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Bustelo5%
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 04:14 am |
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Ok I am super confused on this one,I went to Walmart in Tallmadge/Brimfield and there is a wood forest bank in the walmart for those who do not frequent there.
Above the counter there was a no deadly weapons sign.
Can you OC in a bank even if there is a sign because of preemtion?
Another question in Ravenna,oh which is in Portage County there is county clothing donations place pretty cool,its a thift store provided for free by the residents for the residents of that county.
There was a no deadly weapons sign also,can the county say you cannot carry gun in there?
3/I guess what the question is other than state blds and courts can you OC even if there is a deadly weapons sign in the state of ohio?
Bring the Comments even if my questions seem nieve its to shed light for others who are not as seasoned.As Iron Sharpens Iron
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Bustelo5%
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 05:34 am |
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2923.1212 Signage prohibiting concealed handguns. (A) The following persons, boards, and entities, or designees, shall post in the following locations a sign that contains a statement in substantially the following form: “Unless otherwise authorized by law, pursuant to the Ohio Revised Code, no person shall knowingly possess, have under the person’s control, convey, or attempt to convey a deadly weapon or dangerous ordnance onto these premises.” :
(1) The director of public safety or the person or board charged with the erection, maintenance, or repair of police stations, municipal jails, and the municipal courthouse and courtrooms in a conspicuous location at all police stations, municipal jails, and municipal courthouses and courtrooms;
(2) The sheriff or sheriff’s designee who has charge of the sheriff’s office in a conspicuous location in that office;
(3) The superintendent of the state highway patrol or the superintendent’s designee in a conspicuous location at all state highway patrol stations;
(4) Each sheriff, chief of police, or person in charge of every county, multicounty, municipal, municipal-county, or multicounty-municipal jail or workhouse, community-based correctional facility, halfway house, alternative residential facility, or other local or state correctional institution or detention facility within the state, or that person’s designee, in a conspicuous location at that facility under that person’s charge;
(5) The board of trustees of a regional airport authority, chief administrative officer of an airport facility, or other person in charge of an airport facility in a conspicuous location at each airport facility under that person’s control;
(6) The officer or officer’s designee who has charge of a courthouse or the building or structure in which a courtroom is located in a conspicuous location in that building or structure;
(7) The superintendent of the bureau of criminal identification and investigation or the superintendent’s designee in a conspicuous location in all premises controlled by that bureau;
(8) The owner, administrator, or operator of a child day-care center, a type A family day-care home, a type B family day-care home, or a type C family day-care home;
(9) The officer of this state or of a political subdivision of this state, or the officer’s designee, who has charge of a building that is a government facility of this state or the political subdivision of this state, as defined in section 2923.126 of the Revised Code, and that is not a building that is used primarily as a shelter, restroom, parking facility for motor vehicles, or rest facility and is not a courthouse or other building or structure in which a courtroom is located that is subject to division (B)(3) of that section.
(B) The following boards, bodies, and persons, or designees, shall post in the following locations a sign that contains a statement in substantially the following form: “Unless otherwise authorized by law, pursuant to Ohio Revised Code section 2923.122, no person shall knowingly possess, have under the person’s control, convey, or attempt to convey a deadly weapon or dangerous ordnance into a school safety zone.” :
(1) A board of education of a city, local, exempted village, or joint vocational school district or that board’s designee in a conspicuous location in each building and on each parcel of real property owned or controlled by the board;
(2) A governing body of a school for which the state board of education prescribes minimum standards under section 3301.07 of the Revised Code or that body’s designee in a conspicuous location in each building and on each parcel of real property owned or controlled by the school;
(3) The principal or chief administrative officer of a nonpublic school in a conspicuous location on property owned or controlled by that nonpublic school.
Effective Date: 04-08-2004; 2008 SB184 09-09-2008
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RT48
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Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 05:45 pm |
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State law allows private property owners to post "no guns" signs. This has nothing to do with preemption. Preemption is about preventing local governments from having their firearms laws.
As to government buildings, it depends on what type it is. There are specific sections of ORC preventing ALL guns from courthouses and school property, for example.
Other government buildings are covered by the CCW section which says "no concealed handguns" and doesn't specifically prevent open carry.
So it depends on what type of building it is and which section of ORC covers it.
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Bustelo5%
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Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 07:50 pm |
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So there can be two banks next to eachother,one has sign that says that you cannot carry and the bank can have no signs and you can carry in there.
I went to the title bureau and they had a anti CC sign,but it also prevented any fire arms.
I hate assuming but should we assume that unless its a complete anti-firearms and only CC that we can OC in that said place?
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color of law
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Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 05:39 am |
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State Law clearly states the places where no firearms (OC or CC) my be carried, they are.
A Courthouse or building in which a courthouse is located.
A jail or detention facility
A school or a school safety zone(unless certain conditions are met)
A place for which liquor is being dispensed under a class D license
A State run mental facility.
You can open carry in a police station if they don't have a jail. A city hall if they don't have a mayor's court.
You need to start doing your own "more in depth" research.
Also, where are you located in Ohio?????
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color of law
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Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 05:40 am |
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Last edited on Sat Jun 20th, 2009 05:41 am by color of law
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Bustelo5%
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Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 06:18 am |
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I live in kent off campus a block from all the bars,but I am in akron alot.
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Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 04:56 am |
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color of law wrote: State Law clearly states the places where no firearms (OC or CC) my be carried, they are.
A Courthouse or building in which a courthouse is located.
A jail or detention facility
A school or a school safety zone(unless certain conditions are met)
A place for which liquor is being dispensed under a class D license
A State run mental facility.
Sorry if this has been discussed a bunch and I just haven't searched enough, but I would like to know, as an out of state concealed pistol license holder, is this all I have to worry about for OCing and CCing in ohio?
I am in Ohio for various reasons every now and again, and now that I have my license it would be nice to know all the laws.
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Bustelo5%
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Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 07:09 am |
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I must ask what sort of problems do you get from where you live?
I wwould def go out to say even in the most Anti city OC or CC is defintly not a big as much as it would be in Hawaii where im originally from. I will defintly say for sure when you have your CCW in Ohio you will have less police harrassment. But in less populated areas where people dont exersize their rights execpt to hunt you may get random noobbness from antis or leos.But this is one of the most self defensive state ive been to.
Akron/Kent/Stow is a great place to OC for the record.
Also I would look up transport with your CCW and see if your is acceptable so you dont have to have ur gun unloaded during transport. I dont know what CCWs are unacceptable but some are.
Transport is pretty simple here.Closed container,unloaded,not reachable while driving
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Bustelo5%
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Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 07:15 am |
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And there are banks here that allow CC I am unsure which ones,greatest thing is that there is premtion so you dont have to guess its the same all over the state
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color of law
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Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 04:07 pm |
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Michigander wrote: color of law wrote: State Law clearly states the places where no firearms (OC or CC) my be carried, they are.
A Courthouse or building in which a courthouse is located.
A jail or detention facility
A school or a school safety zone(unless certain conditions are met)
A place for which liquor is being dispensed under a class D license
A State run mental facility.
Sorry if this has been discussed a bunch and I just haven't searched enough, but I would like to know, as an out of state concealed pistol license holder, is this all I have to worry about for OCing and CCing in ohio?
I am in Ohio for various reasons every now and again, and now that I have my license it would be nice to know all the laws.
I am referring to absolute "No Carry" in any manor. I would get the Ohio AG handbook.
http://www.ag.state.oh.us/le/prevention/pubs/2009_ccw_book.pdf
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