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Sonora Rebel
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 04:03 pm |
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The RIGHT of the PEOPLE to KEEP and BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!
Judges are required to support and defend the Constitution... PERIOD! All of it!
The Constitution pre-dates many States. Even State Constitutions parallel the USC.
Arizona: Section 2 Article 26 "The right of the people to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves or the state shall not be impaired."
Again... the PEOPLE. You and your educated beyond reasonable usefulness moonbat buddies can't seem to see the forest for the tree. It's all blah-blah-blah... sniffy self rightious brain phart chit-chat.
The people... each individual PERSON has a pre-exiting RIGHT to self defense and the means to that end. ARMS. The Constitution does not specify firearms or which flavor.
SCJ Scalia: “Nowhere else in the Constitution does a ”right“ attributed to ”the people“ refer to anything other than an individual right. What is more, in all six other provisions of the Constitution that mention ”the people,“ the term unambiguously refers to all members of the political community, not an unspecified subset... The Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitutearms... The very text of the Second Amendment implicitly recognizes the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it ‘shall not be infringed’.”
Now... if that isn't clear enuff... you need to take your meds 'n get back to the ward.
Last edited on Thu Sep 25th, 2008 04:11 pm by Sonora Rebel
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The Donkey
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 04:17 pm |
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Sonora Rebel wrote: The RIGHT of the PEOPLE to KEEP and BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!
Judges are required to support and defend the Constitution... PERIOD! All of it!
The Constitution pre-dates many States. Even State Constitutions parallel the USC.
Arizona: Section 2 Article 26 "The right of the people to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves or the state shall not be impaired."
Again... the PEOPLE. You and your educated beyond reasonable usefulness moonbat buddies can't seem to see the forest for the tree. It's all blah-blah-blah... sniffy self rightious brain phart chit-chat.
The people... each individual PERSON has a pre-exiting RIGHT to self defense and the means to that end. ARMS. The Constitution does not specify firearms or which flavor.
SCJ Scalia: "The Second Amendment extends prima facie to all instruments which constitute bearable arms.
Oh, so you're asking what I think?
Well, I agree with you, at least as far as 2A goes.
But what you and I think, plus 25 cents, will buy you a gumball.
So why should you care what those old brain fart judges think?
Tell you what, lets do an experiment: come up to New York City and open carry on 42nd street.
Then I'll come up and we can discuss selective incorporation through the bars during visiting hours.
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Sonora Rebel
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 04:31 pm |
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| New York, DC, Maryland, Illinois and others have exercised tyrannical, illegal, direct violations of the Constitution for more years than I've been around. They get awy with it because the people 'there' let them. They've been inculcated to the point where they don't know any better... and those that do are silenced. Bloomberg would have a coronary here. I run into 'snowbirds' from NY now and then who FREAK open mouthed at the sight of a holstered .45. Social 'conditioning'...? LEO's who enforce such illegal 'laws' are errand boys sent by grocery clerks. What Lenin termed: 'Useful Idiots'.
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murphy2
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 05:46 pm |
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| It is hard to say where the US. as a whole went wrong. I have always thought and read the US. Constitution was "The law of the land". I thought it was in plain English so all could understand it. But as written in another post, this was not so. Who then is it written for? I think Jesus had it right when he said "woe to you lawyers". Freedom is what the country is about (or used to be). If you pack a gun, so what? Are you waving it at people? You can drive 2 tons of steel down the road and no worries. Couldn't you drive it on the sidewalk if you wanted to kill people? Why are weapons such a feared right? When driving a car is not a right, but a privilege. I think a weapon asserts that right to freedom. This is why people of power (by title) fear the independent people of this land. Talk about "loopholes" incorporated not incorporated blah,blah and blah! "All men are created equal" YES? No? What the F***! You are an American or a cowered! Which is it?
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Mike
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Posted: Sat Oct 4th, 2008 04:36 pm |
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murphy2 wrote: It is hard to say where the US. as a whole went wrong. I have always thought and read the US. Constitution was "The law of the land". I thought it was in plain English so all could understand it. But as written in another post, this was not so. Who then is it written for?
Read the Constitution carefully - you will see it was written to create a bifurcated republic where states retained most of their sovereignty. However, the federal government's Treaty power was written so broadly that the United States may enter into a Treaty which lawfully changes at least some of the terms of the Constitution.
The Bill of rights was written to codify some of the individual rights protected by the Constitution against FEDERAL power. Not state power.
The Fourteenth Amendment passed after the Civil War was meant to change that - it just took over a century to get the Supreme Court to substantially enforce the Fourteenth Amendment in this way, and the process of incorporating the Second Amendment shows that this process is not yet complete.
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murphy2
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 07:37 pm |
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| So!? Is it a "right" or a "privilege"? Is it worth dying for?
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 09:01 pm |
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murphy2 wrote: So!? Is it a "right" or a "privilege"? Is it worth dying for? Being an admirer of George Patton, I think the more apropos question is "is it worth killing for?"
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Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 12:36 am |
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| Well said! This is the only reason I even vote. So when, God forbid, I have to pull the trigger. I can do it with a clear conscious. The powers that be do not think there are folks with the fortitude of our founding fathers. They bet on this. Gen. Patton was a true American. Although not a founder, he was one to ride the river with.
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