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deepdiver
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Posted: Sat May 23rd, 2009 12:56 am |
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virginiatuck wrote: deepdiver wrote: Well, that may explain it. I sent in my non-resident application about 4-6 weeks ago and the check hasn't cleared the bank yet. I was getting concerned that they had not received it. I'll try to remember to call next week and see if they can even tell me if they received it.
Thanks for the info guys.
They will not confirm whether they have received your application. Verification of receipt would only exacerbate the backlog.
I have opted not to pursue the writ of mandamus and will instead wait it out. As of last Monday they were working on permits received on February 13th. They also said that they were working through weekends.
They said my permit should arrive within one week after my check clears.
Thanks!! I figured they would deposit the checks upon receipt and then process the applications as they got to them. Knowing that they don't deposit the check until they get further along in the process answers my question and quells my concern about their receipt of my application.
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FMCDH
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Posted: Sat May 23rd, 2009 02:49 am |
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On another planet...
Strangely enough and by some act of God I am sure, I got my Florida non-resident permit in only 70 days. My application packet was received by FDACS on 05 March and my permit was issued on the 13th of May, I received it today.
They must be picking up steam over there, or else something or someone spurred them to stop dragging.
Anyway, I'm happy. AND I got my Florida permit before I got my NH permit that was submitted on the 18th of Feb...who would have thought?! lol
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virginiatuck
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Posted: Thu Jun 4th, 2009 07:24 am |
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Application mailed: Feb. 18, 2009
Date check cashed/cleared: Jun. 1, 2009
Received license: Jun. 2 or 3, 2009
Postmark: Jun 1, 2009
Date issued (printed on license): May 27, 2009
Given the 6/1 postmark it likely arrived in my mailbox on 6/3, but I was out of town until now so I can't say that with 100% certainty.
Total time from application to receipt: 105 days (or 15 weeks)
It's too bad it came a day before I got back, I could have used the license while I was on this recent trip. Nevertheless, I am still glad to have this NH license and will hopefully get to visit the great state of NH later this year and drive or be inside of a car while carrying.
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Jared
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Posted: Thu Jun 4th, 2009 11:57 am |
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| You could have carried in NH on your VA permit. Since VA recognizes every states license, that means they recognize NH's. New Hampshire recognizes and states resident permit as long as that state recognizes NH's license. The state police website may not be up to date, but it doesn't have to be. The law does not require an agreement or anything.
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virginiatuck
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Posted: Thu Jun 4th, 2009 04:26 pm |
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Jared wrote: You could have carried in NH on your VA permit. Since VA recognizes every states license, that means they recognize NH's. New Hampshire recognizes and states resident permit as long as that state recognizes NH's license. The state police website may not be up to date, but it doesn't have to be. The law does not require an agreement or anything.
VA does not recognize every state's license. VA has some extraordinary requirements, such as 24/7 verification. Also in order to comply, NH may not allow a person to obtain a permit/license in NH who would be disqualified from obtaining a permit/license in VA. For at least one of those two reasons, NH and VA have not had reciprocity in the past. Unless something has changed recently, then I believe that NH does not recognize VA's permit.
Virginia Code Section 18.2-308, Subsection P:
P. A valid concealed handgun or concealed weapon permit or license issued by another state shall authorize the holder of such permit or license who is at least 21 years of age to carry a concealed handgun in the Commonwealth, provided (i) the issuing authority provides the means for instantaneous verification of the validity of all such permits or licenses issued within that state, accessible 24 hours a day, and (ii) except for the age of the permit or license holder and the type of weapon authorized to be carried, the requirements and qualifications of that state's law are adequate to prevent possession of a permit or license by persons who would be denied a permit in the Commonwealth under this section. The Superintendent of State Police shall (a) in consultation with the Office of the Attorney General determine whether states meet the requirements and qualifications of this section, (b) maintain a registry of such states on the Virginia Criminal Information Network (VCIN), and (c) make the registry available to law-enforcement officers for investigative purposes. The Superintendent of the State Police, in consultation with the Attorney General, may also enter into agreements for reciprocal recognition with any state qualifying for recognition under this subsection.
See subsection E of 18.2-308 for disqualified persons.
http://leg1.state.va.us/000/cod/18.2-308.HTM
Edited to fix ambiguous grammar.
Last edited on Tue Jun 9th, 2009 05:38 am by virginiatuck
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jegoodin
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Posted: Thu Jun 4th, 2009 05:44 pm |
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I'm a VA resident who also has a NH CCP that expires toward the end of July. I received a very nice letter in the mail last week from the NH State Police with a copy of the application for renewal. I filled it out the next day and sent it in.
NH is a class act. (BTW, I used to be a NH resident. Live Free or Die!)
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KBCraig
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Posted: Thu Jun 4th, 2009 06:47 pm |
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A VA license is not recognized by NH.
So far, there has been only one court in NH that ruled a man's VA license was good in NH (covered here). I don't know if it's been addressed by other courts.
