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mtheknife
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Posted: Sat Nov 4th, 2006 02:32 am |
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I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I am supposed to transport my gun in upsate NY, Sydney and binghamton, specificly. Is it supposed to be in a locked container in the trunk and the ammo locked in the glove box? Thats How I plan travel while I am there. I am travelin gfrom NC and wanted to learn the laws thanks
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ilbob
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Posted: Sat Nov 4th, 2006 04:50 pm |
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mtheknife wrote: I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I am supposed to transport my gun in upsate NY, Sydney and binghamton, specificly. Is it supposed to be in a locked container in the trunk and the ammo locked in the glove box? Thats How I plan travel while I am there. I am travelin gfrom NC and wanted to learn the laws thanks
NY does not allow people without a pistol license to even have a pistol in their posssesion at all, absent some very narrow circumstances. And it is a felony.
There is a federal law that allows you to travel through the state with it unloaded and locked up, but who knows if NY's finest honor that law.
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XD Owner
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Posted: Sat Nov 4th, 2006 07:22 pm |
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IANAL, but feel free to see http://www.packing.org
http://www.packing.org/state/new_york/#statenote
Good luck (in other words, don't get caught doing something illegal.)
This is why we need National Recognition of Concealed Carry Permits, or ideally, a National Vermont- or Alaska-style Firearms law (no permit needed.)
NY will recognize your NC drivers license, but not a NC CHP. Stupid, stupid! 
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Posted: Sun Nov 5th, 2006 08:38 am |
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RE: Learning the laws
It is easier to just choose not to visit. If I had to travel through New York, I would be sure not to stop and spend any of my money there.
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nysarsenal
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Posted: Wed Nov 8th, 2006 02:47 am |
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Dont bring any firearms to NY State and especially New York City.
Obviously by now you have read the laws of NY. New York is extremely unfriendly to out of state gun owners, and to many New York residents who own guns.
Personally Id recommend visiting Pennsylvania, Colorado or Virginia.
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mtheknife
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Posted: Sat Nov 11th, 2006 05:05 am |
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Thanks for the tip I did not get caught doing anything illegal and I plan to visit va more often.
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michael
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Posted: Thu Feb 22nd, 2007 02:51 am |
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| I was born and raised on long island, the gun laws have been the same for years. I dont understand why even if you have a permit the still give you problems? I doesnt make any sense. I now live in florida and bought my first hand gun, a springfield xd 45 acp. I like having the freedom to own one and have no problems. Last edited on Thu Feb 22nd, 2007 02:53 am by michael
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bpranney
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mtheknife wrote: Thanks for the tip I did not get caught doing anything illegal and I plan to visit va more often.
And Virginia accepts alot of permits. I grew up in Western NY and moved to VA back in 2003. I tried many times to get a NY permit. Got annoyed with the process, so I moved to VA and started working for the NRA.
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dh21187
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Posted: Mon Apr 14th, 2008 12:00 am |
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As long as the gun is unloaded, in a locked box with ammunition seperate, it is not a problem. You just have to pass through the state in an uninterrupted trip, which has been argued to mean many things depending of where you happen to be when stopped. Each jurisdiction's courts have argued this differently and it is a crap shoot whether you get will get charged or not.
I used to pass through NJ on my way home after working in NYC as a police officer and I used to get grief sometimes from other cops as to why I was in NJ with a gun. Well, I'm on my way home dummy and I'm carrying. Either arrest me or send me on my way.
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dh21187
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Posted: Mon Apr 14th, 2008 12:04 am |
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bpranney wrote: mtheknife wrote: Thanks for the tip I did not get caught doing anything illegal and I plan to visit va more often.
And Virginia accepts alot of permits. I grew up in Western NY and moved to VA back in 2003. I tried many times to get a NY permit. Got annoyed with the process, so I moved to VA and started working for the NRA.
Your post sounds fishy as to why you couldn't get a permit, especially in Western, NY. You only get denied one if you can't pass the sniff test on the application and subsequent investigation process. They RARELY deny them without a good reason. I got my carry permit in NY back in 1989 at the age of 18.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16th, 2008 05:37 pm |
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I applied for and received a FL full-carry permit some years ago before HR 218 was enacted. It is reciprocal in 21 or 22 other state, so it was worth the expense at the time. I still haven't carried a gun with it yet in a qualifying state. Which reminds me, I have to check if it is still valid or not.
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Cody Jarrett
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 05:12 pm |
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| NYS Penal Law S265.20 provides an exemption for persons traveling into or through NYS when traveling to our from a sanctioned event and within 48 hours of the event in either direction. You must have proof of the event and your resident permit. The gun must be transposrted unloaded in a clear locked box. Under NYS PL S265.01 it is a misdemeanor to possess an UNLOADED handgun and under S265.03 it is a FELONY to possess a loaded hangun... without a license.
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Posted: Fri May 23rd, 2008 03:42 pm |
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If you are gonna (move) to NY, have a dealer at home send it to a local dealer in BGT... (or close by but in NYS) ..THEN, go to the Sheriff's office in the county that you plan to move to & get your permit... (may take up to a year and cost about $175.00)... If you are not going to move to NY, DON'T BRING IT!!! They will NOT let you go if they catch you with a handgun. You will be taken away in cuffs..
Once you do have a permit in nys, you can pak all you want.
Your smart to check first!
2 other states are like this (that I know of)
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emt3432001
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Posted: Fri May 23rd, 2008 03:48 pm |
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It's sick how some cops think its a game.
I had a trooper pull me over downstate and give me hell.... I was on duty at the time too... (little fella) Guess he was just wanting to be big and really cool.
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Cody Jarrett
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Posted: Sat May 24th, 2008 01:51 pm |
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| I was pulled over for speeding last year on the NYS Thruway. The trooper didn't ask about weapons in the car but wanted my registration and insurance card; which were in the glove box. I put my hands on the wheel and told him I have a licensed, registered, loaded handgun in there; what do you want me to do? He asked me to step out slowly which I did. he patted me around the waistband and asked for my permit. He asked me to have a seat in his car while he checked. He checked the gun in the glove box against those registered on my permit. He put the gun back in the glove box, gave me a speeding ticket and apologized for making me sit in his car. He sheepishly explained that with all the illegal guns he sees he just wanted to be safe. When my court date came he was there and requested the ADA reduce the ticket to an equipment violation. I paid a $50 equipment fine. We had a few laughs about the incident and parted on good terms.
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Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 03:01 am |
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| Here is the problem I have. I live in VA but my whole family is in the Buffalo, NY area. My concealed carry permit is valid in every state I drive through with the exception of NY. This includes OH where my wife is from. From reading everyone's posts on here, when I go home to see family I should just leave my weapon in VA? There is at least a week or two without it.
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Cody Jarrett
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Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 02:06 pm |
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| I would not bring the gun into NYS when you come to see your family. There are fed exemptions for someone traveling through the state when in transition only. Once you stop for the night the exemption no longer applies. Possession of a loaded handgun without a license in NYS is a C felony.
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