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ne1
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Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 03:59 pm |
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http://start.localnet.com/article.php?article=D93N03KG3.html
The National Rifle Association is endorsing Republican presidential nominee John McCain despite differences with the Arizona senator on gun-show rules and campaign finance restrictions.
NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre and the chairman of the NRA's political action committee planned stops Thursday in Pennsylvania, Missouri, Colorado and Nevada to talk about the move.
LaPierre said the two agree on many issues important to the group.
"He's cast more than 60 votes in the Senate in support of the Second Amendment," LaPierre said.
The NRA's Political Victory Fund has spent more than $2.3 million opposing Democratic nominee Barack Obama. The chairman of the political action committee, Chris W. Cox, says its spending in the presidential race will grow to "eight figures" by Election Day. Besides ads, encouraging battleground-state gun owners to vote will be a key focus, he said.
The PAC was running an ad Thursday in USA Today accusing Obama of waffling on gun-rights issues and challenging his statements that he supports the right to bear arms. Obama has said he respects the Second Amendment but doesn't think it precludes "some commonsense gun laws so that we don't have kids being shot on the streets of cities like Chicago."
The NRA PAC's future spending will target Obama on gun issues and start publicizing the records of McCain and his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, LaPierre said. McCain's selection of Palin was a plus, LaPierre said.
"She's a hunter, she's a Second Amendment supporter and she's a tremendous asset to the ticket," he said.
Palin, an NRA member, received an A-plus rating from the group when she ran for governor in 2006. That compares to an NRA grade in the average range for McCain in his last Senate race. McCain isn't an NRA member.
Palin has been an NRA booster, particularly for its education and safety programs, during her career in government. As mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, she used $750 from her city campaign fund to upgrade her NRA membership.
The NRA doesn't always endorse presidential candidates. It has backed President Bush but declined to endorse Bob Dole in the 1996 race or President George H.W. Bush in 1992.
Obama has been endorsed by the American Hunters and Shooters Association, which calls itself a "mainstream group of hunters" that supports safe and responsible gun ownership.
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Johnny Stiletto
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Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 07:23 pm |
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Let me get this straight...
They endorsed McCain, Republican Candidate with a C+ rating with the NRA, an enemy of gun rights activists who blew off the NRA's importance in an interview last year over Bob Barr, Libertarian Candidate for President who has an A+ rating with the NRA and has been long time NRA board member.
They may of well just stuck a knife in Bob Barr's back. What a discrace.  I hope Barr resigns. I wish I had a membership to the NRA just so I can tell them where to stick it.
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mark edward marchiafava
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Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 07:27 pm |
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I'm soooooooo glad the NRA (negotiate rights away) has given McMadman their blessing. Now, finally, maybe, some of the sheeple will awaken.
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Prophet
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Posted: Fri Oct 10th, 2008 12:55 am |
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mark edward marchiafava wrote: I'm soooooooo glad the NRA (negotiate rights away) has given McMadman their blessing. Now, finally, maybe, some of the sheeple will awaken.
I actually have no idea whether you think the NRA supporting McCain is a good thing or not. 
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Posted: Fri Oct 10th, 2008 11:00 pm |
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It has been said that the NRA has become nothing more than 'controlled opposition'.
Why can't they get it right? Why couldn't they have had some guts and gotten behind Ron Paul when it mattered?
Or Bob Barr?
I think an organization with as much clout, membership, and money shouldn't be as weak and compromising on the 2d Amendment as the NRA is. They could be so much better...
Voting for the 'lesser of two evils'? Not for me anymore, thank you. I did that last election. With all the election fraud going on, I might as well vote for someone I like and trust (like Ron Paul) since my vote's probably going to be stolen anyway. Texas uses electronic voting machines with no paper trail.
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thorvaldr
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Posted: Fri Oct 10th, 2008 11:34 pm |
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To the sheeple and the MSM and the politicians the NRA is the voice of gun owners in the United States. If we can't ban together and vote Obama down our vote and our rights will no longer be respected.
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Posted: Sat Oct 11th, 2008 02:12 am |
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The NRA is nothing so is McCain / Mad Dog...
Their campaign is going down in flames anyway not even the NRA can save them...
Yep, the ruling on TrooperGate came out just a few minutes ago and the Govenor was found that she did indeed misuse her office...
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/10/alaska_legislative_probe_finds.html
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-troopergate11-2008oct11,0,192217.story?vote42844824=1
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Tomahawk
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Posted: Sat Oct 11th, 2008 03:22 am |
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longwatch
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Posted: Sat Oct 11th, 2008 04:24 am |
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My brother from a different mother I was thinking the same thing.
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Thundar
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Posted: Sat Oct 11th, 2008 04:44 am |
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Change the NRA to the NLOTEA
NLOTEA=National Lesser of Two Evils Association
To bash Obama for his bona-fide gun grabbing pedigree is appropriate.
To support a part time gun grabber because he isn't the full time gun grabber, when a true RKBA candidate is on the ballot in all 50 states, is the work of a truly Machiavellian entity.
I really try to keep the profanity to a minimum in this respectable forum but I gotta say...
NRA YOU SUCK
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Gene Beasley
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| I know there's strong feelings on this issue...every election. This country can weather a McCain presidency. I don't think we will be recognized after an Obama presidency. Fear? You bet. If nothing else, judicial appointments should be higher on our list of important items in deciding - not just the supremes, but look for one or two SCOTUS Justices in the next four years.
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Posted: Sat Oct 11th, 2008 05:23 am |
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Gene Beasley wrote: I know there's strong feelings on this issue...every election. This country can weather a McCain presidency. I don't think we will be recognized after an Obama presidency. Fear? You bet. If nothing else, judicial appointments should be higher on our list of important items in deciding - not just the supremes, but look for one or two SCOTUS Justices in the next four years.
