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Pulled Over doing 20 in a 25.. Is that legal?
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SlackwareRobert
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 Posted: Thu Dec 11th, 2008 04:29 pm
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I think the sad point is, if you get pulled over a few miles from your house....
45 min for a ticket when you live there, have all your paperwork.
Now same location several years after I moved out of state.
Old expired registration, car registered in 1 state, licence from another and
didn't have it with me, and I was on my way in 5 minutes with my ticket.

Just like the rest of the justice system, a law abiding citizen has no chance, it
is set up for the crooks.

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 Posted: Thu Dec 11th, 2008 08:57 pm
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to quote Bob Dylan ( travelling Wilburys)

"everything is legal in jersey as long as you don't get caught"

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yankees98a wrote: Was being followed by a cop for 2 miles doing a main st stretch... Did 26 in a 30 then 20 in a 25. (Was late at night and new to the roads).

Was it legal to be pulled over. Reason was I was going slow so they wanted to "make sure" I was ok.


I do not know if it was legal, but when I was in high school, a cop was tailing me and my friend for a while.  For that reason my friend made sure he was driving under the speed limit in a 65 mph zone.  The cop pulled us over, harassed us a bit, and told him he was driving too slow (60 in a 65) and gave him a careless driving ticket.  I wish that would have happened when we were older.

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SlackwareRobert wrote: Was a Tenn state trooper, Ga. has a one mile stretch of the highway, when I crossed
the state line I took off, and then braked back into Tn.

Leads me to wonder if anyone has ever used extradition law to contest a ticket,
If he tried to get me out of state I knew I would be one of the first.
Course I did get a tail in Ga once with an entire car full of weapons.
I was moving 16 guns, and 7 swords down here and made a wrong turn.
No trunk to put them in, cop would have laid a brick if he pulled me over im shure.





I was pulled over a few years ago on the George Washington Parkway by a Washington Metro Airport Authority cop, who wrote me a summons to appear in Arlington County District Court.  He said his piece and I pulled out a map. You see, about a mile of GW Parkway crosses the Boundary Channel and thus is in the District of Columbia and not in Virginia.  Hence Barney Fife could not charge me under Virginia law. Case dismissed!!:celebrate:celebrate:celebrate:celebrate:celebrate


 

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What does this thread have to do with open carry or gun rights?

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nitrovic wrote: What does this thread have to do with open carry or gun rights?
Actually, nothing, Nitro.  "General discussion" amounts to a bunch of us sitting around the cracker barrel swapping ideas and stories and it gets a bit -  okay more than a bit = off topic.  We all need to vent, and BTW I meant NO disrespect to the VAST MAJORITY of LEOs who so competently and bravely deter the zoo life from impinging upon the rest of us as we try to improve our own lots and those of our fellow man.  I was actually discomfited by the fact that I had made a jackass out of an LEO in court and apologized for it to a couple of his fellows.  They told me not to worry because he was held in low esteem by most of his LEO bretheren, precisely because he was prone to doing things such as I called him on.

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The only reason I bring it up is because I can see where this may be going (and ALWAYS does when this type of thing is brought up). The forum rules state that even in the GD forum, it has to somehow relate to OC, gun rights etc. I fail to see how getting pulled over for doing 20 in a 25 is relevant. No offense intended to anybody in this thread.

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vermonter wrote:
NJ police harass more than any other state. In Texas they will just drag you out of the car and beat you senseless if you even sass them. I would NEVER live in NJ (or TX). Try VT, PA, MT, OR, WA if you can move. NJ is just out of hand!

This is what I'm talking about. I'm sure the regular police haters will not be far behind...

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All is nail to a hammer.  All is hate to a cop-wannnabe.

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 Posted: Mon Dec 29th, 2008 01:35 pm
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I personally don't have a problem with this thread, and found it informative as it discusses our rights when stopped by the police (an event very directly related to OC imo).

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diesel556 wrote:
I personally don't have a problem with this thread, and found it informative as it discusses our rights when stopped by the police (an event very directly related to OC imo).


Was the poster carrying? I didn't catch that part.