Carrying concealed in NH on a VA license has some legal precedent, but you'd better be prepared for your own court battle. I think it cost Bill about $3,000 to win, and only then because his wife did most of the paralegal work.
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Mark (IL)
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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 06:57 pm |
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| Consistent with virginiatuck's experience, my application was mailed on 2/19, check was deposited on 6/2. I'm guessing permit has arrived, but we are on the road for a couple of weeks. 15 weeks appears to be the story at this point for nonresident permits.
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FMCDH
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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 07:34 pm |
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Mark (IL) wrote: Consistent with virginiatuck's experience, my application was mailed on 2/19, check was deposited on 6/2. I'm guessing permit has arrived, but we are on the road for a couple of weeks. 15 weeks appears to be the story at this point for nonresident permits.
Wow, and people are saying Florida was bad....netch!
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jegoodin
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Posted: Mon Jun 8th, 2009 03:38 pm |
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FMCDH wrote: Mark (IL) wrote: Consistent with virginiatuck's experience, my application was mailed on 2/19, check was deposited on 6/2. I'm guessing permit has arrived, but we are on the road for a couple of weeks. 15 weeks appears to be the story at this point for nonresident permits.
Wow, and people are saying Florida was bad....netch!
It must be a volume issue or something. When I first applied for my NH permit it took about 10 days from the time I put the application in the mail until I received it in the mail.
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MA106
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Posted: Fri Jun 12th, 2009 07:00 pm |
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jegoodin wrote: FMCDH wrote: Mark (IL) wrote: Consistent with virginiatuck's experience, my application was mailed on 2/19, check was deposited on 6/2. I'm guessing permit has arrived, but we are on the road for a couple of weeks. 15 weeks appears to be the story at this point for nonresident permits.
Wow, and people are saying Florida was bad....netch!
It must be a volume issue or something. When I first applied for my NH permit it took about 10 days from the time I put the application in the mail until I received it in the mail. im brand new on here. I live in MA. I just applied yesterday. Gave NH state police a heads up on my app. They said the backlog is up to 3 months now. 
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FMCDH
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Posted: Sat Jun 13th, 2009 02:12 am |
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Update....
Just received my NH Non-Resident permit yesterday in the mail.
Was submitted on Feb 18th and issued on Jun 1. (103 days)
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CapnKlay
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Posted: Wed Jun 17th, 2009 11:54 pm |
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Application mailed: March 09, 2009
Date check cashed/cleared: Not Yet
Received license: Not Yet
Total time from application to now: 100 days
Nothing Nada Zip.
According to your calculations I should be getting it in the next 3 to 5 days. <sigh>
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Jeremy2141
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 02:03 am |
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You guys are just going to have to move here.
They're increasing the fee to 100$ (if the budget passes) for non-resident. If you move, the resident fee is still 10$ and you can go see a judge and get one issued if the PD is slower than 14 days.
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CapnKlay
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 04:27 pm |
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Was that a "Nanner-nanner-boo-boo-I-Got-Mine-Quicker-Cuz-I-Live-Here"?  
I wish they would hurry and Cash THE CHECK!  I need to move the account and the check is outstanding.
I realize this is a terribly ignorant question: Is there a contact number where you can talk to an actual person and check to see if they have started the processing yet?  I am guessing not.
The wheels of government grind slowly - and I am feeling like road-kill.
Day 101 <sigh>
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Jeremy2141
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 10:21 pm |
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The number for the NH Department of Safety, Division of State Police, Support Services Division, Permits and Licensing Unit is (603) 271-3575.
They are, after all, required by law to have the permit issued within 14 days, just saying.
159:6 License to Carry. –
The license shall be issued within 14 days after application, and, if such application is denied, the reason for such denial shall be stated in writing, the original of which such writing shall be delivered to the applicant, and a copy kept in the office of the person to whom the application was made.
Of course, you can always open carry in NH without the permit.
Last edited on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 10:36 pm by Jeremy2141
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David59
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 10:48 pm |
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| Sent 3-1-09, cashed check 6-12-09 and received the permit today.
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CapnKlay
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Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 06:03 pm |
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Application mailed: March 09, 2009
Date issued (printed on license): June 23, 2009
Date check cashed/cleared: June 25, 2009
Postmark: June 25, 2009
Received license: June 29, 2009
Total time from application to receipt: 113 Days
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BIKER CHICK
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Posted: Fri Jul 31st, 2009 10:21 pm |
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| Hi Everyone. So if the application was sent in beginning of June with the $20 and doesn't get processed for three months, are they going to accept the $20 fee from that time or look to get the other $80 because of the Fee Increase July 1st? Thanks
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Jeremy2141
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Posted: Fri Jul 31st, 2009 11:23 pm |
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| They are required by law to issue the permit within 14 days. I would seriously look into calling and doing something about it. There are no excuses, they are REQUIRED to issue the permit within 14 days, PERIOD. I dont know how you go about getting them to issue it as required by law. Luckily, I live in NH, and my town PD issues it within a week.
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