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ama-gi Member

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Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 04:23 am |
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/02/04/fbi.biometrics/index.html
The FBI already has 55 million sets of fingerprints on file. I wonder how many of those are CHP holders.
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BobCav Member

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Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 04:27 am |
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How Orwellian....  
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Thundar Member

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Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 04:39 am |
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| The glass citizen is coming soon.
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vrwmiller Member

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Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 01:08 pm |
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This is truly scary....
As I read the article, for some reason, I began thinking of the film "Minority Report". Out in public where you can be identified with scanners. A citizen's movements could be tracked with reckless disregard for that citizen's safety.
It is certainly still Hoover's FBI.
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DoubleR Activist Member

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Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 01:27 pm |
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Here's what was being tested in 2001...
Call It Super Bowl Face Scan I
02-02-01-WASHINGTON -- When tens of thousands of football fans packed into a Florida stadium for Super Bowl XXXV, they weren't merely watching the game: They were also being watched. Face-recognition software surreptitiously scanned everyone passing through turnstiles and flashed probable matches with the mugs of known criminals on the screens of a police control room.
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bohdi Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 02:59 pm |
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| lol, come to the super bowl, goto jail afterwards.
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deepdiver Activist Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 6th, 2008 10:44 pm |
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Our government is just out of control.
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AbNo Member

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Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2008 07:39 am |
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| And people wonder why I don't watch sports...
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Doug Huffman State Researcher
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UTOC-45-44 Member

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Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2008 09:18 pm |
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ama-gi wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/02/04/fbi.biometrics/index.html
The FBI already has 55 million sets of fingerprints on file. I wonder how many of those are CHP holders.
I think this could POSSIBLY be done to people that has a certain high level ciminal record, felons, maybe.
I think that they should let the LAW ABIDING Citizes/Residents be.
Don't like the idea, but IF compromise is needed.
TJ
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Doug Huffman State Researcher
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Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2008 09:22 pm |
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Or certain high level clearance.
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Comp-tech State Researcher

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Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2008 10:52 pm |
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Thundar wrote: The glass citizen is coming soon.
Even sooner than most people think.......
Passports now contain microchip.... http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1209/p12s01-stct.html
Social Security Administration utilizes RFID... http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techpolicy/2005-01-05-rfid-to-track-ssa_x.htm
Ford, GM, Honda and Toyota Spy on Motorists.... http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/12/29/132049.shtml
Big Brother Takes the Wheel to Improve Driver Safety.... http://www.ergoweb.com/news/detail.cfm?id=1040
Us clothes firm comes clean on RFID plans.... http://www.silicon.com/research/specialreports/protectingid/0,3800002220,39127337,00.htm
"Smart Dust" may soon be watching you.... http://www.king5.com/business/stories/NW_111904SRKsmartdustJK.728df42d.html
Deal forged to equip VeriChip with GPS.... http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42058
These are just "the tip of the iceberg"......
Last edited on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 10:53 pm by Comp-tech
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ama-gi Member

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Posted: Sun Feb 10th, 2008 08:58 pm |
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UTOC-45-44 wrote: ama-gi wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/02/04/fbi.biometrics/index.html
The FBI already has 55 million sets of fingerprints on file. I wonder how many of those are CHP holders.
I think this could POSSIBLY be done to people that has a certain high level ciminal record, felons, maybe.
I think that they should let the LAW ABIDING Citizes/Residents be.
Don't like the idea, but IF compromise is needed.
TJ
Apparently, people will never get the fact that what the force on their fellow citizens will someday be forced on them too. If you want to protect your own rights, protect the rights of your neighbor.
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Posted: Sun Feb 10th, 2008 09:21 pm |
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ama-gi wrote: Apparently, people will never get the fact that what the force on their fellow citizens will someday be forced on them too. If you want to protect your own rights, protect the rights of your neighbor.
Better spoken by this fellow:
He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
US patriot & political philosopher (1737 - 1809)
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LEO 229 Member

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Posted: Mon Feb 11th, 2008 01:07 pm |
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All this complaining about being tracked and monitored...
Have you noticed that the stuff containing RFID chips and such are optional items you are not required to carry with you as you walk-about?
How about this.... get some animal pelts and make some clothing and carry none of those items and you will be fine. You can be the anonymous citizen among the populace.
The day they require me to implant a chip into my body is the day I will join you. Till then I accept the items I may purchase may have RFID chips or tracking devices.
What the hell do I care?? The government has my address so if they really want to come get me... they can find me at work or at home.
The facial recognition is used to help find honest, law abiding citizens in past years who have since broken a few laws or escaped from prison.
The government has no need to know who attended the game... they only want to find the bad people and get them off the streets so the quality of life of those that are good can be enjoyed.
Why do paranoia and guns go hand in hand so often?? 
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Posted: Mon Feb 11th, 2008 01:58 pm |
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LEO 229 wrote: All this complaining about being tracked and monitored...
Have you noticed that the stuff containing RFID chips and such are optional items you are not required to carry with you as you walk-about?
How about this.... get some animal pelts and make some clothing and carry none of those items and you will be fine. You can be the anonymous citizen among the populace.
The day they require me to implant a chip into my body is the day I will join you. Till then I accept the items I may purchase may have RFID chips or tracking devices.
What the hell do I care?? The government has my address so if they really want to come get me... they can find me at work or at home.
The facial recognition is used to help find honest, law abiding citizens in past years who have since broken a few laws or escaped from prison.
The government has no need to know who attended the game... they only want to find the bad people and get them off the streets so the quality of life of those that are good can be enjoyed.
Why do paranoia and guns go hand in hand so often?? 
Come on now LEO229...paranoid, who's paranoid? You know they watch all 300 million of us 24/7. Cameras are everywhere!!!! Heck I hear that they may even start putting mini-cameras in toilet paper so we have no privacy!!!
The conspiracy is so great that your dentist may have implanted that micco-chip on your last visit. Everyone is the enemy.
I just had a horrible thought....does anyone think that the goverment might be forcing gun manufacturers to put a destructive device in our weapon that the government could use to destroy them at any time they choose?
Oh my so much to worry about!!!!!! No I'm not paranoid. (Just having a little fun folks)
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Posted: Mon Feb 11th, 2008 05:26 pm |
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LEO 229 wrote: The day they require me to implant a chip into my body is the day I will join you.
Your son or daughter will be like, "C'mon dad, what's the big deal? Do you have something to hide? It's being implanted so people can steal your identity and to help fight terrorism."
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Tomahawk Member

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Posted: Mon Feb 11th, 2008 09:46 pm |
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LEO 229 wrote: The day they require me to implant a chip into my body is the day I will join you.
QFT
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Posted: Mon Feb 11th, 2008 09:56 pm |
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Tomahawk wrote: LEO 229 wrote: The day they require me to implant a chip into my body is the day I will join you.
QFT
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LEO 229 Member

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Posted: Mon Feb 11th, 2008 10:27 pm |
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ama-gi wrote: LEO 229 wrote: The day they require me to implant a chip into my body is the day I will join you.
Your son or daughter will be like, "C'mon dad, what's the big deal? Do you have something to hide? It's being implanted so people can steal your identity and to help fight terrorism."
Not into altering my body.
No tattoos on my forearm and no RFID chips in my body.
I am going to have to pass.
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