Fear? From who, Obama? Sh$t, you got Sarah (I lie 4Jeasus) Palin and McCain who is a coward and you want those two idiots in the White House. After Bush and the right wing failed policies of the republican party has brought the world economy to a grinding halt. Eight years and nothing to show for it but failure. What you going to do now? Continue the rhetoric?
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Posted: Sat Oct 11th, 2008 05:25 am |
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Tomahawk wrote: Should be interesting to see which trolls disappear from the forum after the election.
Will you be the one?
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Posted: Sat Oct 11th, 2008 02:53 pm |
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I the Person wrote: It has been said that the NRA has become nothing more than 'controlled opposition'.
Why can't they get it right? Why couldn't they have had some guts and gotten behind Ron Paul when it mattered?
Or Bob Barr?
I think an organization with as much clout, membership, and money shouldn't be as weak and compromising on the 2d Amendment as the NRA is. They could be so much better...
Voting for the 'lesser of two evils'? Not for me anymore, thank you. I did that last election. With all the election fraud going on, I might as well vote for someone I like and trust (like Ron Paul) since my vote's probably going to be stolen anyway. Texas uses electronic voting machines with no paper trail.
I'm also glad I didn't spend money on an NRA membership to see this happen. McAmnesty is not the right person to be endorsing because of his RINO ways, and to see money pissed away on this is disheartening.
NRA is nothing more than The Brady Campaign in Reverse, just taking what they can get and all too happy to spend your membership fees to pay the exhorbitant salaries of the execs.
Have a great gun carryin' Kenpo day
Clyde
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Doug Huffman
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Posted: Sat Oct 11th, 2008 03:07 pm |
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longwatch wrote: My brother from a different mother I was thinking the same thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Sons_of_Different_Mothers
I thought that I was the only one that remembered that one.
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Renegade
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Posted: Sat Oct 11th, 2008 06:52 pm |
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I am going to ask for my money back from the NRA. I have a life membership but I wish to cancel it. The NRA is a waste.
http://www.gunowners.org/mccaintb.htm
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ne1
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Posted: Sat Oct 11th, 2008 09:48 pm |
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Principles for sale- cheap!
http://armedandsafe.blogspot.com/2008/10/principles-for-sale-cheap.html
We're being told that we need to forget about all that, and realize that an Obama presidency would be such a catastrophe for gun rights as to trump all the above objections to endorsing McCain.
My answer to that is that Obama is not getting my guns while I live--and McCain isn't getting my principles--at any price.
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Thundar
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Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 01:43 pm |
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Dukester wrote:
Fear? From who, Obama? Sh$t, you got Sarah (I lie 4Jeasus) Palin and McCain who is a coward and you want those two idiots in the White House. After Bush and the right wing failed policies of the republican party has brought the world economy to a grinding halt. Eight years and nothing to show for it but failure. What you going to do now? Continue the rhetoric?
Dukester,
You are such a blue neck.
I really don't have a dog in the fight as I will vote Libertarian.
The complete lack of heuristic logic in your post is amazing. George Bush may be a Republican, but his economic policy certainly has not been "right wing." It really has been the classic spend, spend, spend left wing economic policy.
To blame world economic failure on the Republican Party is silly. The Democrat party certainly is as much to blame in our tenuous situation as the Republican Party.
Your hate filled attacks really are quite inappropriate and offensive. John McCain is a part time gun grabber but I really think your ignorance shows when you call him a coward. His well documented performance in a place called the Hanoi Hilton proves your lie.
Intelligence is difficult to measure, but Obama is the one that has shown again and again that he cannot think on his feet.
Your vile anti-Christian comment shows a backward, ignorant and intolerant side which I think you will find is not welcome in this forum.
In short your intolerant, illogical and ignorant rant will probably not change any undecided minds here and, I imagine, make supporters of Obama who discuss issues with logic and reason cringe.
BARR 08
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Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 02:02 pm |
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I agree. Your "heuristic logic" mention led to an entertaining search of the 'net. I had never heard of Espresso or Minilog though I have done minimization by hand.
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Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 02:10 pm |
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Thundar wrote: Dukester wrote:
Fear? From who, Obama? Sh$t, you got Sarah (I lie 4Jeasus) Palin and McCain who is a coward and you want those two idiots in the White House. After Bush and the right wing failed policies of the republican party has brought the world economy to a grinding halt. Eight years and nothing to show for it but failure. What you going to do now? Continue the rhetoric?
Dukester,
You are such a blue neck.
I really don't have a dog in the fight as I will vote Libertarian.
The complete lack of heuristic logic in your post is amazing. George Bush may be a Republican, but his economic policy certainly has not been "right wing." It really has been the classic spend, spend, spend left wing economic policy.
To blame world economic failure on the Republican Party is silly. The Democrat party certainly is as much to blame in our tenuous situation as the Republican Party.
Your hate filled attacks really are quite inappropriate and offensive. John McCain is a part time gun grabber but I really think your ignorance shows when you call him a coward. His well documented performance in a place called the Hanoi Hilton proves your lie.
Intelligence is difficult to measure, but Obama is the one that has shown again and again that he cannot think on his feet.
Your vile anti-Christian comment shows a backward, ignorant and intolerant side which I think you will find is not welcome in this forum.
In short your intolerant, illogical and ignorant rant will probably not change any undecided minds here and, I imagine, make supporters of Obama who discuss issues with logic and reason cringe.
BARR 08
So this is what it takes to make you hillbillies come to yourr senses....the brink of dis*aster or another Great Depression.
We do have to thank GWB for one thing. He has driven the re p u gn ant party into political oblivion for a generation. Heckuva job Georgie.
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