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b_loveland
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Posted: Fri Sep 18th, 2009 01:06 am |
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I live in new jersey here is what my FID card says
State of NJ Firearms purchaser IDENTIFICATION CARD
this is to certify that
john doe residing at number#20 Street# main st.
City Anytown State NJ
is hereby granted permission to purchase rifles and shotguns persuant to provisions of N.J.S.2c:58-3 with amendments and supplements
This card only allows me to purchase long guns it is not a permit to carry and cannot be used as a permit to cary. In NJ I can only be in possetion at hiome, the range, and hunting grounds. or traveling between one place i may leagaly have a gun to another place I can have a gun, but I cannot make any stops along the way.
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xdm guy
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Posted: Sat Sep 19th, 2009 07:09 am |
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I wonder how the LEOS would handle the national right to carry act when it passes since it is a ( may issue state  )
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SlackwareRobert
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Posted: Mon Sep 21st, 2009 08:09 pm |
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GWbiker wrote: I can list two reasons why I'll always avoid traveling into New Jersey.
1). Very restrictive gun laws.
2). Crazy ex wife lives there.
How did you get them to drop the DV charges so you weren't banned for life?
NJ judge + Ex = gun banned 
I wouldn't like it, but if I need a transplant I hear they have them for sale. 
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Sonora Rebel
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Posted: Tue Sep 22nd, 2009 09:10 pm |
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| The best idea for applying for a permit... is leave NJ and everything it stands for as soon as your senses will adjust to the fact that NJ is a socialist cesspool. Upon escaping to saner residence... obtain a CCW/CWP someplace where freedom to do so is unhampred by local tyranny.
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Task Force 16
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Posted: Wed Sep 23rd, 2009 06:18 am |
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Sonora Rebel wrote: The best idea for applying for a permit... is leave NJ and everything it stands for as soon as your senses will adjust to the fact that NJ is a socialist cesspool. Upon escaping to saner residence... obtain a CCW/CWP someplace where freedom to do so is unhampred by local tyranny.
I second Sonora Rebels suggestion. Get out of there before that "exit tax" goes into effect.
 Hey!, isn't that kind of like.....ransom?
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press1280
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Posted: Sun Sep 27th, 2009 03:06 pm |
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They'd have no idea what to do. They probably seldom, if ever, even encounter the few legit non-LEO NJ permits out there. They probably don't even know what one looks like.
I'd bet if a national reciprocity bill passes, NJ would be the first to have their officials violate it. Just look at the number of incidents of FOPA being violated, most, if not all, seem to be at the hands of the NY/NJ Port Authority.
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xdm guy
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Posted: Tue Sep 29th, 2009 11:04 pm |
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press1280 wrote: They'd have no idea what to do. They probably seldom, if ever, even encounter the few legit non-LEO NJ permits out there. They probably don't even know what one looks like.
I'd bet if a national reciprocity bill passes, NJ would be the first to have their officials violate it. Just look at the number of incidents of FOPA being violated, most, if not all, seem to be at the hands of the NY/NJ Port Authority.
I wonder how much the taxes would have to go up because of judgements awarded to people befor the the citizens start to raise hell when the national right to carry act passes ?
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xdm guy
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Posted: Tue Sep 29th, 2009 11:08 pm |
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| Has anyone every seen one of these mythical things ? Could someone post a pic of this urban legend.
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Dutch Uncle
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Posted: Tue Sep 29th, 2009 11:22 pm |
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b_loveland wrote: I live in new jersey here is what my FID card says
State of NJ Firearms purchaser IDENTIFICATION CARD
this is to certify that
john doe residing at number#20 Street# main st.
City Anytown State NJ
is hereby granted permission to purchase rifles and shotguns persuant to provisions of N.J.S.2c:58-3 with amendments and supplements
This card only allows me to purchase long guns it is not a permit to carry and cannot be used as a permit to cary. In NJ I can only be in possetion at hiome, the range, and hunting grounds. or traveling between one place i may leagaly have a gun to another place I can have a gun, but I cannot make any stops along the way.
My God!! "hereby GRANTED permission" to exercise his civil rights, as protected by the 2nd amendment to the US Constitution. What an absolute obscenity. Don't the lords and masters of the Garden State have any idea how idiotic their laws sound?? (That's a rhetorical question. Don't bother replying)
God, I hope someday there will be a mass demonstration against the repressions of the ruling class there.
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cbackous
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Posted: Fri Oct 2nd, 2009 09:32 am |
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Dutch Uncle wrote: b_loveland wrote: I live in new jersey here is what my FID card says
State of NJ Firearms purchaser IDENTIFICATION CARD
this is to certify that
john doe residing at number#20 Street# main st.
City Anytown State NJ
is hereby granted permission to purchase rifles and shotguns persuant to provisions of N.J.S.2c:58-3 with amendments and supplements
This card only allows me to purchase long guns it is not a permit to carry and cannot be used as a permit to cary. In NJ I can only be in possetion at hiome, the range, and hunting grounds. or traveling between one place i may leagaly have a gun to another place I can have a gun, but I cannot make any stops along the way.
My God!! "hereby GRANTED permission" to exercise his civil rights, as protected by the 2nd amendment to the US Constitution. What an absolute obscenity. Don't the lords and masters of the Garden State have any idea how idiotic their laws sound?? (That's a rhetorical question. Don't bother replying)
God, I hope someday there will be a mass demonstration against the repressions of the ruling class there.
