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glockaholic
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 02:27 pm |
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My sincere apologies if this has already been covered, but this thread is just waaaaay too long to parse through to find an answer to the specific question I have...
Is it legal to open carry while hiking in Uwharrie? I may be going down that way with some friends next month and I understand that concealed carry in National Forests is fine, but what about OC? I'm assuming it's fine as well but would love to hear someone who has actually done it confirm it.
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Juggernaut
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 02:29 pm |
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No OC for Uwharrie, except at the range. It falls under the NC Game Land regulations which limit OC to a .22 cal.
http://www.ncwildlife.org/Regs/2009_10/2009_10_RegsDigest.pdf
http://www.ncwildlife.org/Regs/2009_10/2009_10_Gamelands.pdf
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glockaholic
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 02:37 pm |
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| Well that's lame. Oh well. CC is still fine, right?
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Juggernaut
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 02:38 pm |
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| I'm still confused on that myself. Someone else will have to chime in on that one and please correct me if I'm wrong about OC on gamelands too. Last edited on Fri Oct 30th, 2009 02:39 pm by Juggernaut
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 02:58 pm |
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CC is not ok. Not until February when the new law goes into effect.
Until then, the only place you can carry something larger than a .22, concealed or otherwise, is at the range or in the campiing areas.
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 03:06 pm |
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| Uwharrie is a National Forest though, right? That's different from a National Park which is where carry of any kind has been restricted, that is until the new law goes into effect in Feb. That's my understanding at least.
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Juggernaut
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 03:10 pm |
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fenderfreek wrote: CC is not ok. Not until February when the new law goes into effect.
Until then, the only place you can carry something larger than a .22, concealed or otherwise, is at the range or in the campiing areas.
What about when camping off the ORV trail system...say at the top of Daniel if your familiar with the trails? Can we conceal/OC? I hardly ever use the pay camping sites, which I'm assuming you are talking about.
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 03:27 pm |
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The Reg's say "camping areas" with no mention of paid or primitive, so the logical assumption is all of them. I always use the primitive camping areas and carry there. Rangers have never had a problem.
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Juggernaut
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 04:15 pm |
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Thanks FF.
15A NCAC 10D .0102 GENERAL REGULATIONS REGARDING USE
(a) Trespass. Entry on game lands for purposes other than hunting, trapping or fishing shall be as authorized by the landowner and there shall be no removal of any plants or parts thereof, or other materials, without the written authorization of the landowner. The Wildlife Resources Commission has identified the following areas on game lands that have additional restrictions on entry or usage:
(1) Archery Zone. On portions of game lands posted as "Archery Zones" hunting is limited to bow and arrow hunting and falconry only. On these areas, deer of either sex may be taken on all open days of any applicable deer season.
(2) Safety Zone. On portions of game lands posted as "Safety Zones" hunting is prohibited. No person shall hunt or discharge a firearm or bow and arrow within, into, or across a posted safety zone on any game land. Falconry is exempt from this provision.
(3) Restricted Firearms Zone. On portions of game lands posted as "Restricted Firearms Zones" the use of centerfire rifles is prohibited.
(4) Restricted Zone. Portions of game lands posted as "Restricted Zones" are closed to all use by the general public, and entry upon such an area for any purpose is prohibited without first having obtained specific written approval of such entry or use from an authorized agent of the Wildlife Resources Commission. Entry shall be authorized only when such entry will not compromise the primary purpose for establishing the Restricted Zone and the person or persons requesting entry can demonstrate a valid need or such person is a contractor or agent of the Commission conducting official business. "Valid need" includes issues of access to private property, scientific investigations, surveys, or other access to conduct activities in the public interest.
(5) Temporary Restricted Zone. Portions of game lands posted as "Temporary Restricted Zones" are closed to all use by the general public, and entry upon such an area for any purpose is prohibited without first having obtained specific written approval of such entry or use from an authorized agent of the Wildlife Resources Commission. An area of a game land shall be declared a Temporary Restricted Zone when there is a danger to the health or welfare of the public due to topographical features or activities occurring on the area.
