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ocholik
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 Posted: Wed Mar 25th, 2009 12:46 am
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RE: Open Carry‏ From: Glen B. Smithson (glensmithson@okhouse.gov)
Sent: Tue 3/24/09 10:43 AM
To: 'JAMES OCHOLIK' (ocholik@msn.com)

 Why is it so important to you to carry a firearm in the open.  Is it so you can intimidate people or will it just make you feel bigger.  It is very intimidating to people to walk down the sidewalk and see people walking the streets with two gun rigs tied to their legs.  I am a Vietnam vet, a 27 year state trooper and have taught concealed carry classes since their beginning in 1996.  As a state legislator I have passed many guns laws making our concealed laws among the best in the nation.  If you give an inch people want more, my fear is that if we get to free wit our law it will jeopardize our whole law and we will eventionally have to revoke the whole thing.  When is enough, enough???????

Who voted for him ?????





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ocholik
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 Posted: Wed Mar 25th, 2009 03:08 am
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This is who i wrote too.......

wallace.collins@okhouse.gov;
chuck.hoskin@okhouse.gov;
stevemartin@okhouse.gov;
mark.mccullough@okhouse.gov
ason.murphey@okhouse.gov;
randy.mcdaniel@okhouse.gov;
leslie.osborn@okhouse.gov;
mike.ritze@okhouse.gov;
paulroan@okhouse.gov;
glensmithson@okhouse.gov;
 todd.thomsen@okhouse.gov;
suetibbs@okhouse.gov

This is what I sent....

Dear Representative, 
 
I am asking that you urge Public Safety Committee Chair Sue Tibbs to 
hold a hearing on HB 1414, and move the bill out of committee. 
 
This right to "open carry" of firearms for self-defense is already 
recognized in many states, including, ironically, anti-gun states like 
Wisconsin. The Badger State doesn't recognize concealed carry permits 
at all, and yet, they still protect the right of their citizens to carry 
firearms openly. 
 
I believe it is time for Oklahoma to catch up. So please do everything 
in your power to move HB 1414 to the floor of the House. 
 
Sincerely,

James Ocholik

neverjeg
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 Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 05:14 pm
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When is enough enough?  That would be when rights are no longer infringed!  :celebrate

 

SlackwareRobert
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 Posted: Tue Apr 28th, 2009 08:03 pm
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So it was OK for him to open carry for 27 years?
I hope you thanked him for his hartfelt appology for 27 years of threats and
intimidation of the fine people of Oklahoma.

But the follow up question is....
Why are you so afraid to have an honest open debate of such an important
matter dealing with basic rights, that you resort to burrying it in committee?

When is enough?  When ALL persons (little pc there) are equal.

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 Posted: Sun May 24th, 2009 07:41 pm
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ocholik wrote: RE: Open Carry‏ From: Glen B. Smithson (glensmithson@okhouse.gov)
Sent: Tue 3/24/09 10:43 AM
To: 'JAMES OCHOLIK' (ocholik@msn.com)

 Why is it so important to you to carry a firearm in the open.  Is it so you can intimidate people or will it just make you feel bigger.  It is very intimidating to people to walk down the sidewalk and see people walking the streets with two gun rigs tied to their legs.  I am a Vietnam vet, a 27 year state trooper and have taught concealed carry classes since their beginning in 1996.  As a state legislator I have passed many guns laws making our concealed laws among the best in the nation.  If you give an inch people want more, my fear is that if we get to free wit our law it will jeopardize our whole law and we will eventionally have to revoke the whole thing.  When is enough, enough???????

Who voted for him ?????






Enough will end come next election when your voted out of office. Hows that for enough is enough.

Don Barnett
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 Posted: Wed Jun 3rd, 2009 09:10 pm
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His reply is deplorable.  He works for YOU...NOT visa versa.  When these "idiots" get elected, they somehow think that they are God...and can boss everybody around.  I am from Virginia...and when I saw this...I wanted to throw up.

justgreg
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 Posted: Tue Aug 18th, 2009 07:29 pm
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I just sent this to my rep:


Doctor Renegar!

Thanks much for your continued public service, we do appreciate you, and I thought in particular helping Chris Ford get an exception back when he was Sheriff was a super smart move, and we in Latimer County appreciate it.

I'm contacting you about HB1414, the "Open Carry" law.

I urge you to support this law, as there are many situations where open carry is appropriate, prudent and smart.

Carrying unloaded firearms produces its own risks!

Normal day-to-day situations including handling cash on the way to a bank puts normal people including business owners (but sometimes their employees!) in a situation where they are performing the duties of an unpaid, untrained security guard.

Open, visible, and clear carry is a deterence factor.

We appreciate your service, and we all know you have a lot on your plate!

G.

Gregory XXXXXXX
Wilburton

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 Posted: Tue Aug 18th, 2009 08:20 pm
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FIVE MINUTES LATER...Doctor Renegar Replied:

"I will be in full support of hb1414! I just try to do what's right, am glad you agree!"

Now that's service!

G.

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 Posted: Thu Aug 20th, 2009 07:07 pm
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As an Oklahoma resident gun-owner and carrier, as well as the son of a late Law Enforcement Officer, I absolutely had to join this thread.

Number one: I have to say that in the later years of my father's career, he was increasingly paranoid.  My father had an EXEMPLARY career.  Decorated, and promoted, my dad was the model cop. 20+ years of day-in-day-out with criminals will skew your view on society as a whole....It can't HELP but mold your CONTEMPORARY life.  Unfortunately, this bleeds into the law-abiding population.   Anyone KNOW an OHP trooper? 

I worked with the wife of an OHP trooper for 5 years....I met her husband once.  I was in my scrub uniform, with visible ID, coming out of a surgical unit...I asked "oh, HEY, are you..." the husband of "XY"... He looked me up and down, and said, "NO. that's not me." I'm a clean-cut, Army veteran working in a hospital with ID....He walked away to a different elevator.  I UNDERSTAND from first-hand knowledge why the paranoia exists....The bad guys like revenge, as has happened from time to time to  almost EVERY LEO....Ticket a guy, see him at Olive Garden, hilarity ensues, right?

My point is, unless a UNIVERSALLY UNDERSTOOD, TOTALLY well-worded, and comprehensive legislation is passed in Oklahoma, the good-guys are going to be CONTINUALLY lumped in with BAD guys where firearms and the 2nd Ammendment are concerned....

My affinity, and allegiance, BY OATH is to my Family, my God, my Constitution/NATION and my STATE. In that particular order.  The citizens of EVERY state should be able to exercise the rights ACKNOWLEDGED them, constitutionally; not to mention the PROTECTIONS afforded by our STATE laws and taxed REVENUE! RIGHTS are NOT given, nor are they ALLOWED or debated.  "RIGHTS" ARE, by definition, a FOREGONE CONCLUSION!!!!!! And I rest on this.

 


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