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Braveheart_NJ
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Posted: Sun May 24th, 2009 02:33 pm |
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The problem with the gun debate is that the media and our corrupt, criminal politiians get to make their gun ban argument when the listener is safely inside their home behind locked doors, and with really nothing to fear. Its an easy sell for the mostly idiot public out there.
Gun groups have never understood that, and cannot compete with a corrupt media that just succeeded in electing a socialist president.
Here's an idea anyone can easily put into use.
What our pro-gun organization did here in NJ was to print small self-adhesive vinyl labels of about 1 in. tall by 4 in. wide. They were printed from waterproof bumper sticker material.
One a white background we hade the statement:
"Look Around You .......
.... The Nearest Cop Will Never Even Hear Your Screams"
First line in Blue, second in blood red, and in a horror style type font.
then in small print we had
"Citizens Committe For Self-Defense, and our address"
We printed thousands and tried to get NRA and state NRA organization to back the idea but they couldnt care less, as anyone familiar with NRA can understand. Too controversial they said.
We had members put them where the public would find them - All ALONE. Like in phone booths, taxi stands, dark and crime ridden areas, etc.
And it scared the living @#$% out of people. We got calls and letters from outraged public saying that they were very frightened by the message and that it was unfair. Politicians got to some of the larger gun groups leadership to find out who was behind it and criticized our actions.
One woman said she was making a phone call and was so terrified thinking she might be attacked that she had to hang up the call and leave it made her so nervous.
And that's what its all about. If you want to make an impact, make the public realize their vulnerability. The copy on the sticker is about the most frightening I could come up with and was very effective.
Give it a try. Its very cost effective.
Bill
NJ
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TatankaGap
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Posted: Sun May 24th, 2009 04:06 pm |
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Wow, what an effective 'guerrilla' marketing effort ~ well done - gives good food for thought to the other open carry activists such as myself - thanks ~ 
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Huck
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Posted: Sun May 24th, 2009 04:36 pm |
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And it scared the living @#$% out of people. We got calls and letters from outraged public saying that they were very frightened by the message and that it was unfair.
They'd be even more frightened by a attacker, who would'nt be "fair" either. Wake up sheeple!
Politicians got to some of the larger gun groups leadership to find out who was behind it and criticized our actions.
Of course they did. The sheeple might realize that the police and politicos cant protect them after all and demand the means to protect themselves.
I like it, it's a good idea.
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Posted: Sun May 24th, 2009 04:55 pm |
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Free speech? OK, but it ranks right up there with yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater.
I'm a bit surprised that no one has (yet) seen this as a terrorist act.
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400HP
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Posted: Sun May 24th, 2009 05:05 pm |
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2a4all wrote: Free speech? OK, but it ranks right up there with yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater.
I'm a bit surprised that no one has (yet) seen this as a terrorist act.
I don't think so. Although I would think somebody might try to accuse the group of either grafitti, or vandalism.
I like it. They are doing nothing but pointing to reality.
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insane.kangaroo
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Posted: Sun May 24th, 2009 05:23 pm |
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Braveheart_NJ
Wow, just wow. Spectacular advertising, I love it.
2a4all wrote: Free speech? OK, but it ranks right up there with yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater.
I'm a bit surprised that no one has (yet) seen this as a terrorist act.
Only if you tried this in Boston would they try to see it as a terrorist act.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Boston_Mooninite_Scare
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TatankaGap
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Posted: Sun May 24th, 2009 05:23 pm |
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Such a bumper sticker is free speech and protected by the 1st Amendment - for political expression -
Yelling fire in a movie theatre is different - that is a reckless use of speech known to cause panic and stampeding, immediate physical harm - there is no such threat when someone gets 'scared' by a bumper sticker - especially when it contains truthful info -
If antis or sheeple want to do something, they can print up their own bumper stickers and put them around - maybe something like:
"Don't pay attention to that other bumper sticker - it's real safe here in this lonely dark phone booth in the middle of no where - start praying now!"
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TatankaGap
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Posted: Sun May 24th, 2009 05:32 pm |
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insane.kangaroo wrote: Braveheart_NJ
Wow, just wow. Spectacular advertising, I love it.
2a4all wrote: Free speech? OK, but it ranks right up there with yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater.
I'm a bit surprised that no one has (yet) seen this as a terrorist act.
Only if you tried this in Boston would they try to see it as a terrorist act.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Boston_Mooninite_Scare
My favorite quotes from the 2007 Boston story:
"the police found that the device shared "some characteristics with improvised explosive devices", with the notable absence of actual explosives."
"As [their lawyer] Rich had advised them not to discuss the case, they spent the entire conference discussing and inviting press questions about hair styles of the 1970s, and ignoring any questions relating to the bomb scare."
"one 29-year-old blogger as writing "Repeat after me, authorities. L-E-D. Not I-E-D. Get it?"