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nitrovic wrote: diesel556 wrote:
I personally don't have a problem with this thread, and found it informative as it discusses our rights when stopped by the police (an event very directly related to OC imo).


Was the poster carrying? I didn't catch that part.


I don't think so.

But i must say when i lived in a party town and did my share of wrong things I ALWAYS did the spped limit useually say the speed limit was 55 I did 57-58 never had no problems.

  Not sayin I didnt deserve it though. Was even followed by several hwy patrols and deputies.

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 Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2009 09:26 pm
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Had to go back to the OP to come up with this: To answer your original question, pig-poking down the highway is - along with driving with parking lights on and braking an intersection before a red signal among other things - a "symptom" of an intoxicated driver. 

So is lighting up a cigarettte when a cop gets in the rear-view.  A few months ago I lit one cig after the other and threw the used butt out the window.  The cop behind me puulled me over and after asking questions I knew (from experience as a Military LEO) were designed to elicit responses that would (a) show slurring in my speech patterns and (2) allow him to get a good whiff of my breath.  He then gave mw a warning for "littering" and let me go.  we both knew what was really up.

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 Posted: Tue May 12th, 2009 03:54 am
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in the state of nj it is the cops pref. he can pull u over if they think ur goin to slow.. they can give u the careless driving also.

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Miracle wrote: vermonter wrote: NJ police harass more than any other state. In Texas they will just drag you out of the car and beat you senseless if you even sass them. I would NEVER live in NJ (or TX). Try VT, PA, MT, OR, WA if you can move. NJ is just out of hand!

Please don't stereotype us this way. I've lived in Texas 37 years, been pulled over my fair share for speeding and never been beaten by a cop. Neither has a single person I know.

Thanks muchly :P

I have a friend who is a cop for a municipality in NJ.  He does this all the time.  When he comes to hang with us he tells us stories and we are like, "You are such an ***hole".  He says its fun because drivers get really really nervous and they do something wrong.  Then he pulls them over and gives them a real hard time.

I don't agree with it.  I just wanted to throw in the conversation I know someone like this and my friends don't appreciate his cowboy stories like you don't appreciate him following you.

He's a great guy to buddy around with but not the best cop to bargain with.  He told me he once pulled over his pastor and give him a ticket.  Like I said, some people are just different when they put on the uniform.  Its a shame.

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Tell me about it.  We have two Hack Inspectors here in Alexandria, ones an older former motorcycle cop and he is okay.  The other is a young hot-dog who has every characteristic of Barney Fife except he's real, and carries a loaded Glock.  He once pulled a driver over and took him out of service for  - I am not making this up -  having low tire pressure.  And he is not a bad guy to talk to, but until the City reined him in he would be on the street every day citing people for having a few leaves on the floor or even in the trunk (on a rainy, slushy windy winter day) and other such nonsense, and taking them out of service until they showed up at his office for a re-inspection.  But that's human nature. Give some people a badge and look out.

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Police enjoy their complete power to abuse the public any way they want, under any ruse. The kangaroo courts allow them to with blatant disregard for law or the Constitution.

You can be lucky the cop didn't Taser you just for kicks.

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 Posted: Wed May 27th, 2009 07:33 am
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yankees98a wrote: Was it legal to be pulled over. Reason was I was going slow so they wanted to "make sure" I was ok.
NO it is not legal to pull you over to "make sure you're OK."    Too many Americans have no idea what their rights are.   Take the time to study the subject and educate yourself.   A great place to start is the instructional video Busted: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving Police Encounters.


Braveheart_NJ wrote: You can be lucky the cop didn't Taser you just for kicks.
You mean like what happened to Pastor Anderson?  

Last edited on Wed May 27th, 2009 07:34 am by spiritof76

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nitrovic wrote: What does this thread have to do with open carry or gun rights?
First, they came for the drivers...

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 Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 01:10 am
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Alexcabbie wrote:
citing people for having a few leaves on the floor or even in the trunk (on a rainy, slushy windy winter day) and other such nonsense...
What is illegal about leaves on the floor? I must be ignorant.


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