(6) Establishment of Archery, Restricted Firearms, and Restricted Zones. The Commission shall conduct a public input meeting in the area where the game land is located before establishing any archery, restricted firearms or restricted zone. After the input meeting the public comments shall be presented to an official Commission meeting for final determination.
(7) Scouting-only Zone. On portions of the game lands posted as "Scouting-only Zones" the discharge of firearms or bow and arrow is prohibited.
(b) Littering. No person shall deposit any litter, trash, garbage, or other refuse at any place on any game land except in receptacles provided for disposal of such refuse at designated camping and target‑shooting areas. No garbage dumps or sanitary landfills shall be established on any game land by any person, firm, corporation, county or municipality, except as permitted by the landowner.
(c) Possession of Hunting Devices. It is unlawful to possess a firearm or bow and arrow on a game land at any time except during the open hunting seasons or hunting days for game birds or game animals, other than fox, unless the device is cased or not immediately available for use, provided that such devices may be possessed and used by persons participating in field trials on field trial areas and on target shooting areas designated by the landowner, and possessed in designated camping areas for defense of persons and property; and provided further that .22 caliber pistols with barrels not greater than seven and one‑half inches in length and shooting only short, long, or long rifle ammunition may be carried as side arms on game lands at any time other than by hunters during the special bow and arrow and muzzle‑loading firearms deer hunting seasons and by individuals training dogs during closed season without field trial authorization. This Rule shall not prevent possession or use of a bow and arrow as a licensed special fishing device in those waters where such use is authorized. Furthermore, only shotguns with any size shot and archery equipment as defined in 15A NCAC 10B .0116 may be possessed during the big game season for turkey. No person shall hunt with or have in possession any shotgun shell containing lead or toxic shot while hunting on any posted waterfowl impoundment on any game land, or while hunting waterfowl on Butner‑Falls of Neuse Game Land or New Hope Game Land, except shotgun shells containing lead buckshot may be used while deer hunting.
http://ncrules.state.nc.us/ncac/title%2015a%20-%20environment%20and%20natural%20resources/chapter%2010%20-%20wildlife%20resources%20and%20water%20safety/subchapter%20d/subchapter%20d%20rules.doc
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Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 10:29 pm |
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The ARFCOM (ar15.com) guys are having a Carolina's HTF shoot the weekend of November 21-22 @ Uwharrie's Flintlock Valley shooting range. It'd be nice to make it an ARFCOM & OCDO event! 
There will be guys camping out just around the corner from the range, just past the ORV trail entrance. We usually fire up a grill at the range to keep things going all day and BS around a fire at the camp site/base camp, dubbed "camp ARFCOM," into the night.
If anyone is hesitant about not knowing everyone on ARFCOM, I recently went for my first time and had a blast. It's great to get out, meet some of the guys, and put faces to screen names. I hope a lot of you OCDO guys can make it!
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 06:52 pm |
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Thanks Jerz, from what I hear everyone over there are stand up guys, so if people could make it up there that would be great. I'll see how my plans look a little closer to the date.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33652059
.40 I hope you are armed on the job. happy birthday by the way guy.
The crime has crawled all the way down central, down lawyers... got to love urban sprawl.
Let me know if your still on for monday, it looks good right now for me to go. I may be a little late... but oh well.
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 06:52 pm |
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| dbl post, sorry. Last edited on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 06:53 pm by Myrighttocarry
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.40 Cal
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 07:25 pm |
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Still going and always packin'! Thanks for the B-day wish. Gave myself a little something that needs a workout.
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Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2009 03:23 am |
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I'll probably be there around 2:30, bringing the norm.
Should i pick up any ammo for the new addition? i'll prob stop by the wal world on the way and get some targets. I still got a few stick ons.
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.40 Cal
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Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2009 01:02 pm |
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| Don't think we need anything. C-ya there!
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.40 Cal
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 01:33 am |
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Thanks for coming out, MRTC! Sandie really appreciated you letting her try your combat tupperware. 
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 02:55 am |
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| LOL. Shes already a better shooter than me. She also has fine taste in guns, I'd check your case for your EMP, she might have brought it home with her.
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