" Congressman Stephen Lynch claimed that the Mooninites were part of a sleeper cell that also included SpongeBob Squarepants. "[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Boston_Mooninite_Scare#cite_note-24][/url]
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TFred
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Posted: Sun May 24th, 2009 06:04 pm |
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TatankaGap wrote: Such a bumper sticker is free speech and protected by the 1st Amendment - for political expression -
Yelling fire in a movie theatre is different - that is a reckless use of speech known to cause panic and stampeding, immediate physical harm - there is no such threat when someone gets 'scared' by a bumper sticker - especially when it contains truthful info -
If antis or sheeple want to do something, they can print up their own bumper stickers and put them around - maybe something like:
"Don't pay attention to that other bumper sticker - it's real safe here in this lonely dark phone booth in the middle of no where - start praying now!"
Actually, adding that second sticker next to the first would probably increase the effectiveness, as it does nothing to diminish the first, but does expose the anti-gunner mindset as a fraud.
TFred
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SouthernBoy
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Posted: Sun May 24th, 2009 08:07 pm |
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Try this one.
"In the final seconds of your life, just before your killer is about to dispatch you to that great eternal darkness, what would you rather have in your hand? A cell phone or a gun?"
I find this works in making anti's and similar types squirm a bit. More fun can be had by substituting "your child" for the first person subject.
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paramedic70002
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Posted: Mon May 25th, 2009 03:27 am |
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That sign just beats the pants off VCDL's "GUNS SAVE LIVES" bumper sticker.
Got a pic?
Or better yet, taking orders?
And the most important question: Did the campaign have the desired effect?
Last edited on Mon May 25th, 2009 03:28 am by paramedic70002
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insane.kangaroo
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Posted: Mon May 25th, 2009 03:32 am |
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paramedic70002 wrote:
Or better yet, taking orders?
I'd rather have the slogan as my morale arm patch for my coat.
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PT111
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Posted: Mon May 25th, 2009 11:57 am |
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| I can see how that sticker would scare the stuffings out of some people and take it as a threat although I do think it can be very effective. Rather than just the name and address of the committe a line about don't you need to be armed or something to point out that it is not a threat could be added. I know if I found one in a phone booth I would be looking around to see if there was an actual threat right then. Sometimes we can shock people too much.
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Posted: Mon May 25th, 2009 04:55 pm |
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Might it look something like this?
Or perhaps this:
or even this:
Last edited on Mon May 25th, 2009 05:57 pm by MetalChris
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TatankaGap
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Posted: Mon May 25th, 2009 05:33 pm |
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Stickering Campaigns work! It's also good to show the politicians that the NRA doesn't 'control' any gun rights advocates ~ it's not like they can just go deal with the NRA, make a political deal and that's that (like in the enviro movement where if NRDC or Sierra Club gets bought off, the activists on the ground get left in the lurch) -
So the more independent grassroots activism the better, IMHO - 
I had a good experience with a stickering campaign in NYC in the late 90s - we bought about 20,000 mylar stickers with our messaging and names/addys and handed them out to activists by the roll and told them to sticker away ~
People fanned out in small groups and stickered phones, phone booths, parking meters, subway stations, buses, you name it ~ and they made an impression - no one complained; no one was hassled - and in the end, some of the stickers ended up staying in place for months !
I highly encourage people to chip in on some large rolls of stickers and distribute them and maybe do an Open Carry stickering campaign in a place where the issue is really hot ~ like San Diego, Sacramento, Wisconsin,.... y'all know where the hotspots are - I leave that to others -
Should be fun 
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Armed
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Posted: Mon May 25th, 2009 07:21 pm |
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MetalChris
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Posted: Mon May 25th, 2009 11:39 pm |
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For those of you that are interested, the above images were created in MS Word using 20 pt "Calibri" font for the top line, and 30 pt "Chiller" font on the lower two lines. Just an issue of having a good printer and getting labels, and you're good to go.
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Sonora Rebel
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Posted: Tue May 26th, 2009 12:02 am |
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I've seen one here... 'My Honor Student Kid Also Carries a GUN!'
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Task Force 16
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Posted: Tue May 26th, 2009 02:54 am |
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SouthernBoy wrote: Try this one.
"In the final seconds of your life, just before your killer is about to dispatch you to that great eternal darkness, what would you rather have in your hand? A cell phone or a gun?"
I find this works in making anti's and similar types squirm a bit. More fun can be had by substituting "your child" for the first person subject.
I've actually posed a similar question to anti's, and they simply cannot make a choice between option "A" or "B". Instead, they always claim that the question is "irrelevant", "ignorant", or "stupid". Of course, they can never explain WHY the question is "irrevelant", "ingorant", or "stupid", only that,"it just is".
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KS_to_CA
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Posted: Tue May 26th, 2009 03:06 am |
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Braveheart_NJ wrote:
"Look Around You .......
.... The Nearest Cop Will Never Even Hear Your Screams"
First line in Blue, second in blood red, and in a horror style type font.
then in small print we had
"Citizens Committe For Self-Defense, and our address"
California, what do you think? Sounds like a good idea.
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