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vbnative73
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 Posted: Mon Jun 2nd, 2008 06:51 am
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The following is what little I know of a situation that happened in NJ. I only know VA laws, so given these limited details can someone explain why this may have been illegal? The suspended license is a no-brainer but the weapons charges don't make sense to me.

"ON 31 MAY, AT 0930, A 25 Y/O MALE E5 WAS STOPPED FOR SPEEDING AND ARRESTED BY MAHWAH, NJ POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR DRIVING UNDER SUSPENDED LICENSE, POSSESSION OF HOLLOW POINT ROUNDS, HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINE, KNIFE AND A SPRINGFIELD 9MM PISTOL."

I'm assuming that since he is Active Duty Navy, he is not a convicted felon. Like I said, I don't know NJ law. Can someone explain the charges as they relate to the law there?

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 Posted: Mon Jun 2nd, 2008 08:13 am
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Hollowpoint rounds are HIGHLY illegal in New Jersey, I believe (dont quote me on this) that you can get up to 5 years for each round of hollowpoint ammo you have on your person.

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 Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 04:59 pm
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Hollow points are legal for home use and at the range ONLY!
Do not get caught with them anywhere else.
If he can't prove he was going to or coming from a shooting range or the store he just bought them at "he's screwed"!
I'm not sure about active LEOs but retired cops with CCWs can't use them either.
He had better be directly on his way to the range or his home also, no stopping at
the 7-11, walmart, etc. Thats a big NO-NO also in this state.


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 Posted: Thu Jun 5th, 2008 02:02 am
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The way it is written tells me that he was charged with possession of the 9mm as well. Evidently, he didn't have a permit to own the handgun...BIG NO NO in NJ. I wonder if he had it on him (as in CC or OC), that tacks on more vacation time in the graybar hotel. The knife is a no no if it's over 3.5 inches (correct me if I'm wrong). Man, talk about wrong state at the wrong time...he's totally screwed...

NJ weapons law in a nutshell: You ain't allow to have'em!!!
Hollowpoints: illegal
Knife over 3.5 in: illegal
Mag over 10 rnds: illegal
Handgun w/o permit to own: illegal
Breathing in NJ: illegal
Get it? Good.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 6th, 2008 08:13 pm
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Evil Ernie wrote: The way it is written tells me that he was charged with possession of the 9mm as well. Evidently, he didn't have a permit to own the handgun...BIG NO NO in NJ. I wonder if he had it on him (as in CC or OC), that tacks on more vacation time in the graybar hotel. The knife is a no no if it's over 3.5 inches (correct me if I'm wrong). Man, talk about wrong state at the wrong time...he's totally screwed...

NJ weapons law in a nutshell: You ain't allow to have'em!!!
Hollowpoints: illegal
Knife over 3.5 in: illegal
Mag over 10 rnds: illegal
Handgun w/o permit to own: illegal
Breathing in NJ: illegal
Get it? Good.

What a state! You have the biggest a-hole governor, surpassed only by the morons in the Senate. If I owned hell and NJ, I'd live in hell and rent NJ to the ragheads.

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 Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 05:13 pm
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Evil Ernie wrote: The way it is written tells me that he was charged with possession of the 9mm as well. Evidently, he didn't have a permit to own the handgun...BIG NO NO in NJ. I wonder if he had it on him (as in CC or OC), that tacks on more vacation time in the graybar hotel. The knife is a no no if it's over 3.5 inches (correct me if I'm wrong). Man, talk about wrong state at the wrong time...he's totally screwed...

NJ weapons law in a nutshell: You ain't allow to have'em!!!
Hollowpoints: illegal
Knife over 3.5 in: illegal
Mag over 10 rnds: illegal
Handgun w/o permit to own: illegal
Breathing in NJ: illegal
Get it? Good.


There is a lot of mis-information in this post so I thought I'd clear it up for you.

There are really only a few specific firearms that are illegal to possess, and you can usually get around it by buying a clone. The restricted firearms are listed by name (Colt AR-15), so getting a clone (Bushmaster) allows you to skirt by.
  • Hollowpoints are not illegal. You can buy them at any place that sells ammo. They're illegal to use in a crime. You can have them in your home and at the range. It is not illegal to travel with ammunition.
  • Knives with blades over 3.5" are illegal to carry. You can certaintly own them, just dont carry them around in your pocket in a public place.
  • Mags over *15* rounds are illegal.
  • NJ handgun permits are PERMITS TO PURCHASE, not permits to own. If you have an NJ firearms ID card, and already own a handgun, you do not need to file for anything to own that handgun.
Other tidbits people often confuse:
  • You do not need to register firearms in NJ. They strongly encourage it, and all purchases are well documented, but as far as formal registration, it is not required. If you inherit firearms from an elder, as long as you are in the legal capacity to own them (ie: you have a valid Firearms ID), you do not need to do anything.
  • Concealed carry in NJ is *technically* a may-issue. Effectively, it's a non-issue. There are 8.5M people in NJ, and about 3500 CCW holders. All are either ex-LEO or private security. The nice little maps that show NJ as may-issue should really be noted with this fact.

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 Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 08:14 pm
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i just wanted to let you know that i have family in NJ and i know it's not a 10 round limit to mags but a 15 round limit. it's the only state that does have a limit that is something other then 10. maybe this will be a help to some.

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 Posted: Sat Jun 28th, 2008 03:16 am
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Arrested for possession of a pistol and a knife, damn, I thought this was America.


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