Well, incorporation should get the ball rolling for that, as well as many other areas. I still feel sorry for the victims of these crazy, unconstitutional laws.
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jdgypsy
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Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2009 06:30 am |
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Without looking up all the stuff, and being NJ it would be hard to figure out, can someone from NJ explain to me what the process is in NJ to get a CC permit. I know you have to produce a valid reason, BS, but the actual process. Who do you start with and where does the paperwork go from there? Who is the deciding factor if you get one or not? I am from there, but it has been years since I actually lived there, thankfully. Still have family there, poor soles. Next time I am home visiting I am thinking about filing an application out with whomever.
Any info is appreciated. Thanks.
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Grapeshot
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Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2009 06:43 am |
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jdgypsy wrote: Without looking up all the stuff, and being NJ it would be hard to figure out, can someone from NJ explain to me what the process is in NJ to get a CC permit. I know you have to produce a valid reason, BS, but the actual process. Who do you start with and where does the paperwork go from there? Who is the deciding factor if you get one or not? I am from there, but it has been years since I actually lived there, thankfully. Still have family there, poor soles. Next time I am home visiting I am thinking about filing an application out with whomever.
Any info is appreciated. Thanks.
This will give some starter info:
http://www.ehow.com/how_2064612_get-permit-carry-concealed-weapon.html
Not likely to be successful though, but good luck anyway.
Yata hey
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WheelGun
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Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2009 03:36 pm |
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How to get a NJ permit to carry:
1. Realize it's almost impossible.
2. Research the NJ gun laws.
2. Go back and edit #1 above to remove the word almost.
3. Decide not to bother trying to get the permit.
4. Work out ways to do what you have to do without physically stepping foot in NJ.
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jdgypsy
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Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2009 05:34 pm |
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LOL, I was expecting an answer like that. I had found that website already but found others stating something about the state supreme court having to do something with the application. The link sent said the issuing authority was the local police chief. So I go to the local police office, are they the ones who say yes or no or does it go up further after them? That is where I had the question, I may have a "in" if it is just the police dept, if it is higher then I will go with your advice and forget it all. Thanks again.
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thejax
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Posted: Sun Oct 11th, 2009 09:11 pm |
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One of you made a point about the FID only permits to purchase, not carry in regards to a long gun. But the law itself, not the FID, allows you to carry a long gun with an FID.
Correct me if I am wrong here.
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eric55
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Posted: Sun Oct 18th, 2009 01:04 am |
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xdm guy wrote: I wonder how the LEOS would handle the national right to carry act when it passes since it is a ( may issue state ) unless they changed the wording on the card this is what mine reads
john doe................... is hereby granted permission to purchase and carry rifles and shotguns pursuant to provisions of N.J.S 2c:58:-3 and 2c:39-5 with amendments and supplements
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jerz_subbie
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Posted: Mon Oct 19th, 2009 07:28 pm |
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eric55 wrote: xdm guy wrote: I wonder how the LEOS would handle the national right to carry act when it passes since it is a ( may issue state ) unless they changed the wording on the card this is what mine reads
john doe................... is hereby granted permission to purchase and carry rifles and shotguns pursuant to provisions of N.J.S 2c:58:-3 and 2c:39-5 with amendments and supplements
Though I'm no longer an NJ resident I still have my FID card issued only a few years ago and it does NOT have the word "carry" anywhere on it.
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Posted: Mon Oct 19th, 2009 07:54 pm |
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jerz_subbie wrote: eric55 wrote: xdm guy wrote: I wonder how the LEOS would handle the national right to carry act when it passes since it is a ( may issue state ) unless they changed the wording on the card this is what mine reads
john doe................... is hereby granted permission to purchase and carry rifles and shotguns pursuant to provisions of N.J.S 2c:58:-3 and 2c:39-5 with amendments and supplements
Though I'm no longer an NJ resident I still have my FID card issued only a few years ago and it does NOT have the word "carry" anywhere on it.
i guess they changed it, i got mine 8 years ago and it says carry so i guess since mine says carry i could carry 
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jerz_subbie
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Posted: Mon Oct 19th, 2009 08:02 pm |
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eric55 wrote: jerz_subbie wrote: eric55 wrote: xdm guy wrote: I wonder how the LEOS would handle the national right to carry act when it passes since it is a ( may issue state ) unless they changed the wording on the card this is what mine reads
john doe................... is hereby granted permission to purchase and carry rifles and shotguns pursuant to provisions of N.J.S 2c:58:-3 and 2c:39-5 with amendments and supplements
Though I'm no longer an NJ resident I still have my FID card issued only a few years ago and it does NOT have the word "carry" anywhere on it.
i guess they changed it, i got mine 8 years ago and it says carry so i guess since mine says carry i could carry
Worth a shot if you've got deep pockets and a good pro2A attorney, let us know how it works  haha
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jdgypsy
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Posted: Tue Oct 20th, 2009 12:19 am |
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That is the problem with NJ law and the idiots who run the place and enforce them. If the card says you can, I assume it does in on one, then you should and can do it. The response is "hope you have deep pockets" and I agree with that statement.
The issue is that if the card says it and you do it, you face the extreme of getting locked up or at a minimum a empty piggy bank.
Get out while you can, if everyone was to eventually get outta there, what money would they make? Speeding tickets for those who have no choice but to pass thru and the TOLLS they have to pay. I know, it's unrealistic, but talk about teaching that state a lesson. If only........
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