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cupsz71
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 Posted: Fri Oct 10th, 2008 01:50 am
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I'm a CC holder, and until this summer hadn't really looked into the ND laws concerning OC'n cause I never considered it.  CC'n worked for me and my wife.

I don't hunt.  Never have. (friends and family do)  Just blasted gophers till I got interested in handguns, joined a shooting club.. and the rest is history. 

My problem/question:

But the wifey & I bought a new Arctic Cat TRV 650 (atv) to ride with friends this summer. 

We often ride the 18 miles out to their farm via dirt rds/ditches/prairie trails and I discovered that you can't really CC when the wind is whipp'n at you, and suddenly I realized that EVERYBODY (if looking) could see my XD on my hip since I use an OWB holster. 

hmmmm...... now I'm OC'n when I'm "programmed" to CC.

I've googled ND law concering OC and all it does is direct me to CC law.
:banghead:
Now I have no problem "suiting-up" with my SERPA leg harness holster (my shooting range set-up + better retention) and my larger Beretta 92FS for ATV'n, but am I LEGAL to do so?

I'm technically out in public and NOT hunting.  In ND if you don't have a CC permit, any weapon you have with you must be displayed & UNLOADED for the law to see.  My CC  says I MUST conceal my loaded weapon..... but riding makes it almost impossible, and no........ the gun is not staying at home. (figured I mention that)

My current choice is to pocket holster my smaller BERSA T380 w/extra mag and put them in the storage cubby on the TRV.  This works well, but I'm exploring options - if any.


Now I'd originally posted this question on the OC Carry questions.......with no response. soI've modified a bit and posted here.

I was told today personally that OC in ND is OK w/a CC permit....and your not hunting.... as long as the gun (if an automatic) is no shorter than 4" and you were on private property (yours) or permission from the owner... or in designated rural area.

If you DON'T have a CCP then OC'n is really a grey area.  Stuff like revolver only w/lead bullets was the only allowance and only in rural areas.

Yep for the most part the simpler choice for right now is to put my pistol(s) in the storage cubby, then re-conceal after trailering up.

If anybody can shed some light on this or steer me in the right direction to get the answer(s) I'm searching for would be appreciated.

Thanks.

 

Jared
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 Posted: Tue Oct 14th, 2008 06:42 pm
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North Dakota issued you a license to carry firearms. It's your choice to conceal it or to keep it in plain sight.

North Dakota is not like Texas where you are required to conceal your handgun.

Catherine
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 Posted: Mon Mar 30th, 2009 09:16 am
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So you NEED a permit to open carry period in ND?

What if you don't want to CC and ONLY want to OC - you still need a permit?

Thanks.

Catherine

lockman
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 Posted: Mon Mar 30th, 2009 11:22 pm
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Catherine wrote: So you NEED a permit to open carry period in ND? NO - corrected What if you don't want to CC and ONLY want to OC - you still need a permit? Maybe, No of foot, YES in a vehicle - corrected

Thanks.

Catherine



See link of maps: http://www.opencarry.org/maps.html

 

Last edited on Wed Apr 1st, 2009 04:14 pm by lockman

Catherine
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 Posted: Tue Mar 31st, 2009 12:04 am
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Thank you!

Catherine

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 Posted: Tue Mar 31st, 2009 12:11 am
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lockman wrote: Catherine wrote: So you NEED a permit to open carry period in ND? YES

What if you don't want to CC and ONLY want to OC - you still need a permit? YES

Thanks.

Catherine


See link of maps: http://www.opencarry.org/maps.html

Where does it say that?  You need a permit to carry open in a car, but nothing I see from your reference refers to on foot.

lockman
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 Posted: Wed Apr 1st, 2009 04:15 pm
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You are correct! Now if I would have only gone to the link and read it myself first!

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 Posted: Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 05:51 am
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OC is legal ON FOOT with NO CCW permit.

OC is NOT legal IN A VEHICLE with NO CCW permit.

Got it!  Thanks again.

Catherine


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