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Jay
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 Posted: Tue Jan 5th, 2010 12:43 pm
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I was thinking about attending a New Hampshire community college. I could not find any topics on the subject in the forum so here we go. I found this in the student manual for River Valley Community College under prohibited items.

12. Possession of firearms, explosives, other weapons, or dangerous chemicals
on CCSNH college premises (including in vehicles) except as authorized by
the college for instructional, maintenance, or law enforcement purposes;


Is this allowed since the college is owned by the State of New Hampshire??

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 Posted: Tue Jan 5th, 2010 03:11 pm
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I hope you can make the Jan. 6th and/or Jan. 11 protest at the state house for a "empty holster " protest because there are rules and bills being pushed restricting your NH 2A rights and RSA statutes even more.  

Even NH government doesn't appear to follow the laws they make that is why I'll be in Concord tomorrow at the protest and speaking with District #10 reps.

There is no NH statute prohibiting carrying on campus and Tile XII Chp. 159
RSA 159:26 claims all prohibition must come from the legislature.

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XII/159/159-26.htmHB 1635

You should let every firearm owner you know to either get out there and make themselves know or at least contact their reps to stop these two anti 2A bills.

HB 1653
AN ACT prohibiting the open carrying of a firearm in a public building


http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2010/HB1635.html

HB 1654
AN ACT Relative to house security

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2010/HB1654.html

Check out http://www.FreeKeene.com, I believe that they were planing some school informational activities on citizens rights.

Contact Sara Adler in CT, a student that lobbies on campus for student carry if you need additional info

  http://www.facebook.com/#/adlersaj




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Jay
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 Posted: Wed Jan 6th, 2010 01:33 am
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First Responder wrote: I hope you can make the Jan. 6th and/or Jan. 11 protest at the state house for a "empty holster " protest because there are rules and bills being pushed restricting your NH 2A rights and RSA statutes even more.

I will try and make it the 11th.

So I am right that currently the college has to follow the letter of the law. So my next question is how do I get them to change there policy to allow gun carry. Because something in the back of my head tells me. They are not going to give a s**t what I say. Even if I staple the statue to there forehead while I :banghead:

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 Posted: Wed Jan 6th, 2010 12:56 pm
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Jay, I support open carry, but the community colleges of NH are not owned or operated by the state. For the past year and a half they have been separating from the state, and like any other college can define and enforce their own rules regarding what is allowed on campus.
Please don't let this stop you from attending though - they are great schools with great staff and a very low crime rate. In fact, I am employed by the CCSNH and can tell you that each of the 7 colleges publishes annual crime statistics on their websites as required by law.

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 Posted: Wed Jan 6th, 2010 01:31 pm
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pgauthier wrote: I am employed by the CCSNH and can tell you that each of the 7 colleges publishes annual crime statistics on their websites as required by law.
I thank you for your support on open carry. I did not realize they were no longer part of the state because I saw that the state department of human resources does the hiring and job postings for the community colleges.  As far as the crime statistics go have you personally looked at them because I have looked at three of the community college statistics on their respected websites. According to the ones I have looked at there has never been any crime. There are 0's under every category I find that a little hard to believe especially at Manchester College.

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 Posted: Thu Jan 7th, 2010 12:50 pm
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You got me there Jay, I have no idea how accurate these reports are, but they are required by what is called the "Cleary Act" and are supposed to include all criminal activity on the campus.

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 Posted: Sat Jan 9th, 2010 12:35 am
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I'm guessing you live in or around Lebanon,NH and are looking at the Community College's in and around the surrounding  county's? Having worked in Grafton county and lived in Sullivan county for most of my life I can tell you that for the most part the crime in the two county's is vary low. Most of the crime we get is drug related. Having attended the Claremont Community college before the change's to the community college system took place. Then it was NCTC now it's renamed to River Valley Community College. I can tell you Their is no crime at the college's really to speak of. I have also attend the NCTC in Laconia and I can tell you that all community colleges are not equal AT ALL. The Claremont one is vary nice and kept clean and has a vary nice lay out to it Vs the Laconia one that is vary dirty and has a vary crappy lay out to them. But things may have changed at the Laconia one sence 2005 when I attended it. The Claremont one was just remodeled and looks even better now then it did in 2005. Vary good college system just not for me as I wanted to work on a BS/BA right off the bat and stay at one school and not have to worry about transferring to a new school after two years. I would also look into GSC ( Granite State College) they are a vary good college as well and offer both BS/BA and AS degree's another huge plus is unlike the Community colleges who's classes are 3 credit's each and you need ( last i checked) 6 credit's to be part time and 12 to be full time and get Aid. Granite State College classes are 4 credits each so you can take one class and be classified a full time student  VS needing two or more classes.    

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 Posted: Sat Jan 9th, 2010 12:53 am
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Thanks for the information I really did not think that they have a high crime. It is just the principle that is all. Yes I am looking into the River Valley College. I am not for a BA just a couple A&P classes. I am looking to get into a program at Dartmouth Medical Center and A&P is the prereq for the program

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 Posted: Sat Jan 9th, 2010 06:37 am
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Just keep in mind that at that college to receive the full extent of your finical aid/grants you have to be a full time student ( 12 credits).  No idea what your life is like but most people have to work and still like a life outside of work and school. At River Valley and other NCTC's 12 credits is three class's. To receive any aid at all you have to be a part time student at six credits ( two classes) at four to five hours per class. So if your looking to pay for your schooling out of pocket they are great schools. Being a young family man and working I did not have time to due all that on top of the fact stated in the above post I made about wanting a BA degree. Granite state is state wide college like NCTC system if your out and have time look into them they have offices in Claremont in the center of town (Pleasant street) as well as in Lebanon.

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 Posted: Sat Jan 9th, 2010 12:34 pm
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I am taking two classes at six credits so I will receive half the of the available financial aid. The two classes are on-line except for the A&P Lab. I can deal with going to the college one night a week. Then sitting at home and doing the rest of it from the comfort of my couch.


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