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SGT Jensen
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Posted: Tue Apr 22nd, 2008 10:38 pm |
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| I will be visiting Fort Dix next month, and wanted to be sure that wearing an empty holster in New Jersey will be OK. Also, I would like opinions on carrying an air soft pistol, which is clear and looks obviously fake. Would this be lawful in New Jersey? I feel kinda dumb asking about an air soft pistol, but I feel naked without my sidearm, and want to make a political statement while I am there.
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PT111
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 02:13 am |
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SGT Jensen wrote: I will be visiting Fort Dix next month, and wanted to be sure that wearing an empty holster in New Jersey will be OK. Also, I would like opinions on carrying an air soft pistol, which is clear and looks obviously fake. Would this be lawful in New Jersey? I feel kinda dumb asking about an air soft pistol, but I feel naked without my sidearm, and want to make a political statement while I am there.
Be sure to carry some bail money along with that airsoft and the number of a good lawyer. I have no idea the legtality of it but I am sure you will find out before you leave NJ.
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Evil Ernie
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 02:53 am |
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I believe airsoft guns are a no-no. Check NJ statutes, but I don't think they would be your friend if you showed up with an AS gun. The empty holster probably wouldn't go over too big either.
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SGT Jensen
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 05:54 am |
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Well, this could rule out carrying an Airsoft.
2C:39-4. Possession of weapons for unlawful purposes.
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e. Imitation firearms. Any person who has in his possession an imitation firearm under circumstances that would lead an observer to reasonably believe that it is possessed for an unlawful purpose is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree.
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DT4E31
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Posted: Thu Apr 24th, 2008 05:53 pm |
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I dont believe anyone in NJ would understand what your empty holster is trying to make as a statement. It would probably just generate negative attention. Perhaps a T shirt supporting the 2nd Amend and open carry would be easier understood in joisey.
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Decoligny
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Posted: Thu Apr 24th, 2008 06:50 pm |
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| If you do wear an empty holster in Jersey, be careful not to get pulled over with it on. This could give the LEO probable cause to believe that you have a weapon in the vehicle, and give them justification to do a complete search of the passenger compartment. Not saying they would find anything, but it would be a pain in the @** to have stand there in cuffs while they take the time to go through everything. Last edited on Thu Apr 24th, 2008 06:51 pm by Decoligny
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thnycav
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Posted: Tue May 20th, 2008 08:13 pm |
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| Add to that the fun of getting on to Ft Dix. Even if you could oc in NJ you would not be able to take a weapon on to Ft Dix. That is federal property. It is the same down here in VA. I work with the Provost Marshal office at Ft Eustis which includes Ft Story. When you get on a federal installation you automatically give your consent and are subject to have you and your vehicle searched.
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Posted: Tue May 20th, 2008 10:53 pm |
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thnycav wrote: Add to that the fun of getting on to Ft Dix. Even if you could oc in NJ you would not be able to take a weapon on to Ft Dix. That is federal property. It is the same down here in VA. I work with the Provost Marshal office at Ft Eustis which includes Ft Story. When you get on a federal installation you automatically give your consent and are subject to have you and your vehicle searched.
I'm not familiar with federal code but I believe only federal buildings are restricted and not necessarily all federal property (the land around a building). Other then a base commander expelling one from the property or a detention for investigation for some other crime, like sabotage etc..., what would the federal charge be for open carrying a loaded firearm on a federal installation in compliance with the host state's laws (assuming OC was not prohibited by state law)?
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scarletwahoo
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Posted: Fri May 23rd, 2008 11:20 pm |
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Airsoft guns are illegal in NJ, so that is a no no. If you notice, they sell them in walmarts in PA, but not in NJ. Back when I was in high school in NJ, a few of my friends had airsoft guns, but had to drive to PA to get them.
"Firearm or firearms" means ... It shall also include, without limitation, any
firearm which is in the nature of an air gun, spring gun or pistol or other weapon of a similar nature"
full text here, http://www.state.nj.us/njsp/info/pdf/firearms/njac-title13-ch54.pdf
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