there. If there actually is an exemption for CCW holders, I'm ok.
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Felid`Maximus
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 07:55 am |
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AnakinsKid wrote: In the newest update you say,
Places One Cannot Carry a Firearm: Per NRS 202.265 one may not have a firearm anywhere on the property of a University, School, or Child Care facility. (Even with a concealed carry permit the buildings are still off limits though the rest of the property no longer is.)
What NRS makes the property not off limits for CCW holders? My church shares a parking lot with a Daycare/Preschool that we started, and I'm unsure if I can carry there. If there actually is an exemption for CCW holders, I'm ok.
You're right. Sorry to all for this serious error. I misinterpreted 202.3673 which only mentions the buildings.
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AnakinsKid
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 09:47 am |
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Felid`Maximus wrote: AnakinsKid wrote: In the newest update you say,
Places One Cannot Carry a Firearm: Per NRS 202.265 one may not have a firearm anywhere on the property of a University, School, or Child Care facility. (Even with a concealed carry permit the buildings are still off limits though the rest of the property no longer is.)
What NRS makes the property not off limits for CCW holders? My church shares a parking lot with a Daycare/Preschool that we started, and I'm unsure if I can carry there. If there actually is an exemption for CCW holders, I'm ok.
You're right. Sorry to all for this serious error. I misinterpreted 202.3673 which only mentions the buildings.
NRS 202.3673 Permittee authorized to carry concealed firearm while on premises of public building; exceptions; penalty.
3. A permittee shall not carry a concealed firearm while he is on the premises of:
(a) A public building that is located on the property of a public school or a child care facility or the property of the Nevada System of Higher Education, unless the permittee has obtained written permission to carry a concealed firearm while he is on the premises of the public building pursuant to subparagraph (3) of paragraph (a) of subsection 3 of NRS 202.265.
I would interpret that the same as you did. It doesn't say not to carry on the property, just not in the buildings on the property.
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